OWGR Wk 31 RC Standings for US and Euro

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Congratz To Rory for reclaiming the #1 spot. Very well done by the Ulsterman.  Sergio gets to #3, his highest ranking since he broke up with Greg Norman's daughter.

And welcome back to the winners circle for Geoff Ogilvy.  He should get up to around #125 and an invite to the PGA this week

1 Rory McIlroy 9.408
2 Adam Scott 9.237
3 Sergio Garcia 7.780
4 Henrik Stenson 7.669
5 Justin Rose 7.460
6 Matt Kuchar 6.771
7 Bubba Watson 6.668
8 Jim Furyk 6.477
9 Jason Day 6.192
10 Tiger Woods 5.908
11 Jordan Spieth 5.686
12 Martin Kaymer 5.378
13 Phil Mickelson 5.145
14 Zach Johnson 5.016
15 Graeme McDowell 4.905
16 Hideki Matsuyama 4.881
17 Dustin Johnson 4.833
18 Rickie Fowler 4.788
19 Charl Schwartzel 4.171
20 Jimmy Walker 4.155
21 Keegan Bradley 4.146
22 Victor Dubuisson 3.880
23 Steve Stricker 3.879
24 Thomas Bjorn 3.841
25 Patrick Reed 3.763
26 Luke Donald 3.741
27 Jason Dufner 3.725
28 Miguel A Jimenez 3.479
29 Ian Poulter 3.460
30 Webb Simpson 3.404
31 Stephen Gallacher 3.350
32 Jamie Donaldson 3.332
33 Thongchai Jaidee 3.237
34 Lee Westwood 3.197
35 Brandt Snedeker 3.178
36 Kevin Na 3.152
37 Ryan Moore 3.094
38 Bill Haas 3.085
39 Marc Leishman 3.060
40 Graham Delaet 3.042
41 Brendon Todd 2.990
42 Kevin Streelman 2.917
43 Francesco Molinari 2.852
44 Chris Kirk 2.751
45 Hunter Mahan 2.732
46 Jonas Blixt 2.624
47 Joost Luiten 2.594
48 Gary Woodland 2.574
49 Harris English 2.567
50 Matt Every 2.557
51 Matt Jones 2.505
52 Kevin Stadler 2.504
53 Angel Cabrera 2.472
54 Mikko Ilonen 2.430
55 John Senden 2.394
56 Louis Oosthuizen 2.370
57 Billy Horschel 2.334
58 Shane Lowry 2.259
59 Russell Henley 2.244
60 Ernie Els 2.203
61 J.B. Holmes 2.172
62 Koumei Oda 2.170
63 Ryan Palmer 2.158
64 Pablo Larrazabal 2.129
65 Gonzalo Fdez-Castano 2.106
66 Brian Harman 2.045
67 Matteo Manassero 2.031
68 Charley Hoffman 2.021
69 George Coetzee 1.988
70 Bernd Wiesberger 1.962
71 Richard Sterne 1.945
72 K.J. Choi 1.908
73 Rafael Cabrera Bello 1.862
74 Erik Compton 1.834
75 Brooks Koepka 1.819
76 Tim Clark 1.816
77 Ben Martin 1.797
78 Nick Watney 1.791
79 Fredrik Jacobson 1.768
80 Charles Howell-III 1.762
81 Ryo Ishikawa 1.752
82 George McNeill 1.740
83 Brendon de Jonge 1.735
84 Chris Stroud 1.731
85 Paul Casey 1.706
86 Boo Weekley 1.675
87 Anirban Lahiri 1.659
88 Chesson Hadley 1.649
89 Scott Stallings 1.645
90 Chris Wood 1.564
91 Branden Grace 1.559
92 Kim Hyung-sung 1.539
93 Fabrizio Zanotti 1.538
94 David Hearn 1.525
95 Tommy Fleetwood 1.523
96 Ross Fisher 1.511
97 Edoardo Molinari 1.507
98 Thorbjorn Olesen 1.502
99 Danny Willett 1.499
100 Daniel Summerhays 1.497
101 Noh Seung-yul 1.490
102 Russell Knox 1.482
103 Marc Warren 1.477


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The Euro RC World Point standings should look like this

1 Rory McIlroy 434
2 Sergio GARCIA 363
3 Henrik STENSON 352
4 Justin ROSE 279
5 Martin KAYMER 247
6 Thomas BJÖRN 200
7 Victor DUBUISSON 190
8 Graeme MCDOWELL 167.0
9 Jamie DONALDSON 165.0
10 Luke DONALD 164.3
11 Stephen GALLACHER 156.5
12 Ian POULTER 149.1
13 Miguel Angel JIMÉNEZ 142.9
14 Francesco MOLINARI 136.6
15 Joost LUITEN 124.9
16 Lee WESTWOOD 111.7
17 Pablo LARRAZÁBAL 106
18 Gonzalo FDEZ-CASTAÑO 103
19 Shane LOWRY 93
20 Rafa CABRERA-BELLO 91

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I will post the US RC Standings as soon as they update and the Euro Money standings when available

darren clarke and mcginley had a falling out over the battle to get ryder cup captaincy apparently. Doubt DC will be a vc

pedro wrote:Quote of the day:
Tom Watson on Tiger: "I can't assess his medical condition and I honestly can't assess how he's playing. It really is going to be having to come from information from Tiger himself."

So its up to Tiger to pick himself, that's hilarious.

GPB that's an interesting theory about Nike pulling the strings, I wonder how much sway they really hold over Woods...

skiddy wrote:darren clarke and mcginley had a falling out over the battle to get ryder cup captaincy apparently. Doubt DC will be a vc

Think DC will get the nod next time tho.

McLaren wrote:Navy

Tiger has had a pretty fine career while not giving a scheiss about the ryder cup.

Actually, not sure about that. He certainly looks like he couldn't care less but then, the more I think about it, he looks sour faced every time he plays, in every interview he gives etc etc.

One other thing. How great for other U.S. team players if someone, no matter how good his solo career record is, makes it as a pick when, demonstrably, he's a million miles from playing well enough and he's nowhere near fit enough. I'd be seriously p!ssed if I was on the team as of right and 9C gets a free pass when he's playing shoite and he's obviously nowhere near fit. Can't imagine it could be good for team morale in the slightest.

Go on Tom! Pick him! You know it makes sense.

I'm sure that Tiger's endorsement deals give him some bonuses for making the RC team. Not that he needs the money. But I think the same goes for much of the other players' endorsement deals.

With that being said, in RC you can only use your own clubs,(and maybe gloves and shoes) right? The rest of the gear / outfit is the same?

pedro wrote:I'm sure that Tiger's endorsement deals give him some bonuses for making the RC team. Not that he needs the money. But I think the same goes for much of the other players' endorsement deals.

With that being said, in RC you can only use your own clubs,(and maybe gloves and shoes) right? The rest of the gear / outfit is the same?

I wonder if America will bring waterproofs this time?

With half the PGA Tour season being washed away one should think so. But with their captains team all being penioners I wouldn't be surprised if they forgot.  

And someone should tell Stricker he can't bring his hunting rifle as carry-on.

Quote II of the day:

Tom Watson said he received a text from a player -- he would not reveal the name -- that read, "I am playing well, I've got a new driver and I'm going to make you pick me."

  

Not Tiger methinks - even though he's in desperate need of a new driver - but who could send such a stupid text?

Dustin Johnson.

Jack Nicklaus

Was it you Diggers?

Tom knows Im available Super

You'd probably fare better than 9C Diggers.

pedro wrote:Quote II of the day:

Tom Watson said he received a text from a player -- he would not reveal the name -- that read, "I am playing well, I've got a new driver and I'm going to make you pick me."

  

Not Tiger methinks - even though he's in desperate need of a new driver - but who could send such a stupid text?

Shouldn't be hard to narrow it down. Needs to be

1. Male
2. American
3. Currently not qualified and unlikely to qualify
4. A bit of smarmy tw@t
5. Have low self esteem/desperately needy
6. A bit of a fantasist.

I take it back - it's impossible to narrow it down

Sounds like an American version of Ian Poulter (only that Ian of course will make the team).

Only Ping and Callaway have recent releases - Billly Horschel with his new G30?

good shout Barra! saw an article somewhere with him spouting on about it going 15 yards further

Yep, thought of him as well!

Hunter "No Oil Painting" Mahan is a Ping player too.

Anonymous text to Tom Watson:

"Tom, I’m a multiple major winner and one of the biggest name in golf ever. Now I can hardly walk or hit the ball. But I really want to be on your team - just need a few reps."

Reply from Tom: "Ha ha, you prankster Arnie."

SSP Chowrasia?

pedro wrote:Anonymous text to Tom Watson:

"Tom, I’m a multiple major winner and one of the biggest name in golf ever. Now I can hardly walk or hit the ball. But I really want to be on your team - just need a few reps."

Reply from Tom: "Ha ha, you prankster Arnie."

   

Some OWGR Notes:

Both Wyndham and Made in Denmark events are low rated events, Wyndham at 34 Rating and Denmark at 24.  Matsuyama (#18) is the highest ranked player in the Wyndham and he can to #13 if he wins.

Bjorn is the highest ranked player in the Denmark tournament and he can get to #21 should he win.

Day and Mickelson will trade places in the rankings this week (Attrition differences)

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Prince Dracula on his twitter feed has pointed out the Match Play will probably hurt EuroTour participation because the calendar OWGR bias favored the European Tour in February, but hurts the European Tour in April.

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Woods has announced that he will not be playing until early December.  His average should be down to ~ 3.35 at that time and based on last years Dec 1, 2013 ranking, that would be about 30th.

GPB wrote:Some OWGR Notes:

Both Wyndham and Made in Denmark events are low rated events, Wyndham at 34 Rating and Denmark at 24.  Matsuyama (#18) is the highest ranked player in the Wyndham and he can to #13 if he wins.

Bjorn is the highest ranked player in the Denmark tournament and he can get to #21 should he win.

Day and Mickelson will trade places in the rankings this week (Attrition differences)

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Prince Dracula on his twitter feed has pointed out the Match Play will probably hurt EuroTour participation because the calendar OWGR bias favored the European Tour in February, but hurts the European Tour in April.

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Baldy 9C has announced that he will not be playing until early December.  His average should be down to ~ 3.35 at that time and based on last years Dec 1, 2013 ranking, that would be about 30th.

    

Blimey - that's quite the rapid descent.

Bob_the_Job wrote:Blimey - that's quite the rapid descent.

Rapid?  Not in my opinion.  

500+ players have earned more OWGR points than Tiger in 2014.  He should not even be in the top 25 with his 2014 record.

Shows the stupidity of the rankings.

Tennis rankings for me have the best model . 12 months rolling points. What you can't defend drops off and what you win is added.

Lots of mixed feelings about that and I'm probably in the minority!

I reckon the OWGR's are about right but sure we'd all offer tweaks, in my case with limited field money grabs and some subsidies, especially on the European Tour.
One thing is for sure and that is Woods will have to play well immediately he returns or his rate of fall will accelerate.

What are the implications for Woods if he falls out of the OWGR top 50?

Very little I would expect. He's got exemptions for tournaments coming out of his backside.

And sponsors invites for anything probably.

inco,
If he falls precipitously he could miss the MatchPlay in May (which he wouldn't much care about) and the Bridgestone in August (which I'm sure he'd regret).
Can't see any other ramifications.

Kwini:  Woods is not qualified for Cadillac either and if he doesn't stop the bleeding, he will be out of the top 50 at the deadline date.

I figure he needs to earn about 15 pts minimum to be in the top 50 at the Cadillac deadline date.

kwinigolfer wrote:inco,
If he falls precipitously he could miss the MatchPlay in May (which he wouldn't much care about) and the Bridgestone in August (which I'm sure he'd regret).
Can't see any other ramifications.

No past champion exemption for the Bridgestone?!

Can you see Woods playing the champions tour when the time comes, body permitting?

I can't see it, he seems to hate playing golf, so can't see him playing the Champions Tour.

No, no champovtour for TW, that's certain.

What about the Majors? Didnt most of them change exemption of past champs to 5 yrs?

Not sure Pedro, The Masters obviously hasn't seeing as it's stuffed with coffin dodgers and has-been's.
Can't say for sure about the others.

super_realist wrote:Not sure Pedro, The Masters obviously hasn't seeing as it's stuffed with coffin dodgers and has-been's.
Can't say for sure about the others.

Yeah, but I think it applies only for champs after a certain year. That’s why Lyle and the likes are still hacking their way around. I think the Open did something like that to avoid the field being clogged up with seatfillers.

Woods is in all the Majors thru the 2018 Masters - no exemption for the 2018 US Open as of now.

Had missed the Cadillac, thanks GPB, and obviously is not currently exempt for the 2015 HSBC Champions.
No Past Champion exemption in to WGC's.

One wonders what the future holds for 9C. I guess given his stubborn nature he will continue to play, between injuries, for the next ~10 years. Then maybe retire to a cushy corporate number at Nike/course design work etc.

incontinentia wrote:One wonders what the future holds for 9C. I guess given his stubborn nature he will continue to play, between injuries, for the next ~10 years. Then maybe retire to a cushy corporate number at Nike/course design work etc.

Probably see him in the sunday papers advertising baldness solutions like Graham Gooch.

incontinentia wrote:One wonders what the future holds for 9C. I guess given his stubborn nature he will continue to play, between injuries, for the next ~10 years. Then maybe retire to a cushy corporate number at Nike/course design work etc.

10 years?? no way Incon, I don't think we'll see much more of him to be absolutely honest. I can't see him settling for mediocrity in the field. If his next comeback isn't at least like his 2013 comeback where he won 5 events and/or he's simply not challenging in the Majors or he has another (new or recurring) injury then I think that will be... Adios

If I were him, it would be my last throw of the dice, I'd get the best physio money could buy and get on a proper physical rehab geared at flexibility & injury prevention (the multi rep Navy Seal type nonsense needs binning), I'd also engage Rotella to sort my head out then biggest of all....swallow my pride and go back to Butch. If all that failed then yeah... Course design.

I thought so too originally Jas, and any normal person would probably retire from their sport, but he's so stubborn that he will probably continue attempting to fix his body no matter how hopeless it becomes. He'd only call time on his career if there was no other option.

Wouldn't fancy playing a Tiger Woods design:
300 yd Par-3's
550 yd Par-4's
700 yd Par-5's
All with 275 yard forced carries. Ooh, and no pot bunkers.

If course design (which is a good guess), he'd probably only do a handful high-end, top notch, hyped courses (in Dubai etc.) to prevent dilluting his name (and ego).

kwinigolfer wrote:
300 yd Par-3's
550 yd Par-4's
700 yd Par-5's

Are these the width of the fairways?

Dustin Johnson loves the pot bunkers

pedro wrote:

kwinigolfer wrote:
300 yd Par-3's
550 yd Par-4's
700 yd Par-5's

Are these the width of the fairways?

There'd be trees down the middle and fairways either side

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