Summer Transfer Window

Sunderland are apparently on for will Buckley again this weekend. Another one from Brighton.

Also after Nacer Chadli from spurs and Jonas from Valencia - along with still trying to persuade fabio borini.

Hero wrote: Presume Cuadrado is on his way in.

Strong rumours that Barce are putting a bid in.

Barca are this summers lazy link of choice.

West Ham make a bid for Wickham.

Hes better than Carroll.

Nonsense rumor of the day is Zaha to Forest on loan.

I can see wickham going. He is on his last year of his contract and all we have done is offer an extension without a payrise. I'll be sad to see him go though.

GSC wrote:West Ham make a bid for Wickham.

Hes better than Carroll.

He really isn't.

Don't rate Wickham, never a prolific scorer, not going to get carried away by a three or four game spell at the end of last season. Think he's decidely B rate, if that.

Carroll left, what 3 years ago now Crimey. You don't have to defend him anymore.

John wrote:Don't rate Wickham, never a prolific scorer, not going to get carried away by a three or four game spell at the end of last season. Think he's decidely B rate, if that.

Carroll is C rate at best tho.

GSC wrote:Carroll left, what 3 years ago now Crimey. You don't have to defend him anymore.

Surprisingly enough a player doesn't have to play for my team for me to think he's better than Connor Wickham. 

I think Carroll would be considered a top forward if it wasn't for his injury issues.

His injury issues disguise just how average he actually is.

He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

GSC wrote:His injury issues disguise just how average he actually is.

Even then Connor Wickham is well below average. I'm not confident he would even succeed in the Championship.

8 in 16 last season, Carroll got 17 in 39 in quite frankly one of the best teams in the 2nd tier in recent memory. Fine spell at Wednesday last year.

Ask me to pick one and it'd be the 21 year old who played a big part in keeping Sunderland up vs the 25 year old injury prone lump with no technical ability.

Andy Carroll is a criminally underrated striker; he was exactly what England needed in the last twenty-five minutes against Italy.

John wrote:He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

He's highest is 13 in a PL season would i bank on Wickham to score more then that as he gets older yes i would.

John wrote:He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

I'd say I've probably watched more of Wickham than most here.

Is that 15 in the PL all time? Because his best season is 13 goals in 10/11 and since then he scored 13 league goals total. Still living off half a PL season with Newcastle.

Duty281 wrote:Andy Carroll is a criminally underrated striker; he was exactly what England needed in the last twenty-five minutes against Italy.

I'd rather have Welbeck and we all know how useless I think he is.

Andy Carroll's unfortunate injuries have scuppered his progress. Given time, I am sure he could give a challenge to Daniel Sturridge for the number nine position in the colours of England.

At the very least, he would be a fantastic impact option. #oneandycarroll

Fernando wrote:

John wrote:He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

He's highest is 11

11 upto xmas, before going to anfield. would of surpassed 15 with ease.

John wrote:

Fernando wrote:

John wrote:He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

He's highest is 11

11 upto xmas, before going to anfield. would of surpassed 15 with ease.

Until rather predictably, he got injured and did very little for the rest of the season.

Injuries stop becoming unfortunate when they occur as often as Carrolls.

John wrote:

Fernando wrote:

John wrote:He's just talking about who's a better player, at best, when fit. Carroll's proved he can score 15 in the EPL, what's Wickham done......precisely, very little. If your going to cream yourselves over a four game spell last season, then your standards are pretty low for judging a striker. Wickham - average at best. I'll add, Carroll isn't much better....but he's superior to Wickham.

He's highest is 11

11 upto xmas, before going to anfield. would of surpassed 15 with ease.

That's like claiming Aaron Ramsey would of continued his form after Christmas last year if he didn't get injured. If he didn't do it you can't make things fit your argument really John he could of gone down injured which lets face it is a major possibility with him   

No, just saying he got 11 upto xmas, irrespective of injury or whatever, he has shown, when fit, he can score in this league pretty comfortably & can achieve 15+ goals in a season. Yeah, he got injured & it's hypothetical but it was only 4 more goals, the potential is there & he's shown it. Wickham hasn't shown to be able score near 15 as of yet & was playing Championship football only last year but because of a three or four game spell, he's now better than Carroll, who's played for England & scored at a major championship. I don't think so. Still time for Wickham to prove to us he can be taken seriously as a striker, so far, he's shown nothing of note. Don't see why he's got so much support, he's decidedly average.

Anyway, wish I never bothered posting on Wickham or Carroll. Think both are average strikers & wasting time discussing them is something I'd rather not continue to do. lol.

At least once a year we have this day, GSC. I've heard you started watching Countdown after Vorderman left, and go on holiday every December due to those awful songs people sing around Christmas.

I'd expect we'll refuse to meet their valuation and end up with Crouch or this french lad Sakho (not Liverpool's) instead.

Considering we have Zarate, Valencia and King Carlton anyway I'd rather we looked at another centre back with the only money we've left to spend, but thats not how our owners work. Glamorous signings are strikers, defenders are dull.

Rachel Riley>Vorderman

Grant Holt was more effective than Carroll ever was in the PL

Fackt

In other news, Marin completes the quartet of major European leagues and goes to Fiorentina on loan.

He'll be in France next season. He's expected to retire before he reaches Scotland though.

As much as it pains me, I agree with John. Wickham isn't as good as he thinks he is. I do think he has talent though.

Since joining us 3 years ago his 1st decent run in the team was at the end of last season. He done great and his goals helped is stay up. To prove himself he has to continue that sort of form. Gus has to give him a fair amount of games up till Christmas. I think we will know more about him then.

Poyet has told him if he doesn't sign an extension then he will be sold.

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:I'm hoping he got taken off as a precaution. This is why I thought we should have bought a replacement for Vermaelen before letting him go.

It's just aswell Arsene didn't listen to you because Vermaelen is out til mid-september with a hamstring injury that's carried over from the WC   

Mangala confirmed for city.

Thats the title wrapped up for them if he is competent.

Aleksander Tonev going on loan to Celtic

Duty281 wrote:Andy Carroll is a criminally underrated striker; he was exactly what England needed in the last twenty-five minutes against Italy.

on these boards andy carroll is massively overrated!!

darren anderton would have been as good as zidane if not for injuries, and if my aunt had b0llocks she'd be my uncle

GSC wrote:Rachel Riley>Vorderman

Riley lacks any sort of sex appeal or sensuality, it'd be like f*cking a particularly boring coat rack. Vorderman would be like f*cking a coat rack that you've had around a LOT longer. They're both dreadful. It's Carroll vs Wickham but for Maths geeks.

DAVE667 wrote:

GSC wrote:Rachel Riley>Vorderman

Riley lacks any sort of sex appeal or sensuality, it'd be like f*cking a particularly boring coat rack. Vorderman would be like f*cking a coat rack that you've had around a LOT longer. They're both dreadful. It's Carroll vs Wickham but for Maths geeks.

Both better up top and around the box than Carroll or Wickham though.

And somewhere to hang your coat too.

GSC wrote:In other news, Marin completes the quartet of major European leagues and goes to Fiorentina on loan.

He'll be in France next season. He's expected to retire before he reaches Scotland though.

He might get a game for The Rangers.

Fernando wrote:

Nakatomi Plaza wrote:I'm hoping he got taken off as a precaution. This is why I thought we should have bought a replacement for Vermaelen before letting him go.

It's just aswell Arsene didn't listen to you because Vermaelen is out til mid-september with a hamstring injury that's carried over from the WC   

I thought Vermaelen's injury was fake! Looks like he went through the same medical that Kim Kallstrom had for us!

Sunderland apparently have had a £2.5m bid for Brighton's Will Buckley accepted.

We have had a fee agreed apparantly with Columbia midfielder Carlos Sanchez.
 
 
Didn't see any of Columbia's games in the world cup, not sure what he's like.

From what I remember of that name, he's a holding midfielder, likes a tackle & quite strong. what's the fee?

Also, big news on Shola Ameobi. He's just signed a one year deal at Turkish second division club Gaziantep Buyuksehir Belediyespor. Thought I'd let you all know, cos he will be missed in the EPL.

Benatia to Chelsea looks all but certain now, hopefully we can offload Mikel to make room for him. Maybe united will sign him... afterall they're not exactly managing to sign anyone else!

John wrote:From what I remember of that name, he's a holding midfielder, likes a tackle & quite strong. what's the fee?
Also, big news on Shola Ameobi. He's just signed a one year deal at Turkish second division club Gaziantep Buyuksehir Belediyespor. Thought I'd let you all know, cos he will be missed in the EPL.

 
Cheers John.
 
Likes a tackle, thats good, him and Delph together then in that sense.
 
Fee is around £4.7m.

Lerner not actively selling Villa now, will release some funds for transfers.

Bet Lambert wishes he'd decided that a month ago

When we played a couple of pre season games in Texas, Lerner flew from New York to watch the team.

He was saying he wanted to be more involved,(so thats the rumour anyway).

Could have done with him selling at the end of last season.

Translation, nobody wants to pay for this mess after Fulham last season

According to SSN (in as much as its on my TV and i havent looked elsewhere) Marcos Rojo hands in transfer request and tells club he wants to join Man United.

"Sporting Lisbon's Argentine defender Marcos Rojo, 24, has refused to show up for training in a bid to force through a £16m move to Manchester United, reports the Daily Express."

Would any club want to sign someone with a bad attitude? Wouldn't want him playing for me.

The whole world will not care. It happens. Sadly