Summer Transfer Window

by GSC Mon 01 Sep 2014, 8:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

2 to Swansea at home. And the mighty attacks of Sunderland and Burnley

by GSC Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:26 pm

compelling and rich wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:
Crimey wrote:Van Gaal has to deliver top four. He's been given the funds, signed two of the best players in the world over the past two years and spent more than any other team in the Premier League as well having at least the top two highest wages in the league (Rooney and Falcao). No excuses really.

He actually ought to be challenging for the title with the amount that was spent.

normally i would agree, but he's in his first year taking over a shambles left by moyes. top 4 in first year is more than enough, should look to challenge the year after.

Back to blaming Moyes already, has Uniteds start taught you nothing? Lest we forget Moyes got Fellaini as his only major signing in the whole of last summer.

by Derbymanc Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:43 pm

Surely it's shambles left by Fergie, after all Moyes didn't buy/loan enough to be able to call the squad his own?

by GSC Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:46 pm

I agree Derby.

I felt Fergusons retirement was more he could see what was coming so go out on top.

by compelling and rich Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:49 pm

moyes was given a whole summer with funds to spend and spent nearly 70 mil on players that we didnt need. he also alienated senior players like vidic who decided to leave during his reign. fergie got the last out of the squad he needed to and left a far bit money to spend and a clean slate to any manager coming in. im sorry but we won the league with fergies team so why should he be investing just because other managers couldnt get the same? the next manager might not have wanted the players fergie brought in

by compelling and rich Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:51 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29026398

heard this nonsense from phelan, think id rather have top quality foreign players than load of sh!t mancs. be nice if we have quality local youngsters coming through but we havent for quite a while, something which phelan had a part to play in

by GSC Tue 02 Sep 2014, 2:58 pm

Those senior players needed shot of. They may have been senior players but they were no longer good enough. Its Woodwards job to close transfers, not Moyes, how long was spent Wee weeing about looking at Fabregas and Thiago last summer, before panic buying Fellaini at the last moment. Then a big name signing in Mata that really addressed none of Uniteds weaknesses.

When it was evident a rebuild was in order, 2 players in 12 months (1 of which was a luxury signing) wasn't exactly giving Moyes much support was it? Scapegoating Moyes kinda loses its lustre, when 4 games into his reign, LVG has yet to win any of 4 winnable games with more money and players than Moyes had put into his reign. The squad SAF left was filled with Rooney, RVP, De Gea and a bunch of players either on their last legs or mediocre. He got enough out of it to win a PL in which both Chelsea and City imploded under their own steam.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 3:20 pm

Phil Neville wrote:"Who are the centre-backs out there that United could buy today? There are not many.

"I don't think the quality is out there - we have seen that by some of the defending throughout European football. I was out every week last season scouting - we looked at Eliaquim Mangala, Thomas Vermaelen and Mats Hummels.

"Mangala - who ended up joining Manchester City for £32m - is young, raw, quick, but is the fourth choice centre-back for France. He has the attributes to go higher but for that money I thought he wasn't up it.

"Hummels is captain of Borussia Dortmund and they said he wasn't leaving. United tried for Vermaelen, who went to Barcelona, and ended up with Marcos Rojo who was probably second choice."

by GSC Tue 02 Sep 2014, 3:22 pm

Woodward: "Can we buy Hummels"

Dortmund: "No"

Woodword: "Okie dokie"

by **Crimey** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 4:45 pm

Funny that Cleverley was being slated for not moving, but it turned out he had. Guessing the loan move is so that he can still get his full Manchester United wage though with Aston Villa only paying a portion.

by The Special Juan Tue 02 Sep 2014, 4:47 pm

After everything Fergie did for the club he was more than entitled to bail out whenever he wanted. And I have to add that United won the title because they were the better side that season. Even in the CL it took a very dubious decision to prevent them from beating Real over the 2 legs.

by GSC Tue 02 Sep 2014, 4:49 pm

His United wage is only 30k. I heard he wanted 60k.

That was Joses last season in charge wasn't it? As it tends to be with Jose, there was something very rotten at the core of that Madrid side, and Dortmund took them to the cleaners.

by **Crimey** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 4:52 pm

GSC wrote:His United wage is only 30k. I heard he wanted 60k.

I'd heard he was demanding £80k from some teams, crazy that he thinks he should be getting more than he's getting at United.

by compelling and rich Tue 02 Sep 2014, 5:20 pm

i thought he was on 70k a week at ours

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Tue 02 Sep 2014, 5:24 pm

compelling and rich wrote:i thought he was on 70k a week at ours

I think he is, can't see Everton borking at £30k per week

by Liam Tue 02 Sep 2014, 5:29 pm

Either way, since his first full season with utd Cleverly has been very poor. He showed in his debut season that he has the ability to be a decent midfielder. He needed this fresh start and I do hope he goes on to regain some confidence and do a good job for Villa. His wage demands, if reports are to be believed, are ridiculous but you have to wonder how much that is down to his agent. However when he comes out with stuff like 'la liga crowds would appreciate me' or 'its not my job to score and defend its my job to play 5 yard sideways passes' or things along those lines he doesn't help himself.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 6:38 pm

Should work well at Villa. Gonna be on a free next year so clever loan.

by Hammersmith harrier Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:02 pm

He's a tidy midfielder who doesn't stand out but at a team like Villa he'll be workmanlike enough to do a decent job.

by Guest Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:10 pm

He's not decent, he's terrible. In fact he's horrific on all levels. He's so bad, I'd rather watch Obertan run at pace with the ball past a player & watch the inevitable s**t cross, than watch wonky, spinal dystrophy boy attempt to play football. He can take his embarrassingly limited ability to Villa park & once the Villa fans watch those shocking sideways blind passes to the opposition, inevitable 0 goals & 0 assists stats come May, they will be desperate to him leave. Actually they will be pleading.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:26 pm

Once John makes up his mind on a player...

by The Special Juan Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:29 pm

Tough day?

by Guest Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:47 pm

You know I'm spot on boys......SPOT ON!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 7:50 pm

John wrote:You know I'm spot on boys......SPOT ON!

Just like I will be with me relegation tips Cool

by Guest Tue 02 Sep 2014, 8:53 pm

Once we spank Koeman's men next, we'll be an unstoppable force.

by westisbest Tue 02 Sep 2014, 9:55 pm

As a Villa fan, lets hope he does well.

Only time will tell how well he does.

He will start on the bench anyway.

Am sure Lambert will start with the same team that has played the previous league games.

by Ent Tue 02 Sep 2014, 10:06 pm

Cleverly will do well elsewhere.

Needs to be higher up the pitch than he was for is and his confidence was absolutely shot last season.

by Guest Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:21 pm

Ent wrote:Cleverly will do well elsewhere.

Yes, in a new profession.

by Ent Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:28 pm

He'll surprise you.

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:38 pm

If he's as good as he was at Wigan then he'll be an excellent addition.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:48 pm

Cleverley >>>>>>> El Ahmadi/Sylla etc

A midfield of Sanchez, Delph and Cleverley is very promising for Villa, especially if you can get Gabby, Benteke, Weimann going up top when fit

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 02 Sep 2014, 11:53 pm

Richardson is decent in the middle too. Looking up for Lambert

by **Crimey** Wed 03 Sep 2014, 1:16 am

Villa have actually had a not too bad window after it looked like they were going to really struggle at the end of last year with Lerner's announcement etc.

by Josiah Maiestas Wed 03 Sep 2014, 2:12 am

I'm not saying Cleverley has no football skill but Villa wouldn't have gone for him if he played for Cardiff. He just runs about passing it no longer than 6 yards and can't read the game Sorry

by Guest Wed 03 Sep 2014, 9:00 am

Don't apologise son, your only speaking the truth.

by hornbloweroafc Wed 03 Sep 2014, 10:13 am

Olly wrote:Cleverley >>>>>>> El Ahmadi/Sylla etc

A midfield of Sanchez, Delph and Cleverley is very promising for Villa, especially if you can get Gabby, Benteke, Weimann going up top when fit

What about Westwood? The young lad as looked a good player to me in that midfield. Cleverley will be sub as Sanchez still can't get into the starting lineup.

by **hampo17** Wed 03 Sep 2014, 12:28 pm

Lots of talk that Valdes has agreed a one year deal with Liverpool, very good signing on a free.

by Guest Wed 03 Sep 2014, 12:30 pm

Yeah, definitely agree. Mignolet is awful & an accident waiting to happen.

by **Crimey** Wed 03 Sep 2014, 12:50 pm

I expect Mignolet would still be first choice with Valdes as back up.

Mutually beneficial for the move, Rodgers has been looking for a better back up goalkeeper, Valdes needs a club to build up his fitness again and prove his worth, Mignolet can learn from Valdes and Valdes can get his name back out there.

Would be surprised if Mignolet was usurped or if Valdes stayed longer than the one year.

by Mackem Fri 05 Sep 2014, 8:20 am

Sunderland are set to sign free agent Jonas. He was at Valencia last season.

by westisbest Fri 05 Sep 2014, 1:41 pm

hornbloweroafc wrote:
Olly wrote:Cleverley >>>>>>> El Ahmadi/Sylla etc

A midfield of Sanchez, Delph and Cleverley is very promising for Villa, especially if you can get Gabby, Benteke, Weimann going up top when fit

What about Westwood? The young lad as looked a good player to me in that midfield. Cleverley will be sub as Sanchez still can't get into the starting lineup.

True

I like Westwood, works hard.

Would be surprised if Cleverly started next week. A s you say Sanchez is on the bench and is getting used to premiership life.
Will be ahead of Cleverly.

Richardson has looked pretty good so far, Senderos to.

Hutton had probably his best game in a Villa shirt v Newcastle.

Early days and all, but happy so far.

If Gabby & Weimann can bang a few more goals in and Bent when he comes on, then with Tekkers to come back we should be ok.

Defence has looked solid so far.

Keeping Vlaar was a big plus.

Cissokho has been decent to so far.

Also Cole who still think is a decent player to come.
Young Jack Grealish is a talent, so things are looking a bit more positive for tht Villa.

Looking forward to the Liverpool game.

by Gerry SA Fri 05 Sep 2014, 10:53 pm

Juventus want to sign Juan Mata in January. The Turin based club can't match the fee what Manchester United would demand, around £35m, and are hoping to swap Mata for Vidal.

Meanwhile a Rome based paper has stated AS Roma have granted Manchester United a fitness trail for Kevin Strootman in December, ahead of his proposed January move to Old Trafford. Strootman recently changed his agent to the same used by van Gaal and van Persie.

by Guest Fri 05 Sep 2014, 11:42 pm

Gerry getting the January window off & running. Pointless.

I'd rather just get down to football now, than worry about the dealings that might happen in four months time.

by Ent Fri 05 Sep 2014, 11:44 pm

Got to get some terrible, pointless, unwanted internationals out of the way first.

by Gerry SA Fri 05 Sep 2014, 11:51 pm

John wrote:Gerry getting the January window off & running. Pointless.

I'd rather just get down to football now, than worry about the dealings that might happen in four months time.

Feel free to stick with Lewis Hamilton then...

Anyway I fell a little sorry for Juan Mata. Turfed out from Chelsea and now seems unwanted at Manchester United.

by Ent Sat 06 Sep 2014, 12:16 am

There's a reason for that.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat 06 Sep 2014, 3:19 pm

Indeed, Mata did score something like 6 goals in 7 games at one point, you won't get defensive work from him though. Thats a good reason why Chelsea lost 5-3 at home to Arsenal that year. Matic far more balanced than Mata.

by Fernando Thu 06 Nov 2014, 8:34 pm

Leyton Orient have randomly signed Andrea Dossena Shocked

Most notable for lobbing United goalkeepers

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