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Post by It Must Be Love Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:19 am

Djokovic defending champion, and the race for WTF hots up !

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Post by It Must Be Love Sat 04 Oct 2014, 11:21 am

Nadal has a very good draw here, can he take advantage of it though ?

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Post by TRuffin Sat 04 Oct 2014, 4:57 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:Nadal has a very good draw here, can he take advantage of it though ?

If the courts are playing slow like in Bejing (though that didn't work out for him), Nadal has a great draw. If playing faster, then Nadal has some big hitters in his half like Isner, Raonic who could knock him out.

It's true, the other half of the draw is more heavily weighted and interesting with Djokovic, Fed, Murray, Dimitrov, Nishi,etc. I think we might see someone other than Djoko or Fed come out of that half.

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Post by It Must Be Love Mon 06 Oct 2014, 1:58 pm

Raonic can trouble him; not Isner though from what I've seen of him this year.

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Post by It Must Be Love Mon 06 Oct 2014, 1:59 pm

Cilic lost early here; Gasquet went through.

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Post by LuvSports! Mon 06 Oct 2014, 4:00 pm

Wins for Isner, Dimi, gasquet, karlovic, monaco, anderson, lu, sock and jaziri

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Post by laverfan Tue 07 Oct 2014, 3:32 am

I want Gulbis/Thiem to win the Shanghai Doubles. Run

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Post by The Special Juan Tue 07 Oct 2014, 10:49 am

In a bit of good news for Murray, Gary Neville (ERV) has taken the first set v Janowicz.
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Post by The Special Juan Tue 07 Oct 2014, 12:12 pm

Poor old Teymuraz hasn't done much wrong but has lost the first set 6-1. Janowicz-Neville are at 5-4* in the 3rd.
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Post by The Special Juan Tue 07 Oct 2014, 12:31 pm

It's turned scrappy on centre, from both players. Janowicz d. Neville 3-6 7-5 7-6 (8)
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue 07 Oct 2014, 1:13 pm

Murray fights back from 3-5 down in the second set to take it 7-5, played some good stuff at the end. Gabashvilli just getting nothing out of his serve (56% won on first serve, 36% on second, you won't win many matches with stats like that).

Looked sharp did Andy, hopefully there's even more to come.

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Post by Born Slippy Tue 07 Oct 2014, 3:35 pm

With Rafa suffering from appendicitis, this looks a good chance for Raonic to get some more easy points towards wtf qualification.

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Post by HM Murdock Tue 07 Oct 2014, 3:45 pm

Born Slippy wrote:With Rafa suffering from appendicitis, this looks a good chance for Raonic to get some more easy points towards wtf qualification.
If Rafa is seriously impaired, this is the most lop-sided draw I can remember for a while.

Djokovic, Federer, Murray, and Nishikori in the same half.

Rafa could have the plague and probably still make it to the final!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 07 Oct 2014, 4:19 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Murray fights back from 3-5 down in the second set to take it 7-5, played some good stuff at the end. Gabashvilli just getting nothing out of his serve (56% won on first serve, 36% on second, you won't win many matches with stats like that).

Looked sharp did Andy, hopefully there's even more to come.

Still too much inconsistency in his play for my liking though hunger, desire seems back. Very good in the first set and much less so in the second set. Still, hopefully, he can go deep here and at least reach the quarters and Djokovic.
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Post by It Must Be Love Tue 07 Oct 2014, 4:49 pm

ffs Nadal could probably get injured playing Wii Tennis

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Post by laverfan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:54 am

HM Murdoch wrote:... could have the plague ...

These days are earmarked for Ebola, not Bubonic Plague. Wink

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Post by kingraf Wed 08 Oct 2014, 7:52 am

Maybe it's just me... but Wawrinka looks a little round.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 8:48 am

I don't like the new challenge camera angle at this tournament, but it does make it seem more "realistic".
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:06 am

Let me guess - Janowicz to hit a lot of drop shots in the first few games before they completely evaporate from his game. Winner plays Ferrer, who overcame Klizan in 3. Fat Stan is also out after hitting far too many UEs against Gilles "Simone".
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:09 am

The good news (from my point of view) is that Dimitrov is a set and a break down to Benneteau. As if that's going to last though!
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:38 am

The Special Juan wrote:The good news (from my point of view) is that Dimitrov is a set and a break down to Benneteau.  As if that's going to last though!

It has lasted Bennetteau wins in straight sets.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:40 am

Goodness! Benneteau winning a big match? There will be blue snow next!
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:56 am

Very good from Murray to take the set 7-5. His serve and UE count have been the highlights.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 08 Oct 2014, 9:57 am

Murray takes the first set 7-5. He has looked bullet-proof on his serve but his return game has been a bit in and out at times.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:39 am

Janowicz well beaten in the end. Murray should have enough to get past Ferrer, then the real task begins.......
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:39 am

Murray gets it done in pretty imperious fashion. Solid as anything on serve and created plenty of opportunities on return, proving far too good for Janowicz. I like what I'm seeing from Andy at the moment, he seems to have his fighting spirit back.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:41 am

Janowicz winning just 38% of points behind his second serve, that's not going to get the job done.

Physically Murray looks fine, which is good news as others seem to be struggling a little (Nishikori for instance, apparently had the trainer on today in his defeat to Sock).

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:45 am

MfC yes there are signs of improvement and reasons for more optimism but I feel there is still much work to be done on the consistency and confidence front. Other results went his way today in that Wawrinka, Dimitrov and Nishikori all lost so he will (at the very least) nibble away at the lead those have in front of him in the race for London.
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Post by kingraf Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:49 am

Does a Wawrinka defeat really go his way though? Surely for all intents and purposes, Wawrinka is through?
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:54 am

I think Dimitrov has blown his chance TBH, suspect he's just run out of steam after his first full season at the very top. Perhaps not surprising, but he'll be back.

Consistency has never been a strong point for Murray really, even in his slam wins he was maddeningly inconsistent: anyone remember US Open, where he had two comfortable matches, then looked to all the world like he would lose to Lopez in R3, demolished Raonic in R4, before looking in real trouble for a set and a half against Cilic in the QF, etc. Wimbledon of course and the Verdasco match (he also went a set down in the SF).

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 08 Oct 2014, 10:56 am

on a side-note, some interesting analysis after the Murray match, particularly enjoyed the point about Murray taking a step out wide on the deuce court to cover the wide serve, a big weapon of Janowicz (standing about half a yard wider than he did in R1).

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Post by dummy_half Wed 08 Oct 2014, 11:47 am

kingraf wrote:Does a Wawrinka defeat really go his way though? Surely for all intents and purposes, Wawrinka is through?

I think Cilic's early defeat here means Stan must be through. The only scenario where he could have missed out would be if Cilic finished 8th and he finished 9th or 10th. While it may be (just about) mathematically possible for him to drop that far, there is no way I can't see how it can happen in a manner that Cilic finishes ahead of him as well.

Most probably, by the end of this week Stan will be guaranteed a top 7 spot anyway, which means Cilic is also safely qualified even if he falls below 8th.

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Post by laverfan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 2:31 pm

Nadal gone. Crying or Very sad

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 2:38 pm

Djokovic looks as lean and mean as I've ever seen him.
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Post by dummy_half Wed 08 Oct 2014, 2:40 pm

laverfan wrote:Nadal gone. Crying or Very sad

Surprised (and impressed) that he even played If he is being treated for appendicitis. One occasion where it is reasonable to say Rafa's loss owes rather a lot to a compromised physical condition.

Surely Berdych can't fail to reach the final now - Wawrinka, Ciliic, Raonic and Nadal all out of his side of the draw. Probably his toughest match before the final is his next one against Gasquet...

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 2:41 pm

Boring Milos is also out - withdrew.  I fancy Berdy to get another slapping here from Djokovic.

@dh he dismantled Gasquet today 3 & 1.
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Post by It Must Be Love Wed 08 Oct 2014, 2:45 pm

dummy_half wrote:
laverfan wrote:Nadal gone. Crying or Very sad
One occasion where it is reasonable to say Rafa's loss owes rather a lot to a compromised physical condition.
There have been many occasions, unfortunately.

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Post by laverfan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:18 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
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laverfan wrote:Nadal gone. Crying or Very sad
One occasion where it is reasonable to say Rafa's loss owes rather a lot to a compromised physical condition.
There have been many occasions, unfortunately.

He should have withdrawn and saved some energy. It would prevent further aggravation of the appendix as well.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:36 pm

With Raonic retiring from his match today I think I might be right in saying if Murray beats Ferrer tomorrow he moves into the top eight above Raonic.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:44 pm

I think you're right CC, since Raonic had a bye to R2 he doesn't get any points for this tournament, so a QF for Murray (180 pts) would push him 5 pts above Raonic.

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Post by laverfan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:52 pm

Set 1 to the Old Man vs Mayer. Shanghai Match Thread 3845856932

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 3:54 pm

Mayer's had a very good year so far. I think he's won his first title and has risen into the top 40. I certainly don't think he has enough to trouble Federer though. Despite his big hitting game he's quite inconsistent.
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 08 Oct 2014, 4:26 pm

Federer using colourful language warning
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Post by dummy_half Wed 08 Oct 2014, 4:33 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Federer using colourful language warning

That's the South African side, not the Swiss one Smile

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Post by Jahu Wed 08 Oct 2014, 4:37 pm

Hahah, nice one.

Come on Mayer, send him home, he has so many Rolexes anyway, who cares.
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Post by Jahu Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:12 pm

Fed saves 2 MP, 5:5 third set.

Fed on Shopping mode trip.
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Post by Jahu Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:33 pm

Fed wins. Great third set, top TB, Mayer a little tears on his eyes.
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Post by LuvSports! Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:34 pm

FEDS YOU BEAUTY! SAVES MATCH POINTS!!! ALLEZ! CHUM JETZE! COOOMMEEE ON!

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Post by TRuffin Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:36 pm

What fight from Fed and credit to Mayer as well! Fed now moves into the #2 ranking. Just amazing.

Fed won't win the tournament- certainly won't beat Djokovic in this form- but the #2 seeding is important if he can hold it through the AO.

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Post by TRuffin Wed 08 Oct 2014, 5:39 pm

Has anyone ever seen a less balanced draw than what is left now? The Nadal half is completely decimated.

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