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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:08 pm

A thread to provide commentary on matches at tournaments which don't have their own threads (as I'm watching Ferrer v Murray).

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:14 pm

Murray looks up for this. These last 3 weeks will tell us a lot about Murray. Does he still have fight in him or have injuries and success caused him to lose that fire?
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:19 pm

Punishing start. Murray will feel he should have done more with two 30-30 situations. A couple of limp errors.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:23 pm

Lovely point!! Thought he'd made an arse of it but that was a cheeky volley.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:25 pm

Ferrer making a lot of forehand errors so far. Murray's first serve looking devastating (as it did last week for a set). Will be interesting to see if there is a drop off again.

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:29 pm

Another 30-30 come and gone. Honours even so far i would say.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:31 pm

If only Andy had Ferrer's FHDTL....
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:34 pm

Superb returning down the line from Ferrer.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:37 pm

Ferrer breaks and is just returning the better at the mo whilst Murray looks restless.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:38 pm

Shocker of a game really from Andy. Took the pace off the last two first serves only to miss easy forehands off short returns.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:41 pm

Not the greatest quality match ever, is it?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:43 pm

That is an infuriating thing for me about Murray. He has this knack of getting broken and breaking straight back. How about getting the break first Andy and maintaining that advantage?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:43 pm

He also has the reverse annoying trait of getting the break and handing it straight back.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:43 pm

A

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Post by summerblues Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:44 pm

Ah, good thread; I was always wondering why this was on the random tennis news thread.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:45 pm

Alluding to a point made a week or so ago, someone's destroyed his serve. It was wobbly during 2013 but he hits far more doubles than he used to.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:45 pm

Born Slippy wrote:A

Your most inciteful post ever BS. Wink laughing
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:48 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
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Your most inciteful post ever BS. Wink laughing

I typed a couple of sentences as well. Not sure where they went!

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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:52 pm

Gutsy winner from Ferrer at break point down.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:56 pm

Very questionable music choices at the changovers....
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 1:58 pm

Do the ballkids have racquets or am I seeing things??
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:00 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Do the ballkids have racquets or am I seeing things??

Yes they almost look like lacrosse racquets.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:02 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Do the ballkids have racquets or am I seeing things??

Yes they almost look like lacrosse racquets.

Any idea what they're for?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:03 pm

Are they not to scoop the balls up?
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:04 pm

Is that it? Someone tell them they have hands!!
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:05 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Is that it?  Someone tell them they have hands!!

I may be wrong but that is my best guess.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:07 pm

No it looks like you're right.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:10 pm

And in the blink of an eye and a shabbier than shabby service game from Murray the first serve goes to David Ferrer 7-5.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:12 pm

It will be a long way back from here and a loss for Murray will leave him in ninth in the race to London with two tournaments left to play for him.
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Post by summerblues Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:13 pm

Pretty impressive from little David.  I do not know if he can keep it up for another 1-2 hours, but he does not look like yesterday's match had any negative effects on him so far.

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Post by bogbrush Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:14 pm

Where's a slice? Where's some variety? Murray playing like Ferrer; boring and predictable, just ball bashing.

Trying to hit hard doesn't constitute attacking tennis.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:16 pm

That 3rd BP was poor. Yes it looked like the return was going long but there's no excuse for taking anything for granted. Play to the calls.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:21 pm

Murray is just trying to hit harder. It's fine if they go in but it's hardly clever and there'll be unforced errors that will seem inexplicable but are actually caused by lack of variety.

In 2007 I'd not believe I'd have been saying that in 2014 Murray looks a very limited player.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:25 pm

bogbrush wrote:Murray is just trying to hit harder. It's fine if they go in but it's hardly clever and there'll be unforced errors that will seem inexplicable but are actually caused by lack of variety.

In 2007 I'd not believe I'd have been saying that in 2014 Murray looks a very limited player.

Dunno what he can do. The drop shot would be stupid because he rarely executes it well and even if he did, Ferrer would be on it. Also, Ferrer's alright when dealing with sliced balls. Could he come in more? I'm not sure.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:27 pm

Good break there, now hopefully he can have a comfy hold of serve rather than the slogfest seen earlier.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:28 pm

A sloppy service game from Ferrer and Murray breaks to lead 2-1.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:29 pm

He's got such easy power on his forehand, its hard to understand why he was tipping-tapping it around in the first set (and still missing!). The strategy is now better albeit I agree with BB it should also be accompanied by some variation. Notable that as soon as Murray shows signs of over-powering him Ferrer plays an extremely poor game.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:30 pm

And here comes that trait I referred to earlier..... Rolling Eyes
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Post by lags72 Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:30 pm

A bad game there from Daveed but in general a lot of resilience and determination from him (as ever)

Still good enough even at 32 to beat anyone on his day (except the Fed ..... although he must get a win one day ....surely ....?). I wonder will Andy be such a tough proposition at the same sort of age ....?

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:31 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:And here comes that trait I referred to earlier..... Rolling Eyes

A bit harsh, that lob at 0-15 was mental.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:31 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Murray is just trying to hit harder. It's fine if they go in but it's hardly clever and there'll be unforced errors that will seem inexplicable but are actually caused by lack of variety.

In 2007 I'd not believe I'd have been saying that in 2014 Murray looks a very limited player.

Dunno what he can do.  The drop shot would be stupid because he rarely executes it well and even if he did, Ferrer would be on it.  Also, Ferrer's alright when dealing with sliced balls.  Could he come in more?  I'm not sure.
Go short, long, come in, stay back. Just do different things. So far every shot he plays with time is topspin, deep. Tedious.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:33 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:And here comes that trait I referred to earlier..... Rolling Eyes

A bit harsh, that lob at 0-15 was mental.

Perhaps but the tame start to the game set the trend.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:35 pm

Murray holds but not in the way I like to see.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:36 pm

bogbrush wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:
bogbrush wrote:Murray is just trying to hit harder. It's fine if they go in but it's hardly clever and there'll be unforced errors that will seem inexplicable but are actually caused by lack of variety.

In 2007 I'd not believe I'd have been saying that in 2014 Murray looks a very limited player.

Dunno what he can do.  The drop shot would be stupid because he rarely executes it well and even if he did, Ferrer would be on it.  Also, Ferrer's alright when dealing with sliced balls.  Could he come in more?  I'm not sure.
Go short, long, come in, stay back. Just do different things. So far every shot he plays with time is topspin, deep. Tedious.

I suppose he could also trying drawing Ferrer in and passing him.

Didn't think this watch would be your scene either Smile
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Post by LuvSports! Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:36 pm

What's that?

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:37 pm

Murrays going through the motions...again.

Where's the exciting Murray from 2011/2012??

Does he even want to make the Tour finals is the question.. Perhaps he's happy to sit outside the top 8 for the time being OK
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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:38 pm

I don't know but he doesn't seem comfortable on his forehand, 1 decent FH followed by tame. He CERTAINLY won't keep holding serve.
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Post by bogbrush Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:42 pm

The Special Juan wrote:.

Didn't think this watch would be your scene either Smile
I'm just flicking in & out. Other than a score update there's not much point watching.
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Post by Born Slippy Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:42 pm

What a shot!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 19 Oct 2014, 2:47 pm

Much more purpose about Andy now. Better.
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