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Post by hazharrison Sun 04 Jan 2015, 3:40 pm

Great piece by Shaun Brown here:

http://www.thefightcity.com/not-the-usual-suspects/

Who will have the best year?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun 04 Jan 2015, 5:32 pm

Galahad is in the wrong division unfortunately.......Fury has decent hand speed but lacks something...

Catterall impressed against stalker but looks Euro level at best...

Haven't seen everyone on the list..............But of the 7/8 I have seen...Wouldn't regard any of them as World beaters.......

but as most are young time is on their side.

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Post by hazharrison Sun 04 Jan 2015, 6:06 pm

I'm not sure Patterson gets past Glenn Foot.

Saunders should pick up a few domestic titles this year. Dickens will win a Lonsdale belt.

Galahad needs a big fight but he may struggle to land a world title shot.

Flanagan could be in line for a WBO title crack should he deal with Scott Cardle (which I think he'll manage) and so I'll go for him.

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Post by Coxy001 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 9:23 am

Galahad for me, but surprised you've left Eubank Jr off the list. Close decision loss against a guy with a shed load more experience and being thrown in the deep end again against Chudinov, have this feeling that once he tightens up a bit he'd beat BJS inside the next 2 years and have the more stellar career out of the two.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 11:17 am

Had a dream last night that Anthony Joshua wipes out a big name this year.

Just throwing that one out there.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 11:30 am

Eddie Chambers keeps calling him out on Twitter, and trying to tee him up against dope-head Whyte. Would like to see AJ take out both this year.

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Post by KingMonkey Mon 05 Jan 2015, 12:29 pm

Josh Warrington?

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Post by KingMonkey Mon 05 Jan 2015, 12:30 pm

If AJ doesn't take out White and Chambers (or better) this year then in my bokos he's stood still.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 12:51 pm

Whyte yes, but Chambers is a level ahead of anything AJ has fought to date.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:16 pm

Chambers has lost to any half decent slob he's faced...........

What's the point ??...

Joshua would knock Adamek out in two now..... so why feast on his leftovers....

The kid is going to needlessly tread water for two years because he's green...........and in two years time after fighting Chambers types.....He's still going to be just as green !!

There aren't any decent trialhorses around anymore...............No Ribalta's , Bugner's Tillis or Broad's.....

Might as well just try his luck now...He's 24 he'd learn more in a loss to Wlad than fighting muppets and winning............and he may just beat Wlad who isn't getting any younger..

Forget Khan - Brook...................Wlad v Joshua at Wembley would probably be as big as Groves- Froch 2......

and I'd give him a helluva chance...............Because I think Bruno would knock Straight-line-Wlad stiff in three or less..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:22 pm

If Wilder can have over 30 fights before challenging for a title, and think it's ok for AJ to 15+.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:24 pm

So you think Wilder has been well managed ??

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:26 pm

NOPE!!

My point being there are still fights he can learn off, before picking up a loss for the sake of it against Wlad.

E.g. Kingpin that he's about to fight.

Then there's the likes of TT, Arreloa, Big Daddy and even David Price.

Fights that present risk and challenge.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:32 pm

Wilder hasn't learn't anything in six and a half years...........

Disgrace he's gone from a young 23 to a near 30 year old and done sack all...

Tyson was a pro two years before the title............

Chambers will lie down for a cheque just like everyone else....

What did Frank Bruno learn ????............Joshua is a one dimensional big powerful heavy.......He's Bruno reborn and bigger.....

Chuck him in........

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 3:44 pm

An '0' is over-valued these days, as you well know, therefore why should AJ needlessly risk his??

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 4:16 pm

He'll have to risk it sometime.............

Why not as a fit, big, powerful 24 year old............

Why rust for two years........and waste two years of prime..

Won't be a different fighter in two years...Just two years older..

If he had opponents who could teach him anything I'd feel different...

It's slob City..............

0 isn't important in the Heavy division anyway..................Wlad and Vitali don't suffer because they haven't got the 0............

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 4:39 pm

I don't think he has to rust for 2 years, at the rate he's progressing & fighting, start 2016 would be fine.

And arguably Wlad does suffer because of his lack of an 0, his losses are the main thing he's beat up over.

Ironically Vit's arguably benefit him, as one was an injury/retirement so you could say shouldn't count and the other was to an ATG - against whom he performed very well and, some would say, was stopped controversially.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 4:44 pm

Wlad is already too high in most lists..........

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Post by KingMonkey Mon 05 Jan 2015, 5:23 pm

Another year of watching AJ as he is will be incredibly dull and Kevin Johnson offers zero threat too considering he doesn't throw punches.

Get him in the ring with a threat at least. Let him feel the build up to a bigger fight, one he could lose, even if the odds are in his favour (which they will be).

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 5:35 pm

Who can he lose to ??????

He beats the crap out of Fury, Price, Chisora easily now.......

Only tests are Stiverne, Wilder and Wlad......

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 5:38 pm

Kingpin isn't about threat. He's about rounds and learning.

He's a 'dark arts' fighter that AJ can learn a lot off, in terms of how to deal with someone difficult to land clean on, and he'll almost certainly go the distance - important for someone as muscled as AJ when there's serious gassing risk in later rounds.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 05 Jan 2015, 5:42 pm

Let's see how many rounds of learning we get..............

He's nearly 36 and a perennial loser who's lost his last 3....and has no motivation..

He'll take the money and run...........Nothing to gain by taking a beating..

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Post by AdamT Mon 05 Jan 2015, 6:35 pm

Joshua will stop Johnson in 6

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 05 Jan 2015, 6:42 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:I don't think he has to rust for 2 years, at the rate he's progressing & fighting, start 2016 would be fine.

And arguably Wlad does suffer because of his lack of an 0, his losses are the main thing he's beat up over.

Ironically Vit's arguably benefit him, as one was an injury/retirement so you could say shouldn't count and the other was to an ATG - against whom he performed very well and, some would say, was stopped controversially.

Got to ask Toppy, on what basis can any suggest that Vitali was stopped controversially, if anything he was stopped later than he should have been.

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Post by DuransHorse Mon 05 Jan 2015, 10:19 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:I don't think he has to rust for 2 years, at the rate he's progressing & fighting, start 2016 would be fine.

And arguably Wlad does suffer because of his lack of an 0, his losses are the main thing he's beat up over.

Ironically Vit's arguably benefit him, as one was an injury/retirement so you could say shouldn't count and the other was to an ATG - against whom he performed very well and, some would say, was stopped controversially.

Got to ask Toppy, on what basis can any suggest that Vitali was stopped controversially, if anything he was stopped later than he should have been.

Shocked the whole vit v lewis early stoppage debate didn't kick off from this. My thoughts are Lewis knew what he was doing and played it well, but I can see why the conclusion is unsatisfactory.

As for the list, I like Galahad is quite good but as mentioned, with Rigo, Frampton, and Cruz in your division it's tough for him. Saunders should be guided to a belt this year, good luck to him, but none will be superstars although I think a few will be champions on paper at least.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 06 Jan 2015, 8:58 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:I don't think he has to rust for 2 years, at the rate he's progressing & fighting, start 2016 would be fine.

And arguably Wlad does suffer because of his lack of an 0, his losses are the main thing he's beat up over.

Ironically Vit's arguably benefit him, as one was an injury/retirement so you could say shouldn't count and the other was to an ATG - against whom he performed very well and, some would say, was stopped controversially.

Got to ask Toppy, on what basis can any suggest that Vitali was stopped controversially, if anything he was stopped later than he should have been.

I should caveat that that's not MY opinion, at all, but I've been around these boards long enough to see it argued a plenty. Vit was winning the fight, Vit was fine to continue, Vit had stood up to Lennox's best shots and was still going strong, Lewis was saved by the stoppage......etc etc.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 06 Jan 2015, 12:54 pm

[quote="hazharrison"] I'm not sure Patterson gets past Glenn Foot [quote]

After the machette attack, Glenn's not the same fighter . He was made to work in his last fight , certainly, far harder than he would have before the horrific injury.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 06 Jan 2015, 4:36 pm

he's a mate of yours isnt he fingers... is it a physical or mental issue since the attack?

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Post by hazharrison Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:01 pm

Galahad busted for PEDS. Saunders busted his hand. Etches was busted by Khomitsky. I think Flanagan could come out top here but it's a tough ask against Zepeda.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:13 pm

Kid galahad is an unfortunate pick.........

Maybe we can put him on the 2018 list......

I think Hughie Fury  is a more polished boxer than his namesake..........If he had a dig I'd pick him to get to world level...

Unfortunately he hasn't got one..


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Post by Strongback Wed 08 Jul 2015, 3:15 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Kid galahad is an unfortunate pick.........

Maybe we can put him on the 2018 list......

I think Hughie Fury  is a more polished boxer than his brother..........If he had a dig I'd pick him to get to world level...

Unfortunately he hasn't got one..


Does Hughie Fury's brother box?

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:21 pm

Ryan Burnett wouldnt thank you for referring to him as a Brit btw

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Post by Scottrf Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:27 pm

It's a fact though.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:28 pm

How do you know what nationality Burnett has declared in a dual nationality state? You got inside info or something?

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Post by Scottrf Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:30 pm

You were complaining about TRUSSY being racist earlier and now are trying to stir it up?

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:31 pm

I am not stirring up anything, please explain. And do not blow this out of proportion because you are wrong.

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Post by Scottrf Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:33 pm

Natives of the UK are Brits. He's a Brit whether he wants to be or not.

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:34 pm

If he's from England,Scotland,Wales,Northern Ireland then he's a Brit. You can still have national pride and call yourself Scottish, English etc but your still a Brit.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:35 pm

Scottrf wrote:Natives of the UK are Brits. He's a Brit whether he wants to be or not.

lol!!!

Whether he wants to be or not....case closed.

Thanks Scott, genuinely brightened my day ! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

At least your honest mate! That is the general attitude. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:36 pm

Sorry Derby, but we have dual nationality in the North of Ireland. I am Irish mate, if you want I'll scan my passport?

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Post by Scottrf Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:37 pm

Please do.

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:38 pm

So your Irish and a Brit then (which is what dual nationality is)

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:38 pm

Thats the last I will say on the matter. I am back to talk boxing.

Apologies to the moderators if I crossed any lines, and apologies to Scott and Derby if I have hijacked your thread.

But just a little bit of respect for Irish nationals living in the North of Ireland is all that is asked for.

Cheers.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:39 pm

Nope, we can hold both or declare one or the other - Good Friday Agreement 1998 - read it if your that interested.

So a majority of nationalists declare as Irish.

Wrong again.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:40 pm

You are talking about stuff you know nothing about lads.

Lets just stick to boxing.

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Post by Derbymanc Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm

Think your being overly sensitive there, bit like the ones that moan about there not being an English,Scottish etc box to tick on forms.

Anyway, it's a topic for the off topic section (and would probably lead to it shutting down again Wink ) so will leave it there too.

Think Flanagans got the best chance to come into the spotlight but we do seem to have a lot of good youngsters coming through and if promoters would start matching the domestics 50/50ish then we'd have a brilliant scene.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:47 pm

Here:

"Irrespective of Northern Ireland's constitutional status within the United Kingdom, or part of a united Ireland, the right of people in Northern Ireland "to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both" (as well as their right to hold either or both British and Irish citizenship) was recognised. The two Governments also agreed, irrespective of the position of Northern Ireland"

Source: Good Friday Agreement, 1998

Smart Alecs, teaching me about my own country and politics.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:47 pm

Is the Flanagan fight on this weekend on Boxnation?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:58 pm

If the Northern Irish aren't Brits can we please send them the f*** off to Eire and let Ireland pick up their giant welfare and economic subsidy bill??

Make the UK just GB and we'll be all a damn site better off.

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Post by shenglong2015 Wed 08 Jul 2015, 4:59 pm

Tophat, do you know if the Flannagan fight is on Boxnation this weekend?

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