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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 14 Jan 2015, 3:11 pm

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Breaking News: Saints & Harlequins pick up strong bonus point wins while the battle for top 6 heats up with Gloucester & Saracens good form continuing. 
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:12 pm

Scarlets pack is awful.

Did you miss the prop throw Croft to one side? He's always been good in the loose but really struggles with the physical aspect, he's an extra back in essence and great when on top.

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:15 pm

Yawn tedious

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Post by Fluxy Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:18 pm

Like Richie Vernon as a centre now for Edinburgh

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:22 pm

Have to question the challenge cup with results like this

Not sure it benefits anyone


Maybe a need for a third tier tournament

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9648225,00.html

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:23 pm

Rob evans is one to watch. A real talent. Scrums well and gets about. Him Owens and lee has real potential.


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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:25 pm

Vernon played there originally and has the pace.

A lot of Backrow started centre and vice versa.

Remember Steffan Armitage playing wing and seeing tindall at 6 in years gone by

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:29 pm

Fluxy wrote:Like Richie Vernon as a centre now for Edinburgh

Exactly like that Flux.

Croft is fantastic when pack is in top as he's like an extra back, he thrives in games like this where the opposition psck is poor and he can join in with backs. He's not so great in a physical arm wrestle, he's not a physical player. This is hardly a new opinion of Croft, he's a luxury type player.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:31 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Rob evans is one to watch. A real talent. Scrums well and gets about. Him Owens and lee has real potential.
Throw young Nicky Smith in as well and Wales have some good options to develop going forward

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:45 pm

Can't be a luxury player and get on 2 lions tours and play england and leicester.

No such thing at top level.

Croft a big defender and good carrier. He breaks the mould and is not a conventional 6. That is not
A bad thing.

He got shrugged off one tackle today but made loads more others would not have been in positon to do. Saracens are one of the best defensive teams in the league yet have the highest amount of missed tackles. The reason is they challenge the ball and press. Stats pretty meaningless in Union for reasons such as this. Those
Who play understand that.

Kieron read is not a conventional 8
And neither was Hari.

Jason Robinson
Was not a conventional wing/Fb

As lancaster says you need an outstanding difference to be a top player.

Croft has that.
His lineout is world class as his is pace.
He defends well and asks questions of defences that other backrow don't.

With rugby so system based these days players
Who challenge defensive systems cause problems.

I am coaching scrum for southwest at moment and there is a 5 for them who breaks the mould. He is a nightmare as oppositions systems are based on each position playing a certain way.

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:46 pm

Good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/15/six-nations-england-squad-prediction-rugby-union

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 10:49 pm

Croft not a good carrier and very unphysical, he seems even less physical after injury lay off.

If that's breaking the mould and unconventional....great. You never rated him when you didn't have him Wink

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:07 pm

Always been a huge fan hence buying him.
I went to south africa and followed the 2009 lions so how could I not be a fan. He
Was fantastic over there and first choice. Was voted by SA fans as best lion

Find a quote where I knock him ?

Croft can have form issues as he is an explosive athlete
And like dynamic players
play well when 100% right .

He is a big game
Plauer.

Lots of nz players are similar. Kahui Nonu Dagg sbw etc need to be right to play.

Watch SBW not
At the races in AI's missing tackles
Or Dagg dropping high balls early in s15 season. Dynamic players need to be right to play

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:09 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Rob evans is one to watch. A real talent. Scrums well and gets about. Him Owens and lee has real potential.
Throw young Nicky Smith in as well and Wales have some good options to develop going forward

Yes he is a real prospect

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:21 pm

Another good article

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/14/england-danny-cipriani-nick-easter-stuart-lancaster

For me telegraph best rugby civerage but only allowed to view 20 articles without a subscription a month now if using a tablet.

Have a subscription
To times and rugby coaching sites.

Think most papers websites will become subscription which will mean we all miss out on articles.

Guardian rugby much improved. The rest of the paper is over censored tripe

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:25 pm

He was only in due to injuries.

Croft suits the hard pitches as he's fast and often in wide channels, he's just not a good 6 for a dog fight. If your pack is on top with 7 players he's ideal, such a threat out wide.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:28 pm

Croft is a good carrier in areas where you don't really need your 6 to be.

That said everyone loves a forwards running one in from 40m (well at least they should)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:32 pm

That said, Croft is no worse than Wood or Robshaw as a carrier.

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Post by BamBam Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:36 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/15/six-nations-england-squad-prediction-rugby-union

I did laugh at 'destructive scrummagers' then going on to pick Tom Youngs!

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He was only in due to injuries.

Croft suits the hard pitches as he's fast and often in wide channels, he's just not a good 6 for a dog fight. If your pack is on top with 7 players he's ideal, such a threat out wide.


Congratulations on the worst comment ever. Watch 2009
Lions tour. He was outstanding and in on merit.

Even though you knock everything I ever say you must agree with that ??!

I refuse to engage in your wums and just try and post facts rather than argue. It's tiresome. Try posting about rugby and maybe some articles that stimulate debate or about issues in coaching etc.

as you will notice its a forum and I post articles and coaching links and views about players and teams. All you do is disagree with my posts without ever adding anything about rugby.

If you need links to sites to read or general advice on rugby please get In touch

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:38 pm

BamBam wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/15/six-nations-england-squad-prediction-rugby-union

I did laugh at 'destructive scrummagers' then going on to pick Tom Youngs!

Tom Youngs is ok in scrum but Lineout .................

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:39 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Croft is a good carrier in areas where you don't really need your 6 to be.

That said everyone loves a forwards running one in from 40m (well at least they should)

Exactly Steve he challenges defensive systems as he is unconventional.

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Post by BamBam Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:40 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
BamBam wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Good article http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/15/six-nations-england-squad-prediction-rugby-union

I did laugh at 'destructive scrummagers' then going on to pick Tom Youngs!

Tom Youngs is ok in scrum but Lineout .................

Yeah he's not bad at scrum time, but hardly destructive. I actually think he isn't a bad thrower technically, but when he is off he is very off. Great in the loose though

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Post by Guest Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:46 pm

Bam he has meltdowns and that is due to his technique not being sound.

At top
Level the key is being able
To replicate a strong basic technique.

When it goes wrong he
Has nowt to fall back on.

For some reason I hate both Youngs brothers. They are so unintelligent in interviews and on the pitch. For some
Reason they get my goat !!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:52 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:He was only in due to injuries.

Croft suits the hard pitches as he's fast and often in wide channels, he's just not a good 6 for a dog fight. If your pack is on top with 7 players he's ideal, such a threat out wide.


Congratulations on the worst comment ever. Watch 2009
Lions tour. He was outstanding and in on merit.

Even though you knock everything I ever say you must agree with that ??!

I refuse to engage in your wums and just try and post facts rather than argue. It's tiresome. Try posting about rugby and maybe some articles that stimulate debate or about issues in coaching etc.

as you will notice its a forum and I post articles and coaching links and views about players and teams. All you do is disagree with my posts without ever adding anything about rugby.

If you need links to sites to read or general advice on rugby please get In touch

All I've discussed is rugby.

As normal you revert to personal attacks.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:56 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:That said, Croft is no worse than Wood or Robshaw as a carrier.

Robshaw is a much better carrier imo. Wood & Robshaw tend to do their carrying in the tight whilst Croft is often on the wings/wider channels so hard to compare. I prefer my forwards to be getting stuck in but see the merits of having an extra 6'6" winger at times. As I said before Croft can be extremley destructive if the forward battle is won.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Jan 2015, 11:58 pm

Matt, Croft got in due to Ferris injury if I remember right.

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:02 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Matt, Croft got in due to Ferris injury if I remember right.

Wrong ferris left tour first very early

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:04 am

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Matt, Croft got in due to Ferris injury if I remember right.

Wrong ferris left tour first very early

Ferris was nailed on 6 for that tour until injury. Croft would not have started 100% if Ferris was not injured

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:05 am

Oh yes ferris was favourite but more than likely at
8 as geech wanted him
There.
At their Best ferris is
Much better than croft. At his best ferris
Was one of best ever. Shame he got injured

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Post by BamBam Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:06 am

True, but that's no slight on Croft! Ferris was an unbelievable player, one of those cut short way too early. 

Would have been up in Irish rugby's all time greats if he had stayed fit

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Post by BamBam Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:08 am

Wasn't Croft only on the tour because Alan Quinlan got banned for something? Or am I mixing him up with someone else

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:09 am

Best player ever in my view is probably Michael jones( samoa and NZ). Seen ferris play games that were near to him.

Such a shame. He
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:09 am

Heaslip was fav for 8.

Croft was never really in contention until Ferris injury. Croft did have a great tour but as I said earlier he suits the hard pitches. He lightening quick and is destructive out wide.

Is he as effective when pitches are bogs and its a forward based game with pick and goes.....no.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:10 am

He replaced Quinlan I think.

Croft and Ferris were both in great nick on that tour.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:12 am

As was Heaslip who's never got near that level again. He was right up there with top 8's in world then.

Croft took advantage of Ferris injury, these things happen

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:13 am

Croft and Quinlan picked in original touring side but quinlan then banned and can't remember who came in. May have been ryan Jones

The second test is acknowledged as
The greatest game of rugby ever and was the best sporting event I have ever attended. sensational

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:13 am

Jones came in for Ferris I think

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:14 am

You are right croft replaced quinnlan remember being at the launch dinner when It happened at Celtic manor

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:17 am

Andy
Powell and shanklin were on that tour.

Remember being at first test in Durban where beast killed Vickery so badly Adam Jones came in.

To be fair if South africa had a proper coach and not pDV They would have walked
The series. He made crazy decisions/

The morne steyn goal
Kick in the second test is the best kick of all time

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Post by Fluxy Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:26 am

I think Sir Wilkinsom would have something to say about that…

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Post by BamBam Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:26 am

I don't know if I was just drunk at the time but I remember thinking Vickery was getting completely done over by the ref! Never watched that one again actually

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:33 am

Fluxy wrote:I think Sir Wilkinsom would have something to say about that…


My favourite kick ever as it won us the World Cup like the stransky dk. That steyn kick technically and pressure wise was much better

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:43 am

BamBam wrote:I don't know if I was just drunk at the time but I remember thinking Vickery was getting completely done over by the ref! Never watched that one again actually

He would agree with you on that. I think he struggled due to beast shape and his hooker having a mare.

I have known Vicks for 24 years and he is the least interested person in rugby you could meet. He rarely watches a game and prefers cricket and football. However he always mentions that lions test.

He has done most his badges and in
Process of finishing the others
And wants to go all the way but he has always been a bit disconnected from
The game.

Always had the attitude that its a sport but there is more to life. Apparently Sheridan the same and he did bricklaying mandarin guitar classes etc outside rugby to get away from it.

Vicks smoked roll ups all his life which is odd he now has one of those weird vapour things




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Post by BamBam Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:49 am

Did he start alongside Lee Mears then? It's the old undersized hooker thing, it's one reason I'm not a fan of Tom Youngs at scrum time

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:55 am

Yes it was mears. Hooker was a weak position. Flannery was retired and Rees on bench

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 12:56 am

The side



British and Irish Lions: Lee Byrne (Ospreys & Wales), Tommy Bowe (Ospreys & Ireland), Brian O'Driscoll (Leinster and Ireland), Jamie Roberts (Cardiff & Wales), Ugo Monye (Harlequins & England), Stephen Jones (Scarlets & Wales), Mike Phillips (Ospreys & Wales), Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff & Wales), Lee Mears (Bath & England), Phil Vickery (Wasps & England), Alun-Wyn Jones (Ospreys & Wales), Paul O'Connell (Munster & Ireland, capt), Tom Croft (Leicester & England), David Wallace (Munster & Ireland), Jamie Heaslip (Leinster & Ireland).

Replacements: Matthew Rees (Scarlets & Wales), Adam Jones (Ospreys & Wales), Donncha O'Callaghan (Munster & Ireland), Martyn Williams (Cardiff & Wales), Harry Ellis (Leicester & England), Ronan O'Gara (Munster & Ireland), Rob Kearney (Leinster & Ireland).

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 8:12 am

Mears wasn't a poor scrummager for me, he was just ok.

Vickery was unlucky in that game. Beast has she will never be a big scrummager, he was angled in for the whole of that match and got away with it. Vickers should have addressed it earlier really, fair play to Beast.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Jan 2015, 8:36 am

Wasps sign Frank Halai, good signing.

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 10:39 am

Halai is a great signIng. He is unlucky that in nz decent wingers are ten a penny.

Wasps have some smart people running them. Whilst I am against there move you have to say they are a club on the up.


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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jan 2015, 11:02 am

Saw a masterclass on this at an RFU development centre.

Greenwood explains it so much better than the guys who did the session i attended

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/european-rugby/11351592/Saracens-are-evolving-rugby-union-by-standing-still.html

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