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Post by Fernando Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:11 pm

First topic message reminder :

With Sky announcing their live games for the start of the Championship season i figured we could use a thread

Who do we think will head up and down this season?

August
Fri 7: Brighton & Hove Albion v Nottingham Forest (7.45pm)
Sat 8: Leeds United v Burnley (12.30pm)
Sun 9: Preston North End v Middlesbrough (12 noon)
Sun 16: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Hull City (12 noon)
Fri 21: Birmingham City v Derby County (7.45pm)
Sat 22: Leeds United v Sheffield Wednesday (12.30pm)
Fri 28: Blackburn Rovers v Bolton Wanderers (7.45pm)
Sat 29: Derby County v Leeds United (12.05pm)

September
Fri 11: Reading v Ipswich Town (8pm)
Sat 19: Nottingham Forest v Middlesbrough (12.30pm)
Fri 25: Fulham v Queen’s Park Rangers (7.45pm)

October
Fri 2 Oct: Rotherham United v Burnley (7.45pm)
Sat 3: Wolverhampton Wanderers v Huddersfield Town (12.30pm)

*Other games may be added.

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Post by GSC Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:55 am

Good win
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Post by GSC Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:39 pm

Steve Evans Laugh
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Post by Nico the gman Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:46 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Throwing it away dyre; just spent better part of 14 million on a striker...play him on the bench! ...amazing how we go 1 down...bring on a 2nd striker and immediately look more dangerous!

We will not go up if he keeps playing the 1 up top...teams are now realising we pose little threat from midfield and are finding the right balance to ensure the quick direct counter attacks that brought us success in the first third of the season are not available.
Spot on Owen got in the ground expecting to see Rhodes on from the start, Downing, Leadbitter and Adomah ( who I would have took off at half time) garbage, we have had 2 weeks off and come back worse than Forest game.

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Post by westisbest Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:06 pm

Gardner almost scoring another cracking goal.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:15 pm

Better get myself reacquainted with this thread ahead of next season

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Post by GSC Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:55 pm

Gardner is class
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Post by westisbest Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:08 pm

He is indeed.
Another player who we should be keeping hold of.

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Post by GSC Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:36 pm

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:59 am

Gardner is awful.

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Post by westisbest Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:50 pm

Another great comment from you nick.

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Post by Fernando Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:01 pm

"This post was made by NickisBHAFC who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post."

If you foe him you will see this lovely message.

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Post by westisbest Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:17 pm

is that for me nando?

if so, bit sad, just cos we dont agree on a few things.

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Post by Fernando Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:23 pm

It's up to you fella. I did it ages ago cos unlike you i suspect he doesn't annoy you in various other sections Laugh

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Post by westisbest Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:34 pm

ah no bother. OK

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:48 pm

Nick had cut out making silly comments for attention. Suspect some might be interested if it becomes a trend again
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:17 pm

Lets not. Westi is arguably the most mature person on this forum, he doesn't need either you two or me bringing him down to our level.

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Post by Nico the gman Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:44 am

dyrewolfe wrote:Wow this is grim. Over an hour played and still not a single shot on target. Also committing too many fouls for my liking.

Do we actually want to get promoted?
I know you thought I was harsh singling out Downing & Leadbitter, this is their stats in 28 games so far, and I will put in Clayton just for good measure.

Downing    goals 3 assists 4
Leadbitter goals 2 (pens) assists 1
Clayton    goals 1 assist 0

This is the reason we struggle to break teams down and rarely hammer anyone, those stats from our midfield are pathetic.

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Post by GSC Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:15 pm

Clement gone
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:45 pm

CV already sent for Bayern's assistant managers position for next year

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Post by GSC Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:50 pm

The bib collector to the stars!

I don't get it, but that's modern football
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Post by GSC Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:23 pm

"It means Derby County want to remain a small club. It is childish." - Carlo Ancelotti on Paul Clement sacking

Always knew I loved Carlo for a reason.
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Post by Crimey Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:26 pm

Apparently it was due to the style of football not fitting the 'Derby way'. For God's sake, does every club have a 'way' now?

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Post by GSC Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:29 pm

I've heard that and he didn't bring through enough kids.

In reality, they're absolutely ****ed if FFP stays in place and the new owner got itchy feet.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:57 pm

We should never have started all this "way" stuff

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:49 pm

Absolute joke of a club. I really hope they don't go up for several reasons and this is another reason now!

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Post by Nico the gman Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:52 pm

Derby hierarchy are idiots, if we don't go up, anyone but Derby,talk about knee jerk reaction pathetic!

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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:30 am

Maybe they can get Paul Ince as manager.
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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:10 am

MM: "If I'd been picking the team we probably wouldn't have played some of those players. I don't regret going in the dressing room." #dcfc

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:22 am

Nico the gman wrote:Derby hierarchy are idiots, if we don't go up, anyone but Derby,talk about knee jerk reaction pathetic!

Hell of it is the Derby board themselves have publicly stated promotion was not a priority this season...what a bunch of clowns! picard

Okay 7 games without a win isn't great, but they are still 5th and only 5 points off the top.


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We should never have started all this "way" stuff

You mean you've never heard of "The Way of the Ram"? Wink
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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:37 am

I have decided to apply for the Derby managers job, I fit the profile for the following reasons.

1. I ran a local football team and we finished 3rd and 4th in the league just missing out on promotion which was never ever my priority.

2. More importantly I always emphasised to my players that they must play the Derby way, I can't let anybody know what that style of football is because its a secret.

What more does Mel Morris want I should be nailed on, I 100% FIT THE PROFILE, wish me luck Laugh

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:39 am

Hah!

Just as long as you don't have them finish above Boro! raspberry
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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:41 am

To be fair, at just 5 points outside the top 2, Clement was dangerously close to failing the objective of not being promoted
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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:03 am

dyrewolfe wrote:Hah!

Just as long as you don't have them finish above Boro! raspberry
Mel Morris has stated that promotion was not the main priority, so Derby top 10, and then I'll resign due to my football loyalties lying elsewhere.

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:23 am

I like your thinking! thumbsup


While I remember, a quick "c'mon Boro", as they travel to MK Dons tonight. Shame its a midweek, evening kick-off, otherwise I would have gone (being reasonably local).

We often play better away from home and MK's form has been patchy at best all season, so I'm expecting a win...ugly or otherwise...
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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:46 am

dyrewolfe wrote:I like your thinking! thumbsup


While I remember, a quick "c'mon Boro", as they travel to MK Dons tonight. Shame its a midweek, evening kick-off, otherwise I would have gone (being reasonably local).

We often play better away from home and MK's form has been patchy at best all season, so I'm expecting a win...ugly or otherwise...
Karanka stated there would be changes for the MK Dons game, and blamed Kike Solas poor performance on 5 or 6 of our other players not performing, so that would be the whole of the midfield and one other then.

I hope we go to MK Dons with a more positive attacking approach, and not safety first tactics, Rhodes and Ramirez have got to play from the off, anything other than 3 points is a bad result.

One positive note from Saturday, De Laet played well, and has a lot of pace bombing down the wing, looked comfortable on the ball.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:57 am

westisbest wrote:Another great comment from you nick.

We had him on loan last season and he was terrible. Admittedly he was played under the worst manager in football league history, Sami Hyypia. However he isn't a good player though, not for championship standard anyway.

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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:02 pm

I do love that they sacked a manager for short termism after he guided the team to 5 points off top in 6 months.
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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:10 pm

I mean, I really don't get any of that.

Promotion isn't the aim after you spend nearly 30m?

Hes supposed to bring through kids yet you sanction 12 signings for the first team squad?

You want to take a long term view to running the club, yet sack a manager in 6 months?

Add to the fact he seemingly thinks he could do a better job picking the XI than a guy whos won the CL as a #2 to the best manager in the world, and it all gets a bit silly.

As I say though, the reality is if they don't go up, FFP is gonna crush them (or should, I have no real confidence in it) and he got itchy feet with the team in freefall after last years choke.
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Post by westisbest Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:54 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:
westisbest wrote:Another great comment from you nick.

We had him on loan last season and he was terrible. Admittedly he was played under the worst manager in football league history, Sami Hyypia. However he isn't a good player though, not for championship standard anyway.

So he was terrible for Brighton, doesnt mean he is terrible overall.

Has done well at Forest as far as im aware, am sure GSC will know best.

Doing well for Villa till he had those injuries.

Definaltly good enough for the championship.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:18 pm

Theres a reason Gardner is a massive fan favorite here after about half a season.
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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:39 pm

Paul's horizon was shorter term than ours. With all good intent I think Paul had a slightly different view.

"He was the one who wanted promotion this season


Jesus I didn't even read that part
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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:51 pm

1-0 down 71% possession 1st half and 1 shot on target, booed off at half time by over 2000 Boro fans, and our £9 mill striker Rhodes on the bench again, Karanka is losing the plot I'm afraid.

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Post by GSC Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:58 pm

Replace him with someone who wants to be promoted
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Post by owen10ozzy Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:24 pm

Unbelievable stuff!! Agreed Karanka has lost it.....we knew he was stubborn but this takes the absolute biscuit!! This will be no win in 6 with 5 defeats I believe. Our huge lack of creativity is killing us and it's even worse because he will not budge from this 4-5-1!! So so frustrated right now...if he doesn't change it soon (I mean within 1 game) then I'm afraid it won't matter as our confidence will be shot to pieces! I remember last time we were top at Xmas....Mowbray was in charge and we finished 16th!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:29 pm

The Middlesbrough choke much like the derby one, always amusing
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Post by owen10ozzy Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:35 pm

Weren't Norwich flying high and full of praise till a month ago...not so rosy now...

Our choke is frustrating as we have the squad to win this league but a manager whose stubbornness, nay arrogance actually is costing us

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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:43 pm

Rhodes 1-1 93rd minute

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:45 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Weren't Norwich flying high and full of praise till a month ago...not so rosy now...

Our choke is frustrating as we have the squad to win this league but a manager whose stubbornness, nay arrogance actually is costing us

I'm not sure you can call 17th flying high tbf
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Post by Nico the gman Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:52 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Weren't Norwich flying high and full of praise till a month ago...not so rosy now...

Our choke is frustrating as we have the squad to win this league but a manager whose stubbornness, nay arrogance actually is costing us
Manager is going to blow it for us, despite this point tonight, and your totally right about the managers arrogance it beggars belief.

No disrespect to fans on here,but with this squad, we should be walking this league.

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:04 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Unbelievable stuff!! Agreed Karanka has lost it.....we knew he was stubborn but this takes the absolute biscuit!! This will be no win in 6 with 5 defeats I believe. Our huge lack of creativity is killing us and it's even worse because he will not budge from this 4-5-1!! So so frustrated right now...if he doesn't change it soon (I mean within 1 game) then I'm afraid it won't matter as our confidence will be shot to pieces! I remember last time we were top at Xmas....Mowbray was in charge and we finished 16th!


Maybe in all competitions but league-wise its no win in 4. 2 draws and 2 defeats, which isn't quite so bad in the context of our overall season. Its also enough to put us top, though we now have the same number of games played as Hull, so no cushion.

Thats the positives. On the flip side, another game where we dominated possession and actually created enough chances to score 3-4 goals...yet it was down to another last-gasp equaliser to secure a point. Probably our best overall performance of the last 4 games...only the small but important matter of being able to stick the ball in the net was missing. Still not good enough if Boro are serious about getting promoted.

I'm also concerned at how easily we seem to be conceding goals too. Time was when our defence - and Dimi in particular - were a virtually impenetrable wall. Is it because of AKs revolving door policy with our starting line-ups? You would think, having been a world-class defender himself, Karanka would be able to sort that one out...then again a lot of us thought the same about Mowbray.
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