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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 1:51 pm

I don't see a match thread, so here one is.

This is a tough one to call, could go either way although I think Ireland have the edge on paper.

Wales: H Amos (Newport Gwent Dragons); A Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), T Morgan (Newport Gwent Dragons), S Williams (Scarlets, capt), E Walker (Ospreys); J Hook (Gloucester Rugby), M Phillips (Racing Metro); N Smith (Ospreys), R Hibbard (Gloucester), A Jarvis (Ospreys), J Ball (Scarlets), D Day (Bath Rugby), R Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), J Tipuric (Ospreys, vice-capt), D Baker (Ospreys).

Replacements: R Evans (Scarlets), K Dacey (Cardiff Blues), S Andrews (Cardiff Blues), J King (Ospreys), T Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons), Ll Williams (Cardiff Blues), G Anscombe (Cardiff Blues), M Morgan (Bristol Rugby).


Ireland: F Jones (Munster); A Trimble (Ulster), K Earls (Munster), D Cave (Ulster), F McFadden (Leinster); P Jackson (Ulster), E Reddan (Leinster); J McGrath (Leinster), R Strauss (Leinster), M Ross (Leinster); I Henderson (Ulster), D Ryan (Munster); J Murphy (Leinster), T O'Donnell (Munster), J Heaslip (Leinster, capt).

Replacements: R Best (Ulster), D Kilcoyne (Munster), M Bent (Leinster), D Tuohy (Ulster), C Henry (Ulster), K Marmion (Connacht), I Madigan (Leinster), S Zebo (Munster).
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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 1:53 pm

After watching Australia defeat NZ and win the rugby championship I am hoping Wales perform well this afternoon as I think the odds of us getting out of the group are not improving at the moment.

Looking forward to seeing how the backline and backrow goes against a pretty solid Irish pack.
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Post by Guest Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:04 pm

Agree regarding Australia, but then look at four years ago, Australia winning the Tri-Nations, but then getting beaten by Ireland (and, arguably, South Africa as well). The style of play will be very different in the Northern Hemisphere Autumn, and will benefit Wales and England.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:29 pm

Difficult to asses either team since they're a scratch combination.

First 10-15 mins will tell a lot.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:34 pm

Wales quicker to the breakdown and contesting.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:43 pm

Weak, weak defence
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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:44 pm

Very little intensity from Wales so far, lots of players walking back.

This could be embarrassing now.
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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:47 pm

Moriarty and Baker can't hold onto the ball.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:48 pm

Is this on TV anywhere?

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:50 pm

Dom Day has been impressive. Wales are yet to gel.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:51 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Is this on TV anywhere?

BBC 2 Wales and online - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/rugby-union/33764595
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm

Bbc Wales Sam

978 on Sky

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Post by profitius Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:52 pm

Earls having a nightmare so far.
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:55 pm

Scot Williams looking a bit rusty

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:58 pm

Thanks guys

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:58 pm

Hibbard and Phillips the only Welsh players doing well.

That try was literally a walk over
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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 2:59 pm

Earls is having such a nightmare and then almost makes up for it with some sublime footwork.
Wales will get into gear soon, they won't take this lying down.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:01 pm

Just idiot play from Wales so far, I didn't expect this team to play so stupidly. Also, anyone notice how the Ireland players are more tanned? That's a first...

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:04 pm

0-22 picard

Wales having a shocker. Composure and patience nowhere to be seen. Ireland have been clinical, though poor Welsh defence and unforced errors in key positions is giving them the ideal platform.

Cricket score alert. This is why you don't throw a load of kids together without so much as an established leader among them.


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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:05 pm

Well that was poor. Good from Earls, he hasn't been as bad as made out, he's been good.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:05 pm

Basically a Hook intercept.

This is going to be bad.

Think there will be some changes at halftime.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:07 pm

Hook is having an absolute shocker. His kicking is too far, decision-making is poor, and keeps running like he's as big as Jamie Roberts.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:09 pm

What changes would you make? It isn't exactly a bench that can make a difference. I'd sub Hook for sure though.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:10 pm

No organisation in attack, no organisation in defence.

I know they are playing for individual places, but at the moment they are playing as individuals.
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Post by nathan Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:12 pm

just tuned in and didnt expect to see that score, wonder if its just the usual Wales slow start and we'll see a much improved game in ireland

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:12 pm

Wales can't make a touch without voiding their bowels.

Btw, how does anyone even play with the idea of Hook starting for Wales anymore? Even with his experience and in a team of boys he can't control games for jack.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:12 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:What changes would you make? It isn't exactly a bench that can make a difference. I'd sub Hook for sure though.

Definitely sub Hook, he is not going to the World Cup and Anscombe needs game time.

Also put Faletau on, pity there isn't more experience on the bench in case this happened - Would be good to bring on Warburton, Paul James, B.Davies.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:12 pm

That was needed haha.

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Post by Notch Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:13 pm

Hope Trimble is ok...
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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:13 pm

nathan wrote:just tuned in and didnt expect to see that score, wonder if its just the usual Wales slow start and we'll see a much improved game in ireland

It will be a better team in Ireland, and they will probably have played more rugby. I don't think this team have been playing much with a ball.
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Post by Jaysus Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:15 pm

What a difference a try makes haha!

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:15 pm

Ireland seem to be getting away with high tackles...or am I being harsh?

That was good from the boys BTW, especially Phillips, Amos and Walker.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:17 pm

Ooooh, so so close.

Really could use it :/

Well done Mike Phillips though, some much needed leadership from him there.
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Post by nathan Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:18 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Ireland seem to be getting away with high tackles...or am I being harsh?

That was good from the boys BTW, especially Phillips, Amos and Walker.

I've only just tuned in so couldn't comment on the half, but i thought i just spotted a marginal one on the Welsh right attacking wing

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:19 pm

In the world cup squad : Phillips

Out of the world cup squad : Hook

Impressive : Amos, Walker

Mixed : Richard Hibbard

Unimpressive : Everyone else
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Post by Notch Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm

I want Ireland to win of course, but you can't help but feel that would have been a wonderful try if he had managed to finish it off.
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:20 pm

What the hell have these boys been doing pre season, the forwards have been weak, the backs have been working with poor ball and under presure.

Well played so far by Ireland their experience is showing.

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Post by profitius Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:23 pm

Notch wrote:Hope Trimble is ok...

Indeed. Would be a big blow if its a serious injury.
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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:26 pm

"Ireland seem to be getting away with high tackles...or am I being harsh?"

It's OK though it's balanced by Wales diving into rucks off their feet at will Wink

Fingers and everything else crossed for Trimble.

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Post by nathan Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:32 pm

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:33 pm

It's an awful Wales jersey IMO.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:34 pm

606, don't you think our locks have been decent? Based on this and past games I'd go with Ball and Day over Davies. Day has been particularly impressive earning his first cap.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:37 pm

Moriarty up to his old tricks...

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Post by nathan Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:40 pm

hmmmm, not sure how that decision sits with me.

he did make contact with a swinging arm, but it looked like it was an honest attempt to make a tackle and it was because Zebo was falling to the ground.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:41 pm

Yeah looking at the replay I thought that was harsh. Slightly clumsy perhaps, and made to look a lot worse as Zebo fell into it.

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:42 pm

It wouldn't be just to vindicate this selection and this performance by watching another minute. Enjoy the try-fest Ireland.

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:43 pm

Another very easy try for Ireland
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Post by nathan Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:43 pm

It was Irelands lineout due the ball being ripped out of the tackle and then went into touch

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:44 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:606, don't you think our locks have been decent? Based on this and past games I'd go with Ball and Day over Davies. Day has been particularly impressive earning his first cap.

Not bad, but as with Hibbard we have lost 2 lineouts on our own 5m line, do that in a close game and it could easily cost us the match.
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Post by marty2086 Sat 08 Aug 2015, 3:44 pm

nathan wrote:hmmmm, not sure how that decision sits with me.

he did make contact with a swinging arm, but it looked like it was an honest attempt to make a tackle and it was because Zebo was falling to the ground.

He didnt help himself by the fact he launched into the tackle, if it wasnt for Zebo falling it might have been worse as he made minimal contact

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