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Styles - Good fighters you'd pick to beat great ones in their primes !!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:54 am

Breland W12 Mayweather.......
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6ft 1 Olympian who had a decent pro career !!...... Starling said about him "His jab was as powerful as most men's hooks.....The first Breland fight was the most hurt I've ever felt"...Before the 11th the defensively adept Starling was ten points, nine points down on two cards..six on the other............I'd pick Breland to beat Floyd at 147 everytime even in their primes...Floyd who isn't much of a puncher would have a puncher's chance..

Bruno  vs  Wlad.......
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Watched a highlight reel with the straight punching Bruno against straight up straight line fighters like Eklund.........It wasn't for the squeamish..Yes Wlad is hugely more talented than the swede but his style is pretty similar.. Wlad hasn't got much of a chin either...

Is Wlad better than frank yes...But stylistically he's made for him at anytime...........Bruno everytime..

Starling v Manny
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......Moans and groans that Trussy has mentioned Marlon twice.............But an in and out Manny woukld be counter punched to death........Starling turned up in big fights and perhaps should have been given a draw in Curry 2...

Stylistically Starling munches on Manny..

Hamed vs Gomez at 122..........
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Arguably the greatest 122 pounder of alltime would have found Hamed a nightmare....Powerful, slick and Gomez was not hard to hit.....I can't see him dealing with Naz..

Nunn v Jones Jr at 160......
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If Nunn's prime was the Tate fight simply he beats every middle in history for me......


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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:57 am

Vitali vs Holyfield, to big keeps the brave Holyfield at the end of his jab.

James Toney vs Hagler. Think he could outsmart Marvin and confuse him with his style.

Must think of more. Good thread.

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Post by Scottrf Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:59 am

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Bruno  vs  Wlad.......
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Which one is the great fighter?

Mayweather vs Forrest I've always found an interesting one.

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:00 am

Or Mayweather vs Winky

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Post by Scottrf Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:03 am

Not sure about that, but would definitely be a borefest.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:05 am

Scottrf wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Bruno  vs  Wlad.......
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Which one is the great fighter?

Mayweather vs Forrest I've always found an interesting one.

Fair to say Wlad is going to be a great heavy with his longevity whether we believe he's a top heavy or not..

........Forrest v May is a good one.......The Randy Turpin of the modern era..

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:12 am

Forrest is a good one, but I really think Winky was the one that could of beat Floyd. Not saying he WOULD of, but he had that defensive style with a reach to match Floyd.

Very awkward guy to beat. Would of been a boring fight, but would of be curious to see who had won, had these guys fought around 06-07.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:15 am

Esteban Dejesus vs Julio cesar chavez at 135.............

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:16 am

He beat Duran so why not.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:22 am

Styles making fights......You can have someones number but not someone elses..

Enough in the Duran fights and others to see he'd be a stylistic nightmare for JCC.

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:25 am

Witherspoon vs the brothers.

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:29 am

Heavyweights are easy.

Haye vs Marciano
Valuev vs Marciano. Sh1t giant probably beats small heavyweight.

Doubt Dempsey could stand toe to toe with Tua.


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Post by hazharrison Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:32 am

There are any number of good fighters I'd pick to beat Klitschko including: Ron Lyle, Cleveland Williams and Razor Ruddock.

Klitschko isn't a great fighter, though.

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Post by hazharrison Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:34 am

I'd have given Paul Williams every chance against Mayweather at 147.


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Post by Scottrf Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:35 am

Most inaccurate boxer ever against best defence of his generation. I'm not so sure.

He would give him problems with his workrate though.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:37 am

Williams would have a chance to be fair..............To me though Breland was a similar but better allround fighter than Paul...

Breland has to be up there with Hearns with one of the best jabs in the welter division..

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Post by hazharrison Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:46 am

Scottrf wrote:More inaccurate boxer ever against best defence of his generation. I'm not so sure.

He would give him problems with his workrate though.

Yep. He'd be throwing more leather than Maidana but from a much higher vantage point (even though he tended to fight small). Stylistic nightmare for Mayweather (who usually picks flat-footed come-forward types).

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Post by AdamT Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:47 am

Floyd would need to up his own work rate to beat Williams. I do agree, it would be a tough fight for sure.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:49 am

I imagine there are plenty of average/good boxers you think would give Floyd a nightmare....

I think Kalambay might have Hoppo's number at 160.............especially in Italy... Wink

But over 12....

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Post by Scottrf Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:50 am

hazharrison wrote:
Scottrf wrote:More inaccurate boxer ever against best defence of his generation. I'm not so sure.

He would give him problems with his workrate though.

Yep. He'd be throwing more leather than Maidana but from a much higher vantage point (even though he tended to fight small). Stylistic nightmare for Mayweather (who usually picks flat-footed come-forward types).
His jab wasn't brilliant either. It might be one of those fights where Mayweather leads with the straight right quite often. Might discourage the punches from flowing.

One thing you do see is these high output boxers drastically cut their workrate when they step up in class. Nobody throws 100+ vs Floyd.

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Post by Coxy001 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:51 am

Wayne McCullough gives Frampton total and utter fits.

If he'd been around today's domestic guys (Quigg, Frampton, McDonnell if he steps up) then that for me is chicken choking material.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:53 am

Coxy001 wrote:Wayne McCullough gives Frampton total and utter fits.

If he'd been around today's domestic guys (Quigg, Frampton, McDonnell if he steps up) then that for me is chicken choking material.


Couldn't beat average fighters like zaragoza

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Post by hazharrison Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:55 am

Coxy001 wrote:Wayne McCullough gives Frampton total and utter fits.

If he'd been around today's domestic guys (Quigg, Frampton, McDonnell if he steps up) then that for me is chicken choking material.

McCullough was at his best as a bantamweight. Frampton too big, too powerful and too good (and I love Wayne).

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Post by Coxy001 Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:42 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Coxy001 wrote:Wayne McCullough gives Frampton total and utter fits.

If he'd been around today's domestic guys (Quigg, Frampton, McDonnell if he steps up) then that for me is chicken choking material.


Couldn't beat average fighters like zaragoza

Almost made Morales quit in their fight and said he was one of his toughest fights.

And Barrera couldn't beat average guys like Junior Jones, Lewis got knocked out by the woeful Rahman. Blah blah blah etc etc etc.

Wayne would be good enough to catch Frampton, if he can give the likes of Hamed and Morales a serious run for their money then I fail to see why he wouldn't give Frampton a run for his money who isn't Whitaker in defence and simply isn't on the same level as those mentioned previously.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:45 pm

I watched Wayne McCullough mate...............

Turpin beat Robbo blah blah blah.. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Lance Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:40 am

I think Williams would still throw 100 plus a round against Mayweather. He couldnt help himself.

Think Margarito would have been worse for Flloyd though. Constant body shots, can cut a ring off on his day and Floyyds punches wouldnt be able to deter him.

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