Season 8 Homepage II

by Fluxy Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:25 pm

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Breaking News: London Wasps regain their crown following playoff final victory.

Season 8 Homepage II - Page 9 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2014/2015 – London Wasps

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Bath Rugby	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	Exeter Chiefs	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	Gloucester	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	Harlequins	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	Leicester Tigers	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	London Irish	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	London Wasps	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	Newcastle Falcons	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
9	Northampton Saints	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10	Sale Sharks	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
11	Saracens	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
12	Worcester Warriors	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.

Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by BamBam Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:24 am

Who on earth is the third scrum half??

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:29 am

Boks are struggling a bit at 9 really. If FDP doesn't fire none of their other options are that great/in form.

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:41 am

AmaZed ousthuizen is in as he was injured and told would not play in World Cup. He is always bench at least so good news for them but he must lack fitness.

Coetzee is injured I believe?

Reinarch struggled this year after making his break through. Fdp been told he is first choice.

Kirchner and kolisi definite quota picks

by Fluxy Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:05 pm

Sorry guys I've been away in Valencia the past week!

by prop_lyd Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:02 pm

Good start for wales, pack intensity fantastic. Fair play Francis doing very well so far, will wait an see how his fitness does now

by LukeLovesLuka Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:13 pm

How bad is Owens throwing?

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:19 pm

Bad time to concede for Wales! Henderson the only one standing up physically for Ireland. Lacking carriers across the backs

by prop_lyd Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:20 pm

Yeah, wales have actually carried better than I thought up front! Not sure if Henderson got that down to be honest

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:24 pm

What channel ?

by prop_lyd Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:26 pm

On sky matt

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:28 pm

Cool I am in Spain and had forgotten. Wifi great so will get it on:

Cheers prop

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:44 pm

Henderson been great in the bit I have watched. Wales near full strength but Ireland missing a few key players.

Sob, Healy, best key players not playing. McGrath is awful in the tight but so good round the park

Bradley Davies and tipuric looking sharp

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:45 pm

Assuming that is McGrath at 1? The Wales lineout patchy as ever

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:47 pm

Great kick sexton.front foot ball is key.
Ireland clearing ruck really well

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:51 pm

Tipuric and Henderson best playes on the pitch by a country mile. McGrath much improved at the set piece Matt in the last year and has been strong again today.

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:01 pm

Only seen 2 nd half but McGrath been awful in tight. As a coach you could point out about a million faults with his work in Maul and scrum. His body position and waiting for his opposite number to lead the engagement is pub level.

Great around the park. Carries well and his defence across
The park is astonishing.

England have at least ten better looseheads in the tight

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:12 pm

10 better LHs? Rolling Eyes

McGrath was central to Irelands lineout defence the whole 6 nations and has held his own in the scrum all year. His maul work has always been impressive.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:29 pm

Welsh defensive performance immense. Tipuric was everywhere and well deserved man of match. Will be worried about the 2nd half fall off at the lineout.

Good blow out for a few Irish lads who looked rusty. Think Fitzy played himself out of the squad though if Earls is fit. Henderson making a play for a starting role.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:31 pm

Also last game in Ireland for POC. What a legend that man is.

by prop_lyd Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:58 pm

Happy with that game, on edge at the end. Think we need to somehow get tips and warbs on same team. Francis did well but ran out of steam at 50mins, that boy has potential. Geth and tips were immense. To be honest I think Cuthbert's number is up with Amos doing more in 15mins than he did.

Great warm up for both sides Henderson really stood up well as did Murphy. Hope Earls is alright mind.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:38 pm

Not seen any rugby. How did Francis go? 50mins was always going to be mark until he gets Int fit. How was his scrummaging and work around the park?

by BamBam Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:19 pm

How did Jordi Murphy do?

by Guest Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:02 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Not seen any rugby. How did Francis go? 50mins was always going to be mark until he gets Int fit. How was his scrummaging and work around the park?

Against McGrath he did ok. It is a gentle introduction as McGrath is garbage.
His round the field contribution was poor but you want your tight head to be a scrummager first and then other things come in.

Personally think Francis will become top drawer. McGrath is unselectable in most countries but Ireland struggle in that position.

by Fluxy Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:28 pm

McGrath is a loosehead though mate?

Francis looked like he was blowing after fifty minutes

by ChequeredJersey Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:30 pm

tbf, the TH does go against the LH

Think you're being harsh on McGrath, Matt

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 30, 2015 4:58 am

McGrath is hardly garbage lol

If you think McGrath is bad, how low do you rate Rob Evans who's not as strong in the set piece??

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:47 am

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Not seen any rugby. How did Francis go? 50mins was always going to be mark until he gets Int fit. How was his scrummaging and work around the park?

Against McGrath he did ok. It is a gentle introduction as McGrath is garbage.
His round the field contribution was poor but you want your tight head to be a scrummager first and then other things come in.

Personally think Francis will become top drawer. McGrath is unselectable in most countries but Ireland struggle in that position.

Ireland have their best depth at LH for years with Healy, McGrath & Kilcoyne. McGrath been Irelands 1st choice for the last year basically with Healy injured and held his own against everyone. Matt just seems to have some vendetta against him for some reason.

Thought Francis went well for 30 minutes or so but impact lessened at the scrum after that and didn't do much around the park Pooly. Murphy was very quiet Bam. Didn't really see him at the breakdown and didn't make much yardage ball in hand. Was the weakest performance of the backrowers on show for me.

Reports on Earls say he was all right. Will have to follow concussion protocols but seemed ok after the game.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:02 am

All Blacks squad named:

Forwards: Tony Woodcock, Wyatt Crockett, Owen Franks, Charlie Faumuina, Ben Franks, Dane Coles, Keven Mealamu, Codie Taylor, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Jerome Kaino, Liam Messam, Richie McCaw (c), Sam Cane, Kieran Read, Victor Vito

Backs: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Dan Carter, Beauden Barrett, Colin Slade, Ma'a Nonu, Sonny Bill Williams, Conrad Smith, Malakai Fekitoa, Waisake Naholo, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Julian Savea, Ben Smith

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:10 am

Hardly a vendetta Johnny as I said his work rate and coverage of the pitch is top drawer but he is dross in the tight. Assume he is a converted prop as his body positions and set up are frankly all wrong. He is obviously super strong to be able to prop with his lack of technique at that level.

Watch corbisero,Marler or woodcock ( fantastic scrummaging technique and body positions) and then compare it to McGrath and I am pretty sure you will agree.

He is nearly 26 so you would assume he could improve a little but he is near to entering his peak years as a prop so should not get that many gains.

A decent impact sub but for me a poor starter.

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:12 am

Fair squad.
Dagg not picked is fair enough as he has not done enough. Naholo makes it after injury.
TKB a surprise but NZ don't really have another 3rd scrum half with Weber not ready yet

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:20 am

If any of NZ starting front row get injured they are in trouble. So little depth there. Glittering attacking talent though but maybe lack a kicking game after carter in that backline.

They will score a lot of points

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:33 am

Matt you slated him through the 6 nations when he was one of the best performing LHs in the comp, you said there were 10 better English LHs, then called him garbage and unselectable for most international sides. Held his own against Cole, Slimani, Castro & JDP in the last year but is dross in your eyes?

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:39 am

Naholo a quick healer. Wouldn't mind meeting that medicine man of his!

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:51 am

I don't rate him at all but it's hardly a vendetta.

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:52 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11833275/Rugby-World-Cup-2015-England-turn-to-Geoff-Parling-to-solve-line-out-woes.html

Very alarming that we don't know our best side when we are less 3 weeks away from RWC

by BamBam Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:56 am

Seems like overkill to get both Parling and Wood in, I hope it doesn't weaken us too much around the park, especially considering the impact that Launchbury can have when at full fitness

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just pick a hooker who can throw!

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:01 am

anonmattyt wrote:I don't rate him at all but it's hardly a vendetta.

Any time you mention McGrath you completely slate his set piece work. Haven't seen you give him credit for it once yet considering his performances in the last year

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:13 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:I don't rate him at all but it's hardly a vendetta.
Any time you mention McGrath you completely slate his set piece work. Haven't seen you give him credit for it once yet considering his performances in the last year

I give credit to his work around park. Can't see that his set piece work ever deserves a mention.

Personally think Ireland are screwed if Healy does not make it.

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:14 am

BamBam wrote:Seems like overkill to get both Parling and Wood in, I hope it doesn't weaken us too much around the park, especially considering the impact that Launchbury can have when at full fitness

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just pick a hooker who can throw!

We are doing all of this because Tom Youngs is not good enough at his core job.

It's bananas

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:25 am

No real surprise about Dagg not making cut, he's been awful this year and most of last.

The best FB in the world not at the WC Matt, it's disgusting!

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:27 am

On form he is best in world by a distance but he has been poor this year. Does not deserve to make the squad.

Good to see NZ pick a side based
On form.

Nobody deserves a place on reputation

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:27 am

On form he is best in world by a distance but he has been poor this year. Does not deserve to make the squad.

Good to see NZ pick a side based
On form.

Nobody deserves a place on reputation

by dammit_chris Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:07 am

BamBam wrote:Seems like overkill to get both Parling and Wood in, I hope it doesn't weaken us too much around the park, especially considering the impact that Launchbury can have when at full fitness

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just pick a hooker who can throw!

Agree with you completely there Bam, it seems crazy to make those changes but shows just how much of an issue we have at the set piece. Can see George being no1 come the WC. Wood should be enough to make our lineout work, but if we bring in both him and Parling we lose a lot of carrying and work around the pitch.

Feel sorry for Attwood as well, as his cameo against France showed just how much impact he can have off the bench and Parling/Kruis are pretty similar and again shows just how much worry we have about the lineout.

by dammit_chris Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:10 am

Salary cap looks like it is going to do its job this year - according to the Rugby Paper Richie Gray is signing for Bath and Tuilagi is going to agree to a £400k a year contract from Sarries for the 2016/2017 season. If Sarries got Tuilagi I couldn't see another team in the AP being able to stop them.

Wasps apparently have 2 marque signings still to announce and Saints have apparently signed a world class no8 as well to replace Manoa. The four clubs with the money will make it so difficult for other teams to compete.

by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:35 am

"On form he is best in world by a distance"

Can't agree with that Matt, think others are better (Folau, Smith etc)

"Tuilagi is going to agree to a £400k a year contract from Sarries for the 2016/2017 season"

They're going to pay 400k for him not to play any games?? Wink

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:11 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:I don't rate him at all but it's hardly a vendetta.
Any time you mention McGrath you completely slate his set piece work. Haven't seen you give him credit for it once yet considering his performances in the last year

I give credit to his work around park. Can't see that his set piece work ever deserves a mention.

Personally think Ireland are screwed if Healy does not make it.

Ireland who won the 6 nations and beat the Boks and Aussies with him at LH in the last year Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 8:20 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:I don't rate him at all but it's hardly a vendetta.
Any time you mention McGrath you completely slate his set piece work. Haven't seen you give him credit for it once yet considering his performances in the last year

I give credit to his work around park. Can't see that his set piece work ever deserves a mention.

Personally think Ireland are screwed if Healy does not make it.

Ireland who won the 6 nations and beat the Boks and Aussies with him at LH in the last year

This sums it up SJe he had a decent autumn but not at set piece and tight.
Remember pooly posting this

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3887_9588423,00.html

by ChequeredJersey Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:24 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Naholo a quick healer. Wouldn't mind meeting that medicine man of his!

He only broke a bone, not that quick a recovery time, fractures are often easy injuries if they break cleanly

by ChequeredJersey Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:27 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Salary cap looks like it is going to do its job this year - according to the Rugby Paper Richie Gray is signing for Bath and Tuilagi is going to agree to a £400k a year contract from Sarries for the 2016/2017 season. If Sarries got Tuilagi I couldn't see another team in the AP being able to stop them.

Wasps apparently have 2 marque signings still to announce and Saints have apparently signed a world class no8 as well to replace Manoa. The four clubs with the money will make it so difficult for other teams to compete.

As their marquee? Shouldn't they be selling players to try and get back under the cap?

by Guest Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:06 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Naholo a quick healer. Wouldn't mind meeting that medicine man of his!

He only broke a bone, not that quick a recovery time, fractures are often easy injuries if they break cleanly

Leg very different though. It was a complicated break.i left my med degree year 4 and would say naholo break looked complicated. Amazing recovery.

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