Wales vs Italy September 5th Cardiff

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WALES v ITALY at Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Saturday 5th September 2015 – Kick Off: 5pm
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (FFR)


TV Coverage: Live on BBC Two Wales


Tickets for the Wales v Italy warm-up match are available to purchase at the official WRU eTicketing website with prices from £20 – £35.



History

Italy and Wales have played each other at rugby union since 1994. A total of 22 matches have been played, with Wales winning 19, Italy winning two and one drawn match.[1]



Wales Team

15 L Halfpenny
14 A Cuthbert
13 C Allen
12 S Williams
11 G North
10 D Biggar
9 R Webb
1 G Jenkins
2 K Owens
3 T Francis
4 J Ball
5  D Day
6 J King
7 S Warburton
8 T Faletau.

Reps: 16 K Dacey, 17 P James, 18 A Jarvis, 19 L Charteris,  20 R Moriarty,  21 G Davies,  22 R Priestland,  23 M Morgan.





Italian Team

15 Andrea Masi
14 Leonardo Sarto
13 Luca Morisi
12 Gonzalo Garcia
11 Giovanbattista Venditti
10 Tommaso Allan
9 Edoardo Gori
1 Michele Rizzo
2 Leonardo Ghiraldini
3 Martin Castrogiovanni
4 Quintin Geldenhuys
5 Josh Furno
6 Alessandro Zanni
7Francesco Minto
8 Sergio Parisse (capt)

Replacements: 16 Andrea Manici, 17 Matias Aguero, 18 Lorenzo Cittadini, 19 Valerio Bernabo', 20 Samula Vunisa, 21 Guglielmo Palazzani, 22 Carlo Canna, 23 Luke McLean.

As the commenatators were saying references need a retired impartial front row forward in the tmo box

Ross Moriarty! Only exciting moment of the match

The best player on the park is not in the squad.

Time for Dacey to run it in from halfway now! He used to be a centre...

Halfpenny injured!

Doesn't good great. He's going to be stretchered off too.

Jesus christ, it will be Biggar next.

He should have been taken off 10 minutes ago.

Shame, now Cuthbert has to stay on. It's not been a good day for Wales! Amos into the starting team next week with Williams on the bench.

WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

It don't look good for Half penny. With webb going off as well. injuries cpome at the wrong time for Wales me thinks.

mikey_dragon wrote:Shame, now Cuthbert has to stay on. It's not been a good day for Wales! Amos into the starting team next week with Williams on the bench.

Some young and inexperienced players need to step up big time, really doesn't look good.

Hope Halfpenny can somehow turn it around in 3 weeks, but doesn't look likely.

Looks like a bad sprain of a cruciate ligament to me. Anything from 6 weeks to 6 months on that is my professional opinion. Oxygen isn't a good sign, a little tweak and he might've made it to the cup.

I guess it is Patchell or Walker next in line. 4 caps between them?

We can only hope that the injured players are not serious but they looked awful.

Get this out of the way, better now than in a couple weeks mun .

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Hard to find a positive in that game. They are both big players. We can only hope that things are not as bad as they look for both of them.

I'll bet you a whole tray of tinnies Wales bring in Anscombe now.

A win is a win i suppose. But if i was a welsh fan i would not be too happy with that performance to be honest.

I thought Italy played very very well and deserved to win in my opinion.

I guess Gatland will say we have work to do be for the RWC.

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Have to say Italy did play well.

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Actually Martyn Williams just mentioned it, I know what it's in reference to now .

majesticimperialman wrote:A win is a win i suppose. But if i was a welsh fan i would not be too happy with that performance to be honest.

I thought Italy played very very well and deserved to win in my opinion.

I guess Gatland will say we have work to do be for the RWC.

Don't really care about the performance to be honest.

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

mikey_dragon wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Actually Martyn Williams just mentioned it, I know what it's in reference to now .

Naholo recovered from a whole broken leg in three weeks. Reckon Halfpennie can get over a twisted knee with a bit of a Fijian

mikey_dragon wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Actually Martyn Williams just mentioned it, I know what it's in reference to now .

All Black winger Naholo broke his leg in the rugby championship but has made a miraculous recovering to make the world cup squad after going back to Fiji and using some herbal medicine.

maestegmafia wrote:

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

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Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

Gareth Anscombe can play full back and is a decent kicker. Reckon he missed out as he is halfpenny-light. He's dogs to dollars in the picture now.

donglewood wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

?

Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

Gareth Anscombe can play full back and is a decent kicker. Reckon he missed out as he is halfpenny-light. He's dogs to dollars in the picture now.

He missed out because he is injured.

wales606 wrote:

donglewood wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

?

Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

Gareth Anscombe can play full back and is a decent kicker. Reckon he missed out as he is halfpenny-light. He's dogs to dollars in the picture now.

He missed out because he is injured.

He appears to be in Dubai so he couldn't be too bad!

donglewood wrote:

wales606 wrote:

donglewood wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

?

Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

Gareth Anscombe can play full back and is a decent kicker. Reckon he missed out as he is halfpenny-light. He's dogs to dollars in the picture now.

He missed out because he is injured.

He appears to be in Dubai so he couldn't be too bad!

But he can't play, otherwise he would be playing for the Blues.

wales606 wrote:

donglewood wrote:

wales606 wrote:

donglewood wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:

donglewood wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

donglewood wrote:WRU will be chartering a flight to Fiji tonight at this rate.

?

Herbal treatment. See Naholo.

Could be this RWCs version of the ice chambers for recovery treatment...

Gareth Anscombe can play full back and is a decent kicker. Reckon he missed out as he is halfpenny-light. He's dogs to dollars in the picture now.

He missed out because he is injured.

He appears to be in Dubai so he couldn't be too bad!

But he can't play, otherwise he would be playing for the Blues.

I'll take your word for it mate.

wales606 wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:A win is a win i suppose. But if i was a welsh fan i would not be too happy with that performance to be honest.

I thought Italy played very very well and deserved to win in my opinion.

I guess Gatland will say we have work to do be for the RWC.

Don't really care about the performance to be honest.

you what?

While it is absolutely terrible for both LH and RW that they will be denied the opportunity to play in a WC, from a Welsh perspective them being unavailable will be irrelevant based on that performance.

Far more concerned by the scrum and the general lethargy of this team. What is it with us that, as a nation, we cant seem to get up for these sort of games. The best in the world consistently put these teams to the sword and do not let their standards drop. It is pee poor for a country, for which, rugby is supposed to be the national sport.

People will talk bollox about why Gatland played our best players in this game, its irrelevant. They are two individuals (one world class and one very good). I believe Gareth Davies will do fine and I actually think Liam Williams, if fit, will be an improvement from an attacking perspective.

We will miss halfpenny when it comes to his goal kicking. But you need to win penalties or score tries for you to have a shot at goal and on this evenings showing, we won't do either against Aus or England!

Wonder if gatland regrets is 'we are more settled than england' jibe. His mind hames seem to be backfiring again

^^^^ yawn, zzzzzzzzzzz.

Right where to start,

Firstly whether they are fit for the tournament or not (hope they are) but best wishes to Webb and Halfpenny with their injuries and recovery.

On to the game, what an utterly shocking and shambolic performance today. No disrespect to Italy but with what 9/10 probable first teamers in the starting line up we should have been able to beat them more comfortably than we did.

The scrums were appalling no matter who was on the pitch:

AWJ and Charteris are way ahead our first pairing and whilst I always liked Jake Ball I think Davies is now firmly next in line.

We missed Lydiate hugely today people have been so concerned with trying to get Warburton (who I thought was one of only 2 players to have good game) and Tipuric into the team they forget or just don't realise how much work Dan does. Most of our attacks actually start from his defence.

Missed Roberts hugely as well and Scott Williams was the other one who I thought had great game and hope him and Roberts can form a good partnership.

I have in the past tried to defend Cuthbert but he has done himself no favours whatsoever and is just trying to hard to justify his selection.

Onto the injuries and whilst they are both a big loss they are not irreplaceable, Li Williams will come into XV and actually offers a more attacking threat and G Davies is himself a very very play with pace and speed of pass we need.

If the injuries are worst case then I guess Phillips will be re-called for Webb but not sure who he may call up for Halfpenny

The match was not televised over here in the colonies. So I didn't see the injuries. Webb is an ankle? How did it happen? And Halfpenny? Went off under oxy? What happened?

Webb was caught at bottom of pile up just fell awkward suspected broken ankle, Halfpenny just seemed to over stretch/slipped awkward etc no one else involved.

bedfordwelsh wrote:Webb was caught at bottom of pile up just fell awkward suspected broken ankle, Halfpenny just seemed to over stretch/slipped awkward etc no one else involved.

Hopefully the match will be posted somewhere.  The scary picture you paint about Halfpenny combined with the pictures of him being carted off is classic ACL tear.  Hopefully a sprain and back in a few weeks (hopefully the week after playing England).

doctor_grey wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Webb was caught at bottom of pile up just fell awkward suspected broken ankle, Halfpenny just seemed to over stretch/slipped awkward etc no one else involved.

Hopefully the match will be posted somewhere.  The scary picture you paint about Halfpenny combined with the pictures of him being carted off is classic ACL tear.  Hopefully a sprain and back in a few weeks (hopefully the week after playing England).

Both were in a lot of pain, Halfpenny probably has a slightly better chance, but I can't really see either being fit for the WC and will be surprised if we see Webb playing before Christmas.

I think if there chance Halpenny be fit for Oz game they wont call anyone up

bedfordwelsh wrote:I think if there chance Halpenny be fit for Oz game they wont call anyone up

Probably, but it is going to be a tough decision for the coaches, if more players get injured or pick up short term niggles there could be big problems.

Morgan and Amos can play FB - but really I would only trust L.Williams to play there against England/Aus,

wales606 wrote:

doctor_grey wrote:

bedfordwelsh wrote:Webb was caught at bottom of pile up just fell awkward suspected broken ankle, Halfpenny just seemed to over stretch/slipped awkward etc no one else involved.

Hopefully the match will be posted somewhere.  The scary picture you paint about Halfpenny combined with the pictures of him being carted off is classic ACL tear.  Hopefully a sprain and back in a few weeks (hopefully the week after playing England).

Both were in a lot of pain, Halfpenny probably has a slightly better chance, but I can't really see either being fit for the WC and will be surprised if we see Webb playing before Christmas.

Just read the thinking is possible ACL for Halfpenny. You can usually tell if that is the preliminary diagnosis if the scan is delayed by 24 or 48 hours. Doesn't mean it's a tear and not a sprain, but for clarity about soft tissue. Again, hoping for the best.

On to the game, what an utterly shocking and shambolic performance today. No disrespect to Italy but with what 9/10 probable first teamers in the starting line up we should have been able to beat them more comfortably than we did

bedfordwelsh

Totaly agree with you, Wales should of put Italy to the sword today.

Some of Wales first choice players did not show up today. Warburton in my opinion had a very good game, seeing that he has just returned from injury.

I do hope that Halfpenny and Webb will be all right.

Surely Cuthbert played him self out of the team/squad today?

With this being the last warm up game before  the RWC (Surely) there will be concerns over the performance of the Welsh team today. Don't you think?

maj, for most Cuthbert played himself out of the team last year! Gatland has been desperately wanting his form to return but it isn't happening. I would forget about him and give Amos a chance.

miley_dragon

I think that Moriearty?( spelling) played bloody well when he came on today....could he not play on the wing/

GavinDragon wrote:I believe Gareth Davies will do fine and I actually think Liam Williams, if fit, will be an improvement from an attacking perspective.

We will miss halfpenny when it comes to his goal kicking.

Fortunately, Dan Biggar is an excellent goal kicker.

No, but perhaps Tipuric could......

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

GavinDragon wrote:I believe Gareth Davies will do fine and I actually think Liam Williams, if fit, will be an improvement from an attacking perspective.

We will miss halfpenny when it comes to his goal kicking.

Fortunately, Dan Biggar is an excellent goal kicker.

Biggar's back-up however, is not.

He's more hit-and-miss, admittedly, but he's not awful. He's no Kelly Haimona.

True .

I don't see either Webb and Halfpenny being that big losses for Wales, Gareth Davies in form is a better player than Webb, Biggar is as good a place kicker if not better than Halfpenny and Liam Williams is a better overall fullback than the man with the golden boots..