QF4: Australia v Scotland, 18 October

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AUSTRALIA v SCOTLAND

18 October 2015
16:00 BST (UTC+01)
Twickenham, London

Live on telly

Ref: Craig Joubert (South Africa)
ARs: Glen Jackson (New Zealand) and Pascal Gauzere (France)
TMO: Ben Skeen (New Zealand)

A. Head to Head

28 Played 28
19 Won 9
0 Drawn 0
9 Lost 19
671 Points 330

B. Recent Form

23 November 2013
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 21 to Australia

5 June 2012
Hunter Stadium, Newcastle
6 – 9 to Scotland

21 November 2009
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 8 to Scotland

25 November 2006
Murrayfield, Edinburgh
15 – 44 to Australia

20 November 2004
Hampden Park, Glasgow
17 – 31 to Australia

C. TEAMS:
AUSTRALIA

15 Kurtley Beale; 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Matt Giteau, 11 Drew Mitchell; 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Will Genia;

1 Scott Sio, 2Stephen Moore, 3 Sekope Kepu, 4 Kane Douglas, 5 Rob Simmons, 6 Scott Fardy, 7 Michael Hooper, 8 Ben McCalman.

Substitutes: 16 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 17 James Slipper, 18 Greg Holmes, 19 Dean Mumm, 20 Sean McMahon, 21 Nick Phipps, 22 Matt Toomua, 23 Quade Cooper.

SCOTLAND

15 Stuart Hogg; 14 Sean Maitland, 13 Mark Bennett, 12 Peter Horne 11 Tommy Seymour; 10 Finn Russell,  9 Greig Laidlaw;

1 Alasdair Dickinson, 2 Ross Ford, 3 Willem Nel, 4 Jonny Gray, 5 Richie Gray, 6 Blair Cowan, 7 John Hardie, 8 David Denton. 


Substitutes: 
16 Fraser Brown, 17 Gordon Reid, 18 Jon Welsh, 19 Tim Swinson, 20 Josh Strauss, 21 Henry Pyrgos, 22 Richie Vernon, 23 Sean Lamont.

HammerofThunor wrote:Ford said he lifted him. That's a pretty convincing argument.

Fair play. I've only seen the footage.

RDW_Scotland wrote:Will be interesting to see how the clear outs happen when Pocock and Hooper get  over the ball in their strong jackle position – if you can’t get your shoulders lower then theirs and blast them out the way your options are to use their upper body/shoulders to roll them out the way, or to lift their leg for a similar purpose.  The latter technique is what caused Ford and Gray problems.

Kick them in the back. Not dangerous.

Now it's getting stupid

http://drivingmaul.com/2015/10/15/scottish-pair-banned-for-52-weeks/

awayandbileyerheid wrote:Now it's getting stupid

http://drivingmaul.com/2015/10/15/scottish-pair-banned-for-52-weeks/

I actually agree with this ban.

funnyExiledScot wrote:

awayandbileyerheid wrote:Now it's getting stupid

http://drivingmaul.com/2015/10/15/scottish-pair-banned-for-52-weeks/

I actually agree with this ban.

Fair enough. But 52weeks ? Come on. That includes Hogmanay

That's true. Still happy with the ban....

It's not that I'm against bagpipes in stadia, just not anywhere close to me.....

It is a fair question though - where did they hide them to get them in??

I don't know but Pape was sure O'Brien had a piece somewhere and wanted to confiscate it

Is that a bagpipe up your kilt?

No sir, I'm just pleased to see you!

Perhaps the appeal process should claim that Ford and Gray were obviously mistaken for Boris Johnson

I'm amazed by the bans...

Gray makes sense as he's lifted the leg up and around, but then i've seen 2/3 of these per game this tourny.

Ford must be gutted, he's text book cleared a man out however Gray lifting the leg over has hindered Fords actions.

I can't beleive both have been banned, it's ridiculous.

MacKnocked-on wrote:Perhaps the appeal process should claim that Ford and Gray were obviously mistaken for Boris Johnson  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34537841

Its the facial expressions that do it for me. Worth remembering this when he becomes PM.......

You can just surmise as to how this citation hearing went:-

Mr Cockroach Quinlan QC:   "Right wheel the guilty besterds in.   And you say this Gray and Ford are from Scotland Mr Nonentity Nowland ?   They are not a top 8 team.   Hmm... this is totally different from poor Mr O'Brien, where that Frenchie ran into his fist with his ribs in the 4 minute.  A complete accident and not at all a deliberate attempt to injure an opponent and Mr O'Brien is from Dublin D4 and we all know what that means.  OK I'm going to be lenient and commute the death sentence on Gray and Ford and ruin any chance the bullying Scots have of beating plucky little Ozzieland and ban them forever.    Whats that I can't ban them forever ?  Well lets make sure they never darken a world cup again and mess up their careers.   3 week ban should do it nicely.  
Now then a spot of pheasant for lunch washed down with a nice claret - all courtesy of those nice World Rugby chaps"

Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

Whao.......way to brighten the mood

Riskysports wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

Whao.......way to brighten the mood

I was never the same after my injury either... does that brighten the mood a bit?

Riskysports wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

Whao.......way to brighten the mood

To be fair, he’s had a world leading expert and the best professional sports care in the business to aid his recovery.

You (probably) had the NHS!

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Riskysports wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

Whao.......way to brighten the mood

To be fair, he’s had a world leading expert and the best professional sports care in the business to aid his recovery.

You (probably) had the NHS!

He did. They initially diagnosed it as tonsillitis.

funnyExiledScot wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:

Riskysports wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Good news folks - Alex Dunbar is back for Glasgow so when we make the final he should be fit if we need an injury replacement!

After an ACL injury you are never "fit" again mate. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery. Sy Taylor was never the same player after his injury.

Whao.......way to brighten the mood

To be fair, he’s had a world leading expert and the best professional sports care in the business to aid his recovery.

You (probably) had the NHS!

He did. They initially diagnosed it as tonsillitis.

& prescribed Methadone. They saw I was from Fife and resorted to type...

Looking ahead to Sunday, one of the areas we'll really have to fix , is the issue of restarts. Hoping this might help https://vine.co/v/eEUb3uBDlE5

It's like a ginger Amish gangster

That's best description I've ever received!

GLove39 wrote:That's best description I've ever received!

You mean like this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/08/article-0-02FD4CC4000005DC-744_468x315.jpg

*Edit* I apologise of the Daily Mail link

cakeordeath wrote:

GLove39 wrote:That's best description I've ever received!

You mean like this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/08/article-0-02FD4CC4000005DC-744_468x315.jpg

*Edit* I apologise of the Daily Mail link

Nailed it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxYrAZWsAAuCwy.jpg

GLove39 wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:

GLove39 wrote:That's best description I've ever received!

You mean like this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/08/article-0-02FD4CC4000005DC-744_468x315.jpg

*Edit* I apologise of the Daily Mail link

Nailed it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxYrAZWsAAuCwy.jpg

Amazing. Apparently they're always after your Lucky Charms, Graham

George Carlin wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

cakeordeath wrote:

GLove39 wrote:That's best description I've ever received!

You mean like this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/08/article-0-02FD4CC4000005DC-744_468x315.jpg

*Edit* I apologise of the Daily Mail link

Nailed it!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIxYrAZWsAAuCwy.jpg

Amazing. Apparently they're always after your Lucky Charms, Graham

To be sure! To be sure!

Scotland team announcement time (using the stupid multi-tweet system)

16 Bryce
17 Reid
18 Welsh
19 Strokosch
20 Strauss
21 Pyrgos
22 Vernon
23 Lamont

Is there a reason the subs are first?!

Sure we say this every time, but would it kill them to just stick up a team sheet?

It's to get you over the mixed emotions of realising that Strokosch isn't starting but is on the bench.

BamBam wrote:Is there a reason the subs are first?!

Still hoping for the appeal to work??

1. Dickinson
2. Brown
3. WP Nel
4. Swinson
5. Gray
6. Cowan
7. Hardie
8. Denton

9. Greeg
10. Russell
11. Seymour
12. Horne
13. Bennett
14. No Maits
15. Hoggy

A very good pack to be honest. Horne I don't think is insane as we might think. The Welsh hammered away at that Ozzie line and called no joy even with a 2 man advantage.

If Horne is capable of magic as I think he can be he really needs to conjure up something special.

So no Scott?

Interesting

Although he really has been poor

Riskysports wrote:So no Scott?

Interesting

Although he really has been poor

Aye but surely he'd be on the bench instead of Vernon?

Must be injured.........MUST BE!

Scott has been dropped completely, so all faith is placed in Horne, seems like a massive gamble.

Granted, Scott had a bit of a 'mare against Samoa, but so did quite a few players.

Horne may very well step up and show what he can do, but seems like a big ask considering he's not shown it so far.

Riskysports wrote:So no Scott?

Interesting

Although he really has been poor

I would have started Visser too TBH. That Ozzie backline is likely to score tries whoever we have defending. Might as well try and score some tries ourselves.

Scott has looked good in patches but has been very inconsistent, let's be honest. Would be daft to deny there should be real continuity and fluency in an all Glasgow 10-15. We aren't going to win by kicking penalties - we're going to have to score tries - and we've picked our best footballing backline to do it.

Lamont is there to bring on if Kuridrani is squishing everyone in midfield. Vernon is an interesting selection and provides back row and midfield cover. If Russell gets injured, then it's Laidlaw to 10. 

Love the double openside flankers. We're in it for a fight, gentlemen.

EWT Spoons wrote:Scott has been dropped completely, so all faith is placed in Horne, seems like a massive gamble.

Granted, Scott had a bit of a 'mare against Samoa since coming back from injury, but so did quite a few players.

Horne may very well step up and show what he can do, but seems like a big ask considering he's not shown it so far.

Fixed that for you

He has been poor since coming back, running out the line, not making much progress - tackling like a Visser

All in all - I am happy with that team

Enough to win?> Not sure - but if we play well - we certainly can do

Will be interesting to see how our pack gets on - the Ozzie pack has been winning the scrums - but I am not sure if that is because Wales (Injuries) and England (Out of form) have been very weak

Fingers crossed we can put them on the back foot

Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

To also add.....

I hope Nel does his part to prevent Sherbert blowing up every scrum for an Aussie penalty.

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

On that note... https://vine.co/v/eE9LPvXDFph

Riskysports wrote:

EWT Spoons wrote:Scott has been dropped completely, so all faith is placed in Horne, seems like a massive gamble.

Granted, Scott had a bit of a 'mare against Samoa since coming back from injury, but so did quite a few players.

Horne may very well step up and show what he can do, but seems like a big ask considering he's not shown it so far.

Fixed that for you

He has been poor since coming back, running out the line, not making much progress - tackling like a Visser

Scott's injured according to Cotter

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

Nope - still have it 20/80 for us to win

But........you got to hope for the 20%

GLove39 wrote:

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

On that note... https://vine.co/v/eE9LPvXDFph

Love it!

GLove39 wrote:

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

On that note... https://vine.co/v/eE9LPvXDFph

You really need to get out more often :-)

Riskysports wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Oh dear.

The feicin deluded optimism is starting to creep in......

On that note... https://vine.co/v/eE9LPvXDFph

You really need to get out more often :-)

Can't. Risk of sunburn is too high