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Post by hazharrison Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:13 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/34906044

Good open and honest observations from Fury again here.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 10:18 am

Wherever there is big rewards.....There is going to be a lot of cheats.....

Not sure about legalisation though....Bodybuilders are dropping like flies in their 40s.....Wouldn't want to see boxers go the same way.....

If it's legal they'll be using everything..

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Post by kingraf Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:32 pm

Boxing's never attracted the most wholesome characters, and unlike say golf, has never quite been a sport where the virtues of a honesty are extolled high up to heaven (witness the amount of people who admire B-Hop basically cheating vs Woods getting a two stroke penalty for getting his lie wrong by about an inch). combine this with lazy governing bodies and it isn't pretty
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Post by Guest Tue 24 Nov 2015, 4:08 pm

Fury states these guys taking drugs are putting extra strain on their heart...true however so does piling on an extra five stone in between fights ya simpleton.

Says once a guy takes his shirt off he can tell immediately if he's on drugs. Well, if Fury's physique is any sort of yardstick, it means everyone from The Rock to Russell Grant is juicing compared to that flabby oaf

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Post by Pedro147 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 4:18 pm

Boxing has a Tyson Fury problem

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:34 pm

He's right and if be did what certain other heavies do, then he would be blasting guys all around the ring.

I'd say there is a high chance he is a clean athlete (can't always tell by the way someone looks,but he looks clean)

Unfortunately I can't say the same for his 40 year old opponent.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:36 pm

Always sound like jealousy and envy when people make such comments.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:53 pm

Hammer if you have been around gyms as much as me, and listen to people who are experts in ped use, you soon learn what's natural and what isn't.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 8:57 pm

That crackpot argument again, can't achieve it yourself then I presume.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:01 pm

I look decent. Not fat or not thin.

I ain't a bodybuilder so not too concerned with looks.

Anyhow I do know when men do as much cardio as heavyweight boxers and have ripped 18 inch arms, it isn't the good old chicken and broccoli.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:03 pm

Always strange how in the world you are innocent until proven guilty yet it differs for boxing.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:04 pm

Of course you do Adam, your basic experiences at the gym are comparable to an elite athlete and we should do away with drug testing because you've got it nailed down with just your eyes.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:07 pm

Not my experience with gym. More down to my knowledge of training and reading.

I like boxing but no f..k all. I spend far more time reading about training and drugs and stuff.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:10 pm

Guys sports are full of drugs. Not saying everyone uses, but you're very naive if you think loads aren't on.

I ain't saying everyone uses.

Do you guys think a certain boxer used an IV because he was drained?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:14 pm

To be honest I don't think you know anything about anything, you just make an argument for the sake of making an argument; saying you know 'stuff' doesn't back up your crackpot theories in the slightest.

Making baseless accusations is libellous and quite ridiculous.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:17 pm

Have you ever been to a gym? Have you read about bodybuilding?

Have you even seen the difference on how athletes look to 50 years ago?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:18 pm

Is that meant to refute anything Adam, you have at no point backed up any of your statements other than to say 'oh look at his physique, he must be juicing'.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:20 pm

I never said I can prove anything. Read about natural guidelines on what is achievable naturally.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:23 pm

Do carry on making baseless accusations though Adam, I suppose it feeds your need for attention.

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Post by AdamT Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm

I ain't looking attention.

Naw like you said, I have no proof so what's the point?

Hopefully drug testing becomes great someday and that will show what's real and what isn't.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:27 pm

You'd do well to remember you're innocent until proven guilty.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:28 pm

Best not to make unsubstantiated accusations...........

Me I just view the whole of Boxing cynically....

Must say..... Klit risking his health with peds fighting the crap around now would surprise me....

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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 25 Nov 2015, 4:39 pm

Such is the level up at heavyweight, if I was Wlad I'd be more likely to be tucking into takeaways than juicing. He hasn't exactly needed to be at the pinnacle of his health to blow through all the taxi drivers that make it to mandatory status. Why bother with the drugs?

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Post by AdamT Wed 25 Nov 2015, 5:22 pm

Maybe without drugs (if he is using) he would be a taxi driver as well.

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Post by hazharrison Wed 25 Nov 2015, 6:17 pm

Dipper Brown wrote:Such is the level up at heavyweight, if I was Wlad I'd be more likely to be tucking into takeaways than juicing. He hasn't exactly needed to be at the pinnacle of his health to blow through all the taxi drivers that make it to mandatory status. Why bother with the drugs?

Doesn't that say something about Wlad?

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 25 Nov 2015, 8:28 pm

I've said it before with regards to both Haye and Wlad. Both of them were motoring through opponents left right and centre until they hit a brick wall. Since then both fighters power punch output has markedly decreased and both pick their punches to the extent where both are ridiculed for it. If they used drugs they would have had to use them to improve stamina as that is both their weak points. Instead both have adjusted in ways to conserve their stamina and reduce the likelihood of being hit.

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Post by catchweight Wed 25 Nov 2015, 8:33 pm

The whole sport is likely plagued by drug and substance abuse. Its not even subtle. No point picking on individuals though.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:03 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:I've said it before with regards to both Haye and Wlad. Both of them were motoring through opponents left right and centre until they hit a brick wall. Since then both fighters power punch output has markedly decreased and both pick their punches to the extent where both are ridiculed for it. If they used drugs they would have had to use them to improve stamina as that is both their weak points. Instead both have adjusted in ways to conserve their stamina and reduce the likelihood of being hit.

Good point shah. Haye's way of adjusting to reduce the likelihood of being hit, was to retire. The man's a genius...no-one has laid a glove on him since.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:14 pm

milkyboy wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:I've said it before with regards to both Haye and Wlad. Both of them were motoring through opponents left right and centre until they hit a brick wall. Since then both fighters power punch output has markedly decreased and both pick their punches to the extent where both are ridiculed for it. If they used drugs they would have had to use them to improve stamina as that is both their weak points. Instead both have adjusted in ways to conserve their stamina and reduce the likelihood of being hit.

Good point shah. Haye's way of adjusting to reduce the likelihood of being hit, was to retire. The man's a genius...no-one has laid a glove on him since.

No wonder he's always ill. Surely his medical team would utilise hygiene practices.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 25 Nov 2015, 9:18 pm

milkyboy wrote:
ShahenshahG wrote:I've said it before with regards to both Haye and Wlad. Both of them were motoring through opponents left right and centre until they hit a brick wall. Since then both fighters power punch output has markedly decreased and both pick their punches to the extent where both are ridiculed for it. If they used drugs they would have had to use them to improve stamina as that is both their weak points. Instead both have adjusted in ways to conserve their stamina and reduce the likelihood of being hit.

Good point shah. Haye's way of adjusting to reduce the likelihood of being hit, was to retire. The man's a genius...no-one has laid a glove on him since.

I heard he was hit a plenty by Macduff a few months ago in Vic-Vegas.....All three witches scored it a shut out !!

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