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Post by profitius Mon 25 Jan 2016, 11:51 am

Forwards:
James Bollard (Dublin University / Leinster)
Kelvin Brown (Shannon / Munster)
Peter Claffey (Galwegians / Leinster)
Will Connors (UCD / Leinster)
Max Deegan (Lansdowne / Leinster)
Shane Fenton (Young Munster / Munster)
John Foley (Shannon / Shannon)
Cillian Gallagher (Sligo RFC / Connacht)
Greg Jones (UCD / Leinster)
Conor Kenny (Buccaneers / Connacht)
Adam McBurney (Ballymena / Ulster)
Sean O'Connor (Cashel / Munster)
Conan O'Donnell (Sligo / Connacht)
Andrew Porter (UCD / Leinster)
James Ryan (Lansdowne / Leinster)
Dan Walsh (Cork Con / Munster)

Backs:
Matthew Byrne (Terenure / Leinster)
Brett Connon (Newcastle Falcons / Exlies)
Shane Daly (Cork Con / Munster)
Hugo Keenan (UCD / Leinster)
Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's / Leinster)
Stephen Kerins (Sligo / Connacht)
Paul Kiernan (UCC / Leinster)
Robert Lyttle (Queen's University / Ulster)
Johnny McPhillips (Queen's University / Ulster)
Conor O'Brien (Clontarf / Leinster)
Jimmy O'Brien (UCD / Leinster)
John Poland (Cork Con / Munster)
Jack Power (UCD / Leinster)
Jacob Stockdale (Belfast Harlequins / Ulster)
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Post by Marshes Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:28 pm

Not too familiar with a lot of the connacht lads, but I know Conan o Donnell is well regarded as one for the future in the front row.

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Post by Golden Mon 25 Jan 2016, 1:39 pm

Leinster -14
Munster - 7
Connacht -4
Ulster -4
Exile - 1

Only one forward from Ulster. You guys seem to have difficulty bringing through the fatties. No problem with the backs though. Maybe a few more Ulster frys needed? Smile

Porter and Ryan are rated from the Leinster boys. Not too familiar with the rest.

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Post by profitius Mon 25 Jan 2016, 2:10 pm

Kiernan is Munster (the Cork Kiernans) and Claffey is Connacht.

Irishrugbyua listed their positions.
LH
James Bollard(Leinster)
Andrew Porter(Leinster)
TH
Conan O'Donnell(Connacht)
Conor Kenny(Connacht)
Hooker
Shane Fenton(Munster)
Adam McBurney(Ulster)
Lock
James Ryan(Leinster)
Sean O'Connor(Munster)
Peter Claffey(Connacht)
Cillian Gallagher(Connacht) - u19
Backrow
Greg Jones(Leinster)
Will Connors(Leinster)
Max Deegan(Leinster)
Dan Walsh(Munster)
John Foley(Munster) - u19
Kelvin Brown(Munster)
Scrumhalf
John Poland(Munster)
Stephen Kerins(Connacht)
Outhalf
Brett Connon(Newcastle)
Johnny McPhillips(Ulster) - u19
Centre
Paul Kiernan(Munster)
Jimmy O'Brien(Leinster)
Conor O'Brien(Leinster)
Jacob Stockdale(Ulster)
Back Three
Matthew Byrne(Leinster)
Terry Kennedy(Leinster)
Rob Lyttle(Ulster) - u19
Hugo Keenan(Leinster)
Shane Daly(Munster)
Jack Power(Leinster)
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Post by profitius Wed 03 Feb 2016, 12:34 am

42.ie did 2 articles on Paul Kiernan and James Ryan.

http://www.the42.ie/paul-kiernan-ireland-u20-munster-2579414-Feb2016/


http://www.the42.ie/james-ryan-ireland-u20-captain-2578768-Feb2016/
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Post by RubyGuby Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:50 am

Are you allowed to have a Bollard as a prop? Seems a little unfair to me

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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 03 Feb 2016, 2:27 pm

Golden wrote:Leinster -14
Munster - 7
Connacht -4
Ulster -4
Exile - 1

Only one forward from Ulster. You guys seem to have difficulty bringing through the fatties. No problem with the backs though. Maybe a few more Ulster frys needed? Smile

Porter and Ryan are rated from the Leinster boys. Not too familiar with the rest.

Actually when it comes to the front 5 we are doing fine thanks
Taking 25 as the cut off, on and below that we have
LH - McCall, Warwick
Hooker - Herring, Andrew
TH - Herbst (in 2017)
Lock - Henderson, AOC, Treadwell

That's pretty good.
True a few 'blow ins' there but still eligible.

Some further decent prospects in the wings as well

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Post by profitius Wed 03 Feb 2016, 5:03 pm

Ireland U20 (v Wales, Friday 5 February 2016)
15. Jack Power (UCD / Leinster)*
14. Matthew Byrne (Terenure / Leinster)*
13. Shane Daly (Cork Con / Munster)*
12. Jimmy O’Brien (UCD / Leinster)*
11. Hugo Keenan (UCD / Leinster)*
10. Johnny McPhillips (QUB / Ulster)*
9. John Poland (Cork Con / Munster)*
1. Andrew Porter (UCD / Leinster)
2. Adam McBurney (Ballymena / Ulster)
3. Conan O’Donnell (Sligo / Connacht)
4. Peter Claffey (Galwegians / Connacht)*
5. James Ryan (Lansdowne / Leinster)* Captain
6. Cillian Gallagher (Sligo / Connacht)*
7. Will Connors (UCD / Leinster)*
8. Max Deegan (Lansdowne / Leinster)*
Replacements:
16. Shane Fenton (Young Munster / Munster)*
17. James Bollard (Dublin University / Leinster)*
18. Conor Kenny (Buccaneers / Connacht)*
19. Sean O’Connor (Cashel / Munster)*
20. Kelvin Brown (Shannon / Munster)*
21. Stephen Kerins (Sligo / Connacht)*
22. Brett Connon (Newcastle Falcons)*
23. Conor O’Brien (Clontarf / Leinster)*


* new caps

Stockdale and maybe Lyttle have been retained by Ulster.
Porter, O'Donnell, captain Ryan and Deegan are the most hyped in the team. All forwards.
The backrow are all tall. All 6'4" or greater. Don't ask why, maybe Carolan is a bit paranoid of getting bullied again.


RubyGuby wrote:Are you allowed to have a Bollard as a prop? Seems a little unfair to me

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If he goes backward he'll have to change his name! Wink
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Post by Notch Wed 03 Feb 2016, 5:15 pm

McPhillips is apparently very highly rated in Ulster
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Post by geoff999rugby Wed 03 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm

He is.

Is the game on RTE or TG4 by any chance, would like to record as it clashes with Ulster v Dragons

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Post by The Great Aukster Wed 03 Feb 2016, 10:30 pm

RTE 2 7:25

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Post by geoff999rugby Thu 04 Feb 2016, 8:41 am

Cheers - I'll set the record button

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Post by Marshes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:44 pm

Anyone watching the Wales game? Good start by Ireland, Jonny McPhillips looks a prospect!

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:50 pm

Slow start for Wales the Wales defender showed a lack of commitment for the Ireland try.

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:52 pm

Crap kick even worse catch

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Post by Marshes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:53 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Slow start for Wales the Wales defender showed a lack of commitment for the Ireland try.

Lots of lads already with Pro 12 experience, future looks bright for Wales!

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Post by Marshes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 7:53 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Slow start for Wales the Wales defender showed a lack of commitment for the Ireland try.

Lots of lads already with Pro 12 experience, future looks bright for Wales!

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:07 pm

Looked like snother harsh pen

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:27 pm

Wales seem to be scoring the Irish way, two good teams should be a good 2nd half.

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:29 pm

The wales wing is 17 he looks like s handfull

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:34 pm

So refreshing watching two teams who look to offload and keep the game moving.

Great game to watch. Wales deserve the lead.
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Post by True Raven Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:40 pm

glamorganalun wrote:The wales wing is 17 he looks like s handfull

Turned 18 last week. There's a lot of guys in this under 20s team that were in a good Wales under 18s team last year that beat england, France and Ireland. However, I've been impressed by one of the older guys in the squad, Harrison keddie

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:40 pm

Great offloading by Ireland

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Post by wales606 Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:43 pm

Wales SH is dire, costing us a lot so far
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Post by True Raven Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:43 pm

Is Ruddock still coaching the Irish team?

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:44 pm

Good try even if not grounded

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Post by wales606 Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:46 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Good try even if not grounded

Yeah, no way he grounded that
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Post by wales606 Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:48 pm

New scrumhalf...yay!
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Post by True Raven Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:51 pm

Never a yellow or a penalty

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:51 pm

Harsh yellow worst was a hatsh pen

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:52 pm

What was that decision all about - a footballers dive by the 10 & the forward gets a yellow?

Seems to have made a miracle recovery to take the kick - what a load of nonsense.


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Post by Geen sport voor watjes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:53 pm

I wonder does the Welsh No.10 bump into things a lot..

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Post by wales606 Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:53 pm

Yeah, that is ridiculous. Tough on Ireland
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Post by Guest Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:53 pm

Terrible decision. Dive by the Welsh boy.

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Post by wales606 Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:55 pm

On the replay he does move a bit, still never a yellow
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Post by Geen sport voor watjes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 8:58 pm

I really dont like the way the welsh players at this age are moaning about every decision...very poor

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 9:10 pm

Booth teams putting pressure on themselves, nice to ambition

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Post by Marshes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 9:19 pm

Welsh are vicious at the breakdown, fantastic effort. The 10 doesn't need to be flopping about like that to get a penalty.

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 9:21 pm

Good consolation try for Ireland, good win for Wsles

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Post by glamorganalun Fri 05 Feb 2016, 9:22 pm

Motm the Irish 9 that helped Wsles win

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Post by Marshes Fri 05 Feb 2016, 9:27 pm

Congrats Wales! Some good players coming through, play with that intnsity on Sunday you go home with the win

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Post by profitius Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:27 pm

I enjoyed that match much better than last years encounter. Deserved win for Wales. Looked like boys against men at times.


I don't think the Irish backs are great although they had no platform to work with. Poland looked good apart from his mistake. McPhillips blew hot and cold. Johnston, Stockdale and Arnold can potentially come in which should help.
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Post by RubyGuby Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:45 pm

Good game but Ireland played some suicide rugby in their own 22. That yellow card on the Irish 4 was dreadful and made a difference IMO. Some big boys out there. Scotland hammering England by 4 trys to nil has really opened things up in this comp thumbsup

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 05 Feb 2016, 10:54 pm

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:What was that decision all about - a footballers dive by the 10 & the forward gets a yellow?

Seems to have made a miracle recovery to take the kick - what a load of nonsense.

The yellow card was for the try which Ireland didn't score from a driving lineout, which unsurprisingly you were very quiet about. Seen it from multiple angles; held up from two different angles and didn't see it scored in the others.

Anyway, rusty from both teams but Ireland tired and Wales took it. Thought the ref whilst allowing a free-flowing game gave a lot of harsh penalties against Wales. Ireland weren't good in the scrum or lineout drives, so I'm assuming their weight advantage was in the back-row. It was likely their back row who were the ones everywhere stopping our players for a lot of the game, thus we struggled to gain ground and momentum. I also think if we were a little less lazy and stupid at times then we wouldn't have let in that many tries.

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Post by Pot Hale Fri 05 Feb 2016, 11:45 pm

Good game.

Congrats Wales. 1-0 up for the weekend. Two to go.
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Post by The Great Aukster Mon 08 Feb 2016, 1:03 pm

Poland had a good game apart from the intercept which was incredibly bad. It effectively cost Ireland the game yet he still got Irish MOTM!

On the Ulster lads:
McPhillips was good apart from one miscued penalty touch miss, but he generally made good decisions.

McBurney was good in the loose and looks to have a lot of leadership potential. With John Andrew and Zak McCall both showing a lot of potential Ulster look well-stocked at Hooker.

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Post by profitius Wed 10 Feb 2016, 4:30 pm

The Ireland Under-20 team (sponsored by PwC) to face France in Narbonne on Friday night (kick-off 9.05pm local time/8.05pm Irish time) has been named. The game will be broadcast live on RTÉ Two and www.rte.ie/live (island of Ireland only).

Head coach Nigel Carolan has made several changes to the side that lost to 35-24 to Wales at Donnybrook last Friday night.

In the backs, UCD's Hugo Keenan, who started on the wing last week, moves to full-back in place of the injured Jack Power. Conor O'Brien (Clontarf), who won his first cap off the bench in the opening round, will start on the left wing and St. Mary's College and Ireland Sevens player Terry Kennedy will look to win his first Under-20 cap as a replacement.

Up front, prop Conor Kenny from Buccaneers takes the place of Sligo's Conan O'Donnell, who moves to the replacements. Cork Constitution's Dan Walsh, who will win his first U-20 cap, comes straight into the back row for the injured Will Connors.

Speaking ahead of the squad's departure for France, Carolan said: "We were disappointed with how things went against Wales. I thought that we played well overall but mistakes proved costly in the end. We've hopefully addressed the key areas and we'll be looking for an improved performance on Friday night.

"Our training sessions this week have been very positive and the players are looking forward to the game in Narbonne. If we can maximise on our opportunities, I'd be confident of a result against the French."

IRELAND UNDER-20 Team & Replacements (v France Under-20s, Under-20 RBS 6 Nations, Stade d'Honneur du Parc des Sports et de l'Amitié, Narbonne, Friday, February 12. kick-off 9.05pm local time/8.05pm Irish time):

15. Hugo Keenan (UCD/Leinster)
14. Matthew Byrne (Terenure College/Leinster)
13. Shane Daly (Cork Constitution/Munster)
12. Jimmy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
11. Conor O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)
10. Johnny McPhillips (Queen's University/Ulster)
9. John Poland (Cork Constitution/Munster)
1. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster)
2. Adam McBurney (Ballymena/Ulster)
3. Conor Kenny (Buccaneers/Connacht)
4. Peter Claffey (Galwegians/Connacht)
5. James Ryan (Lansdowne/Leinster) (capt)
6. Cillian Gallagher (Sligo/Connacht)
7. Dan Walsh (Cork Constitution/Munster) *
8. Max Deegan (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Replacements:

16. Shane Fenton (Young Munster/Munster)
17. James Bollard (Dublin University/Leinster)
18. Conan O'Donnell (Sligo/Connacht)
19. Sean O'Connor (Cashel/Munster)
20. Kelvin Brown (Shannon/Munster)
21. Stephen Kerins (Sligo/Connacht)
22. Brett Connon (Newcastle Falcons/Exiles)
23. Terry Kennedy (St. Mary's College/Leinster) *

* Denotes uncapped player at this level

Not Considered -

Jack Power (UCD/Leinster) - injured
Will Connors (UCD/Leinster) - injured
Jacob Stockdale (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) - involved with Ulster (PRO12)
Robert Lyttle (Queen's University/Ulster) - involved with Ulster (PRO12)
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Post by profitius Sat 13 Feb 2016, 12:15 pm

France won 34 - 13. Ireland leading after 40 min on the clock but they then collapsed. They look a very unfit side.
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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 13 Feb 2016, 12:22 pm

Ireland looked unfit against Wales, something must not be right. In order for us two to be any good at this level we need players with exposure to Pro12 rugby. This doesn't seem to be the case in England or France who can somehow put out inexperienced teams and still be competitive.

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Post by whocares Sat 13 Feb 2016, 12:33 pm

James Ryan looks like having everything to become a great lock though. Not sure if it's fitness or mental weakness but Ireland pretty much gave up in the 2nd half.

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