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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:20 am

Order of Play - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/schedule/schedule15.html

Live Scores - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/index.html

Day 10 Preview - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/news/articles/2016-01-26/day_10_preview_murrays_mind_management.html

My predictions...

Kerber in 3

Konta in 3

Murray in 4

Raonic in 5


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Post by Guest Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:41 am

Azarenka in 2
Konta in 3
Murray in 3
Monfils in 4

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Post by Guest Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:07 am

Azarenka in 3
Konta in 2
Murray in 4
Raonic in 4

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:22 am

Azarenka in 2
Zhang in 3
Ferrer in 4
Raonic in 4

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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:13 pm

Kerber d Azarenka 6-3, 7-5 - http://www.ausopen.com/en_AU/scores/stats/day15/2503ms.html .

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Post by summerblues Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:55 pm

Too bad Raonic is the second match.  Given how people have been saying that his game has changed, I was hoping to see him.  But I am not getting up 3am for him.

I am not interested in the Murray-Ferrer QF, so no tennis for me today.

I will be waking up 3am for Fed's match though Wink

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:39 pm

Konta on the brink. Has a real shot at making a grand slam final. Truly incredible!

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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:53 pm

Very good for Konta to get to the SF, but Kerber will be too much for Konta.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:53 pm

On the off chance that Murray has a shocker against Ferrer, then we will have the surprising situation of him not being the last Brit standing at a slam. I wonder when was the last time that happened. Ignoring those skipped, I'm guessing OZ 08, so a real rarity is on the cards.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:24 pm

An early break for Murray to lead 3-1. Very loose service game that from Ferrer by his standards.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:51 pm

Murray seals the first set 6-3 in 45 minutes. I'd like to see him kick on from here and get this down swiftly in around two hours but Ferrer won't go away quietly.
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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:51 pm

First set to Murray at 6-3, despite some valiant effort by Ferrer (2 missed BPs).

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Post by Born Slippy Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:55 pm

Murray playing a poor match so far. Looks half-asleep. Can see this getting scrappy.

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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:59 pm

Good ticker by Ferrer, gets an early break.

He threw away the first set, the second is must-win.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:00 pm

Born Slippy wrote:Murray playing a poor match so far. Looks half-asleep. Can see this getting scrappy.

Poor is a bit OTT for me but Ferrer breaks. Murray just feeding too much hope to Ferrer.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:07 pm

Perhaps the term I am looking for is that he just has times when he surrenders initiative in matches and that was one of them. He needs more of the foot on the throat mentality. Ferrer leads 3-1 (with a break) in the second set.
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Post by Born Slippy Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:08 pm

Poor is being fairly generous Craig. Hasn't got his big shots working and has already past the number of UEs he had against Tomic. He's also returning Ferrer's second serve woefully.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:15 pm

Born Slippy wrote:Poor is being fairly generous Craig. Hasn't got his big shots working and has already past the number of UEs he had against Tomic. He's also returning Ferrer's second serve woefully.

Well Ferrer is far different from Tomic as in is a brick wall. He doesn't feed you a lot of unforced errors unlike Tomic and means Murray has to go for more shots in rallies so you will get more errors. Plus Ferrer has more quality than Tomic. Don't get me wrong I am not saying this is great but winning a set 6-3 against Ferrer isn't what I'd call poor. I'd call it poor how he opened the door for Ferrer at the start of the second set. Murray leads 6-3 1-4
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:17 pm

Yes, agree with poor. The other side of the draw won't be quaking on the evidence of this match.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:20 pm

Hmm I cannot agree that winning a set 6-3 against a world No. 6 (which he will be after this tournie) is poor. What has followed was poor but the poor tag first was used at end of the first set. Murray breaks and we are back on serve at 4-3 to Ferrer.


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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:23 pm

But I will say the peaks and troughs seen in these first two sets sum up why Andy hasn't won more slams. He can win sets and then shut down and let opponents back into matches. Now against Ferrer you may get away with it but not against the Roger's and Novak's of this world.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:37 pm

Is it not conceivable that both players can play poorly? Are you watching the match or the score? Murray had 14 unforced BH errors by early in the second set. That's poor in my book.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:45 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Is it not conceivable that both players can play poorly? Are you watching the match or the score? Murray had 14 unforced BH errors by early in the second set. That's poor in my book.

I have seen Murray play worse but seen him play a lot better. What I am more rankled by personally is Murray's continued missing of the moment. Such as winning the first set then switching off and surrendering initiative then getting break point chances and missing them as he has done in this second set. That is much more aggravating for me. The first set by Murray wasn't his best for sure but I think to say it was outright poor is a stretch too far but there you go - it is all about opinions.
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Post by Born Slippy Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:46 pm

Yeah, Ferrer was terrible in the first set. He picked it up to about normal level at the start of the second whilst Andy carried on playing poorly - hence the early lead.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:47 pm

Quality from Ferrer in that game.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:01 pm

Ferrer deserved that. Takes the second set on a tie-break and has played some cracking stuff. Looks like this will be a marathon. One set-all.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:02 pm

Some great rallies in that set - Ferrer getting the better of the two longer ones in the tie-break, coupled with Murray's foolish error on the 3rd point, and it's game on.

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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:03 pm

Ferrer played the TB almost perfectly. Tied at a set a piece.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:05 pm

Yes, agreed. Ferrer deserved that one. Murray getting ahead in a lot of rallies, but struggling to find the killer blow. Still fancy Murray in 4.

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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:13 pm

At 34, Ferrer can run and absorb much pace. The sheer athleticism is mind-boggling.

If not in 4, Murray can still do it in 5. Murray should try and vary the pace a bit, instead of base-line rallying.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:21 pm

Murray breaks and straight away play is suspended. Ferrer unhappy. No rain but apparently it is because of thunder and lightening.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:21 pm

How long is it supposed to take to sort the roof?

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:24 pm

Seem to recall from previous times this has happened - between 10 to 20 minutes.
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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:24 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:How long is it supposed to take to sort the roof?

10 minutes...

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:28 pm

Murray looks in the driving seat now. He's bossing the majority of points and Ferrer is having to do an awful lot of scampering. Of course, the rain delay will give Ferrer some respite and it's vital that Murray doesn't surrender the initiative on the resumption.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:30 pm

Wow, that's much quicker than Wimbledon. Presumably, there's no knock up after such a brief intermission.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:32 pm

Oops, I shouldn't have switched channels. Ignore me!

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:35 pm

That was a key hold. Murray on mental walkabout but somehow holds and leads 6-3 6-7 4-1.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:36 pm

Ferrer squanders another two break points, something he simply can't afford to do.

Of greater concern is Murray's slight injury which may hamper him significantly if this match gets dragged into the trenches.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:38 pm

Phew! Murray clings on to the break. Was a whisker away from 3 doubles on a row on the deuce side. At least he can't be accused of rolling them in. Ferrer starting to look cooked.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:47 pm

Anyone else think that Murray looks a bit flat? He's normally a lot more animated, although, given the punishing nature of the tennis, perhaps no bad thing to be conserving energy.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:51 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:Anyone else think that Murray looks a bit flat? He's normally a lot more animated, although, given the punishing nature of the tennis, perhaps no bad thing to be conserving energy.

I wouldn't call it flat as Murray takes the third set 6-2. More controlled with his rants and self-admonishing maybe but still too much for my liking.
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Post by laverfan Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:53 pm

After the roof closing, Ferrer has also dropped his level. 2 sets to 1 for Murray.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:54 pm

Having said that, it's too early in the morning for tennis, so perhaps I'm the one lacking intensity.

Murray wraps up the 3rd and looks in a very strong position indeed.

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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:00 pm

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's an unassailable lead, but Murray looks to have the upper hand physically and there would have to be a serious drop off in his level for Ferrer to wrestle it back.

At this stage of their respective careers, you have to feel it will be increasingly difficult for Ferrer to come out on top over best of 5.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:02 pm

laverfan wrote:After the roof closing, Ferrer has also dropped his level. 2 sets to 1 for Murray.

Hmm perhaps but Murray had broken serve to lead in the third before the roof closed. Ferrer running out of steam and Murray maneuvering him around much better has been the difference.
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Post by Aut0Gr4ph Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:03 pm

Brutal for Ferrer now and Murray snatches the break. If he can polish off this set reasonably quickly, it will have been a good 4 set workout.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:04 pm

Aut0Gr4ph wrote:
At this stage of their respective careers, you have to feel it will be increasingly difficult for Ferrer to come out on top over best of 5.

This has been the game plan Ferrer has built his career around though. It will very often get the game done against most of the players in the world but against the very best it mostly comes up short.
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Post by Duty281 Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:05 pm

Ferrer sticking in, he's still full of running and resilient defence.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:06 pm

Murray again infuriatingly opening the door again to his opponent he had down. Rolling Eyes

He'll get the job done today but traits like that will get snuffed out by Roger or Novak.
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