South Africa's Greatest Ever Six Nations Team

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15. Scott Spedding
14. Hal Luscome
13. Brian Liebenberg
12. Brad Barrett
11. Nick Abendanon
10. Mike Catt
9. Rory Kockett
8. CJ Stander
7. Bernard Le Roux
6. Antoine Classen
5. Mouritz Botha
4. Quintin Geldenhuys
3. W.P. Nel
2. Richardt Strauss
1. Matt Stevens

1. Brett Wilkinson
7. Dion O'Cuinneagain
7. Hendrie Fourie
8. Dries van Schalkwyk
12. Staurt Abbott
6. Josh Strauss
4. Carlo Del Fava
9. Tobie Botes
1. Pieter DeVilliers


Coach: Nick Mallet

Did I miss anyone? Is this the best South African 6 nations team of all time?

GeordieFalcon wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:I wonder if we could do a full England foreign team. (Don't get all serious, its just a bit of fun. Some have been a long time I know. )

1 Mako
2 Hartley
3 Stevens
4 Botha
5
6 Billy V (Nathan Hughes - Is a certainty aswell!)
7 Fourie / Lipman
8 Waldrom / Ewers

9
10 Henry Paul
11 Vainikolo
12 Hape/Barritt
13 Tuilagi
14 Rokodugunni
15 Mike Catt

Struggling with a couple of positions, and haven't included the Nigerian contingent - Harriman, Ubogu , Ojomoh, Adedayo etc....

But not a bad side.

Kieran Bracken at 9. Shaw at 5.

Yeah, but I was trying to think of more clear cut foreign born...not just actually born with very limited time in that country

I forgot Flutey aswell.

I think one or both Brackens parents were Irish anyway if that helps.

fa0019 wrote:was it lies LD or was it genuine mistakes?

If you are asking the players, they were mistakes, if you would believe otherwise, then they are lies. They were not capped by Wales until they were at the ends of their careers, so I know what I believe.

dummy_half wrote:Guns

Great shout on Benazzi. Hadn't considered the French Africans, which also could bring in Betsen (Cameroon). Pretty sure there've been a couple of others.

Had no idea about Jordi Murphy, and we can add Charlie Sharples (born Hong Kong) to the side.

John Barclay was born in Hong Kong as well.

Wayne Barnes has had a few caps for Wales and he was born in England. In fairness though he did go to school in Wales. Interestingly most of his caps have come against Ireland.

Vincent DeBatty - Belgium
Robert Barberini - Canada to Italy
Tim Visser - Holand
Paul Hill - Germany
Matt Kvesic - Germany
Serge Blanco - Venezuela

Dickson at 9 - Germany.

No 7&1/2 wrote:Dickson at 9 - Germany.

If you're born in an army base aren't you born on sovereign land of that particular nation rather the soil upon where it resides in?

Don't know. Hill and Kvesic are all forces families aren't they. All born in Germany I think.

FA

Military bases are still considered to be on the land of the country they are in. It's only embassies that are considered sovereign land of the 'owning' country.

dummy_half wrote:FA

Military bases are still considered to be on the land of the country they are in. It's only embassies that are considered sovereign land of the 'owning' country.

I know in America if you're born in a US military base its counted as being born in the USA itself (assuming your parent(s) is in the military). I guess its for some yes, for others no.