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Post by laverfan Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:27 am

First topic message reminder :

Schedule and Live Scores.

All four QFs are intriguing.

Raonic v Querrey - Raonic played a five-setter vs Goffin, while Querrey has been good nick. An upset with Querrey coming through, perhaps?

Federer v Cilic - Federer may have reached his limit. A miracle is needed for him to go through. I keep Pancho at the back of mind, though.

Berdych v Pouille - Big stage for Pouille. Berdych has experience, but Pouille has youth. The Vesely match may help Pouille with a bit of confidence.

MotD - Murray v Tsonga. Tsonga is a dangerous Grass player. Murray's taming of Kyrgios should give him faith in his own ability to get to Final.


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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:42 pm

Cilic doesn't want to win it. Fed doesn't want too take charge....

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:43 pm

Fed now gifting this away with so many awful BH errors

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:44 pm

lags72 wrote:The confidence is just lacking with Fed after so little success so far this season

That's a good point. Certainly could be a factor why he's so hesitant on crucial points

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Post by kingraf Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:46 pm

This is funny.
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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:47 pm

And FH errors too ...!!

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Post by kingraf Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:48 pm

This is funnier
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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:52 pm

This is mistake o'clock...

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Post by kingraf Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:52 pm

They're both playing so bad though
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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:54 pm

I hate seeing people choke stuff away

Toss of a coin now...

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:55 pm

What a set!! We're all square!! In much the same way that the pen shootout between Italy and Germany was amazing...but not for the quality!!

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:56 pm

It isn't great. Bit it's definitely got better as the games gone on. Still, neither taking the bull by the horns. Reliant on other players mistakes...

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:56 pm

Roger looks really slow for some reason. It's neeves from cilic that are keeping him alivr

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:57 pm

What's going on Marin..... Shocked

You're 27 and you're playing a tennis pensioner.

Put him away !!!

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 3:58 pm

It's great to see the old dog hanging on in there - the quality is not great, but with each occasion of drama and battle (with occasional flourishes) such as this Federer cements in his legend and Centre Court's affection for him.

It must be said that he is currently forcing a choke from Cilic, who should already have won this.
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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:00 pm

Cilic is done. Shame really he played well enough to deserve this

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:03 pm

That was well recoversd

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:03 pm

temporary21 wrote:Cilic is done. Shame really he played well enough to deserve this

Done ... Headscratch

Are you actually watching the match ...??

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:04 pm

Radio. All I have

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:05 pm

He's certainly not done!! There's nothing between them at mo. And hasn't been throughout the match really.

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:06 pm

You might need to retune the radio. Or move the aerial......

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:06 pm

Fair. Must look better than it sounds

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:09 pm

Cilic's movement is very poor for the younger man
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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:09 pm

temporary21 wrote:Roger looks really slow for some reason. It's neeves from cilic that are keeping him alivr

Eh? How can you tell from watching the radio?

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:10 pm

Well. I watched it live for about a minute. But risky though

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:14 pm

Virtual match poiny

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Post by R!skysports Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:14 pm

Poor game - neither looking like they deserve to go through. How many unforced errors

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:15 pm

The Fed's backhand is not letting him down now!


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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:15 pm

Huge hold though

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:15 pm

Until the point that really matters....


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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:18 pm

Shameful BP conversion stats by both in these latter stages.

This will come down to just one crucial error (there should be any number to choose from .... Wink )

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:22 pm

What a beautiful backhand dtl passing shot from Fed there
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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:25 pm

Game over. One that might haunt cilic till his retirement.

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Post by R!skysports Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:27 pm

On that performance, no-one will be worried about Fed - however that performance is unlikely to be repeated


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Post by mthierry Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:29 pm

Cilic has lost this. It's all set up for him to choke it. If the annoying, fawning crowd weren't going nuts at Cilic's errors and cheering for Federer like he was some local journeyman, he might have got over the line. That's one fortunate factor that will always be in Fed's favour till he retires: something the William sisters for example or Djokovic will never get from crowds.

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:29 pm

What a win for Fed. Absolutely amazing fight. My mortgage is safe. But Fed definitely improved as the match went on. Cilic's level stayed the same really. But it still was really a point here or there. That was it really. Cilic didn't choke for my money. He had match points. But was only 1 at a time. And always on Fed's serve.

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Post by LuvSports! Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:29 pm

OH YES!
OH YES!
ALLLLLEEEZZZZZZ! CHUM JETZE!

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:30 pm

He sounded second best for all but the final set. Its a little sad for cilic in the end.

No idea who will win wimby now. Maybe fed will just cruise it or maybe thst took s lot out of him

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Post by barrystar Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:32 pm

What an absolute legend he is, fantastic performance.  I still have Raonic as the favourite, but Fed has never lost a Semi Final at Wimbledon...

His 40th Slam Semi Final, namely the equivalent of making every SF for 10 years.  Extraordinary.
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Post by mthierry Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:33 pm

I think Murray will walk this tournament. Too many bottlers on tour. Just no one seems to be breaking through who has his head right.

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

He wasn't second best for all but final set. And I watched it all from ball 1. Set 1 was on a tie break. Fed had the only break points in that and didn take them. Set 2 to Cilic. Set 3 to Fed. Set 4 - Fed, just. And set 5 Fed. Cilic was winning 2 sets to love but he was never ahead in terms of level of play. It was a point here or there, literally, that made the difference. I think the stats will show the level of performance as being almost the same. It could have gone either way, I grant you but I don't buy this Cilic should have won.

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Post by TRuffin Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

Lets give Fed some credit- the guy clearly doesn't have his best fitness, slow movement, stiff-- but he fought like a warrior and pressured, pressured, pressured.. then raised his level at the right moment.

Prob too much to ask for him to be able to recover and get the title, and in the big scheme with his massive achievements, this will be forgotten, but given his problems this year- this was a legendary fight back.

I believe Fed now has the most comebacks from two sets down in history? or broke the tie for second..... underated warrior.

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

Raonic won't di it I think. Unless that took something out of Roger

Murray now needs to make his invitation to the final

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Post by laverfan Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

Good win for the Old Man. clap

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:36 pm

Well well. The old guy continues to surprise.

Well done Fed.

Cilic brought some of the best we've seen from him since that much-deserved USO title. Just not quite enough today.

(top pro that he is, I don't think we'll hear Marin bemoaning lack of crowd support for the loss picard He was mostly the better player)

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Post by Johnyjeep Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:37 pm

mthierry wrote:I think Murray will walk this tournament. Too many bottlers on tour. Just no one seems to be breaking through who has his head right.

Yes, certainly Murray playing the highest level at mo by some distance!!

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Post by temporary21 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:39 pm

It's deflating not in any part to Roger don't get me wrong

It's just we need new guys. Seeing a 35 year old with no need for more titles squeak through with thx to some nerves compared to a 25 year old who might be the future of tennis, but maybe not now could really hurt the sport in the next couple years

Not his fault of course but deflating for the future. Just fell bad for the guy it must be heartbreaking

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Post by Guest Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:43 pm

Great fight back from Fed but that match confirmed everything I've been saying.

Shanking, slow, stiff. He may get through Raonic but he'll be hammered by Murray - similar to the Olympic final.


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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:46 pm

temporary21 wrote:It's deflating not in any part to Roger don't get me wrong

...............................

Just fell bad for the guy it must be heartbreaking

R.Federer Esq. has broken the hearts of countless tennis players who can almost be heard telling themselves this is my big opportunity ....I just need to close it out .....

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Post by banbrotam Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:46 pm

Well done Roger. But we see why Cilic has struggled to gain any kind of momentum since his slam win

Fact is. The rest are all still very scared of the Top 4

Might be eating my words in a couple of hours, though Whistle

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Post by lags72 Wed 06 Jul 2016, 4:47 pm

emancipator wrote:Great fight back from Fed but that match confirmed everything I've been saying.

Shanking, slow, stiff. He may get through Raonic but he'll be hammered by Murray - similar to the Olympic final.


Perfect summary + projection OK

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