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Ospreys 16/17 season thread
First topic message reminder :
Rugby Management and Squad for 16/17
Head Coach Steve Tandy
Backs Gruff Rees
Forwards Chris Gibbes
Defence Brad Davis
Backs.
Dan Evans 3, Jeff Hassler 2, Dafydd Howells 2, Ashley Beck 2, Owen Watkin 3, Kieron Fonotia 2, Ben John 2, Tom Habberfield 3, Rhys Webb NDC 3?, Dan Biggar NDC 3, Eli Walker 1, Josh Matavesi 2, Tom Grabham 1, Brendon Leonard 2, Sam Davies 1, Hanno Dirksen 1, Keelan Giles 3
Forwards.
Olly Cracknell 2, Lloyd Ashley3, Bradley Davies NDC 3, Joe Bearman 1, Gareth Thomas 3, Hugh Gustafson 2, Adam Beard 3, Scott Otten 3, AWJ NDC 3, Dan Baker NDC 3, Rory Thornton NDC 3, Scott Baldwin NDC 3, James King NDC 2, Ma'afu Fia 2, Nicky Smith 3, Dmitri Arhip 2, Justin Tipuric 4, Sam Parry 2, Tyler Ardron 1, Paul James 2, Dan Suter 1, Rhodri Jones 2, and Sam Underhill 2 but on permit from Bridgend RFC.
Fixture list for 16/17
2/9 Zebre H Guinness W 59-5
10/9 Connacht A Guinness W 32-11
17/9 Treviso H Guinness W 64-10
23/9 Leinster A Guinness L 19-31
1/10 Ulster A Guinness L 7-9
7/10 Blues H Guinness W 46-24
15/10 London I H BIC L 14-25
14/10 Newcastle Falcons H RCC2 W 45-0
23/10 Cornish Pirates A BIC L 5-41
22/10 Lyon Olympique A RCC2 W 31-13
29/10 NGD H W W 35-15
4/11 Munster A Guinness L 0-33
11/11 Harlequins H AWC L 12-15
18/11 Blues A AWC W 31-7
25/12 Glasgow Warriors H Guinness W 22-5
2/12 Edinburgh H Guinness W 31-22
9/12 Grenoble H RCC W 59-7
10/12 Connacht Eagles A BIC W 20-17
17/12 Grenoble A RCC W 71-3
18/12 Connacht Eagles H BIC W 55-14
27/12 Scarlets H Guinness W 19-9
1/1 NGD A Guinness W 10-0
7/1 Connacht H Guinness W 29-7
14/1 Cornish Pirates H BIC L 10-34
15/1 Lyon H RCC W 47-7
21/1 Newcastle Falcons A RCC W 26-21
21/1 London I A BIC W 26-24
28/1 Bristol H AWC W 20-14
5/2 Wasps A AWC W 31-22
10/2 Zebre A Guinness W 40-10
18/2 Munster H Guinness L 23-25
26/2 Glasgow W H Guinness W 26-15
3/3 Edinburgh A Guinness W 13-9
25/3 Treviso A Guinness L 5-13
2/4 St. Francais H P/S RCC Q/F L 18-20
8/4 Leinster H Guinness L 18-20
15/4 Blues A Guinness L 17-35
29/4 Ulster H Guinness W 24-10
6/5 Scarlets A Guinness L 17-40
20/5 Munster A Guinness S/F
Will add RCC2 matches when they've been finalised.
Contrary to popular belief some of the Guinness League games will be affected by the Autumn Internationals, our players will be with TW when we play the Dragons, Munster and Glasgow Warriors, the first 2 because of the 13 day call up period and the Warriors because of the infernal 4th game which this year is against SA, and to think some people think everything is hunkydory now that Dodger Lewis has left his legacy rolls on.
The number after each player signifies how many years they have left on their Ospreys contract, there are a few others who are on either Development Contracts or appear not to be under contract, Jonathon Spratt, Jordan Collier, and Alex Jeffries and a few others come into that category.
Our first 5 games of the season account for the 2 Italians at home and 3 Irish, Connacht, Ulster and Leinster away, so we shouldn't have as bad a start as last season, but not as good as the previous seasons start, in certain positions especially during International periods we are only 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster, and I just hope Steve has learned his selection mistakes from the last few seasons.
Rugby Management and Squad for 16/17
Head Coach Steve Tandy
Backs Gruff Rees
Forwards Chris Gibbes
Defence Brad Davis
Backs.
Dan Evans 3, Jeff Hassler 2, Dafydd Howells 2, Ashley Beck 2, Owen Watkin 3, Kieron Fonotia 2, Ben John 2, Tom Habberfield 3, Rhys Webb NDC 3?, Dan Biggar NDC 3, Eli Walker 1, Josh Matavesi 2, Tom Grabham 1, Brendon Leonard 2, Sam Davies 1, Hanno Dirksen 1, Keelan Giles 3
Forwards.
Olly Cracknell 2, Lloyd Ashley3, Bradley Davies NDC 3, Joe Bearman 1, Gareth Thomas 3, Hugh Gustafson 2, Adam Beard 3, Scott Otten 3, AWJ NDC 3, Dan Baker NDC 3, Rory Thornton NDC 3, Scott Baldwin NDC 3, James King NDC 2, Ma'afu Fia 2, Nicky Smith 3, Dmitri Arhip 2, Justin Tipuric 4, Sam Parry 2, Tyler Ardron 1, Paul James 2, Dan Suter 1, Rhodri Jones 2, and Sam Underhill 2 but on permit from Bridgend RFC.
Fixture list for 16/17
2/9 Zebre H Guinness W 59-5
10/9 Connacht A Guinness W 32-11
17/9 Treviso H Guinness W 64-10
23/9 Leinster A Guinness L 19-31
1/10 Ulster A Guinness L 7-9
7/10 Blues H Guinness W 46-24
15/10 London I H BIC L 14-25
14/10 Newcastle Falcons H RCC2 W 45-0
23/10 Cornish Pirates A BIC L 5-41
22/10 Lyon Olympique A RCC2 W 31-13
29/10 NGD H W W 35-15
4/11 Munster A Guinness L 0-33
11/11 Harlequins H AWC L 12-15
18/11 Blues A AWC W 31-7
25/12 Glasgow Warriors H Guinness W 22-5
2/12 Edinburgh H Guinness W 31-22
9/12 Grenoble H RCC W 59-7
10/12 Connacht Eagles A BIC W 20-17
17/12 Grenoble A RCC W 71-3
18/12 Connacht Eagles H BIC W 55-14
27/12 Scarlets H Guinness W 19-9
1/1 NGD A Guinness W 10-0
7/1 Connacht H Guinness W 29-7
14/1 Cornish Pirates H BIC L 10-34
15/1 Lyon H RCC W 47-7
21/1 Newcastle Falcons A RCC W 26-21
21/1 London I A BIC W 26-24
28/1 Bristol H AWC W 20-14
5/2 Wasps A AWC W 31-22
10/2 Zebre A Guinness W 40-10
18/2 Munster H Guinness L 23-25
26/2 Glasgow W H Guinness W 26-15
3/3 Edinburgh A Guinness W 13-9
25/3 Treviso A Guinness L 5-13
2/4 St. Francais H P/S RCC Q/F L 18-20
8/4 Leinster H Guinness L 18-20
15/4 Blues A Guinness L 17-35
29/4 Ulster H Guinness W 24-10
6/5 Scarlets A Guinness L 17-40
20/5 Munster A Guinness S/F
Will add RCC2 matches when they've been finalised.
Contrary to popular belief some of the Guinness League games will be affected by the Autumn Internationals, our players will be with TW when we play the Dragons, Munster and Glasgow Warriors, the first 2 because of the 13 day call up period and the Warriors because of the infernal 4th game which this year is against SA, and to think some people think everything is hunkydory now that Dodger Lewis has left his legacy rolls on.
The number after each player signifies how many years they have left on their Ospreys contract, there are a few others who are on either Development Contracts or appear not to be under contract, Jonathon Spratt, Jordan Collier, and Alex Jeffries and a few others come into that category.
Our first 5 games of the season account for the 2 Italians at home and 3 Irish, Connacht, Ulster and Leinster away, so we shouldn't have as bad a start as last season, but not as good as the previous seasons start, in certain positions especially during International periods we are only 1 or 2 injuries away from disaster, and I just hope Steve has learned his selection mistakes from the last few seasons.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
wayne wrote:Could this be the straw that broke the Camels back as far as we are concerned, a very tough game with at the best a very inexperienced back 3 in the pack, and really not a very experienced team overall. We could take a real drubbing here.
Well that proved to be exactly correct, a total and absolute thrashing, some senior players need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
Well done Munster, although you didn't have to be very good to send us back home with our tails between our legs. [/quote]
The only positives I took from that shameful performance was that Giles and Beard must now know what's required to perform at a professional level.Joe B gave it everything but we looked way off the pace,missed tackles,dropped passes and our kicking was abysmal.As you say the players and coaches need to take a long hard look at themselves.It's not the loss but the manner of it.Where was the pride in the shirt.Glasgow await!
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
A pretty honest appraisal by Steve Tandy on the match, how we can lose 10, yes 10 lineouts and hope to stand a chance in a game like this is beyond belief. Credit to Munster on a number of steals, but it comes down to the fact that our best 3 lineout exponents this season were all missing, the only facet of this game that was satisfactory was the scrum, and let me say how Kilcoyne is allowed to continuously bore in is mystifying, Shane Byrne alluded to this in a number of scrums last night where we were penalised, and it should have been the other way around.
The inexperience of certain players not in their natural positions was really highlighted last night, Matavesi continually kicking to the wing that was covered, and not the other side that acres were not covered was mystifying. Why wasn't it communicated to him?
What really hurt us IMO, was not the numbers that were away with TW, but the numbers in strategic positions, O/H, 2ND ROW, and back row, not only with TW, but also injuries.
We still don't have the strength in depth required for this level, even though it is improving, anyway onward and upward.
The inexperience of certain players not in their natural positions was really highlighted last night, Matavesi continually kicking to the wing that was covered, and not the other side that acres were not covered was mystifying. Why wasn't it communicated to him?
What really hurt us IMO, was not the numbers that were away with TW, but the numbers in strategic positions, O/H, 2ND ROW, and back row, not only with TW, but also injuries.
We still don't have the strength in depth required for this level, even though it is improving, anyway onward and upward.
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Kieron Fonotia has arrived and after a medical, which thankfully showed he is ready to go. He is chomping at the bit to get out on the field, which going by other interviews will be against Cardiff Blues on the 18th at the CAP in the Anglo Welsh Cup.
Really looking forward to see him in action.
Really looking forward to see him in action.
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The good news just keeps on rolling in, the best 7 in Wales and available for Wales has signed a 2 year extension and commits to us until 2020.
Thanks for your commitment to us Justin Tipuric
Thanks for your commitment to us Justin Tipuric
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So we lose Keelan and gain Rory Thornton and Dan Baker for the weekend match against the Harlequins in the Anglo Welsh, even though the talk on our boards is that none of the first choices will be selected, mostly youngsters with a number of experienced players.
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Ospreys team to play Harlequins at St. Helens Swansea tomorrow night in the Anglo Welsh tournament
15 Dafydd Howells
14 Tom Grabham
13 Joe Thomas
12 Jonathon Spratt
11 Tom O'Flaherty
10 Luke Price
9 Mathew Aubrey
8 Dan Baker
7 Joe Tomalin-Reeves
6 Rob McCusker (cap)
5 Rory Thornton
4 James Ratti
3 Rhodri Jones (aaaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhh)
2 Scott Otten
1 Gareth Thomas
with Hugh Gustafson, Rowan Jenkins, Dan Suter, Rhys Jones, Sam Underhill, Phil Jones, Kieran Williams and Jay Baker on the bench. A real good blend in that team of experience and youth, except for the inclusion of Rhodri Jones a pretty decent team selected, can't wait to see if Underhill is back fit, and apparently the replacement O/H Phil Jones is very highly thought of, never having seen him play myself.
It will also be very nice to visit the old Ospreys ground St. Helens again. The only bad thing is that it is forecast to pour tomorrow around kick off time.
15 Dafydd Howells
14 Tom Grabham
13 Joe Thomas
12 Jonathon Spratt
11 Tom O'Flaherty
10 Luke Price
9 Mathew Aubrey
8 Dan Baker
7 Joe Tomalin-Reeves
6 Rob McCusker (cap)
5 Rory Thornton
4 James Ratti
3 Rhodri Jones (aaaaaarrrrrrrggggghhhh)
2 Scott Otten
1 Gareth Thomas
with Hugh Gustafson, Rowan Jenkins, Dan Suter, Rhys Jones, Sam Underhill, Phil Jones, Kieran Williams and Jay Baker on the bench. A real good blend in that team of experience and youth, except for the inclusion of Rhodri Jones a pretty decent team selected, can't wait to see if Underhill is back fit, and apparently the replacement O/H Phil Jones is very highly thought of, never having seen him play myself.
It will also be very nice to visit the old Ospreys ground St. Helens again. The only bad thing is that it is forecast to pour tomorrow around kick off time.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
My first visit to St Helens was in December1963 to see the All Whites v the All Blacks.I went with my Uncle Ted.I'd been taken by my Uncle Ernie to see Newport v the All Blacks in October and the B&A's had won.My Uncle Ted told my Uncle Ernie that they'd won because they'd played the AB reserves.They didn't speak for 6 years.My other abiding memory from St Helens was Billy Mainwaring's Mum screaming abuse from the Stand at the Swansea forwards to leave her son alone,whilst Billy was fronting up.Happy days.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
I had a very enjoyable night at St. Helens last night, although we lost, the form of the 8 or 9 youngsters who were making their debuts for us was excellent, let me just say that Luke Price our O/H totally outplayed Scottish International Ruaridh Jackson,who missed a kick at goal that I would back myself to put over.
There were 2 Major factors that contributed to that defeat, one of which I highlighted BEFORE the game Rhodri Jones, he was penalised about half a dozen times at the scrum which enabled the Quins to kick to the corners, from which both their tries came. The other was the officiating of the offside by the 3 WELSH officials, I don't think we were awarded a single penalty for Quins infringements when we should have had them awarded in DOUBLE figures, and to cap it all off he awarded one to them in the 73rd minute which the replacement O/H converted, it is a pity Jackson wasn't still on the field because he would have missed.
Quins are very fortunate there was NOT a citing commissioner at this match, as Adam Jones was yellow carded in the first half for a high tackle
and in the 2nd he was involved in a bit of a fracas with our 2nd row Rory Thornton and Adam's fingers went straight to the eye area of Rory, he is a very lucky boy.
Special thanks have to go to 2 of our youngsters last night Tom O'Flaherty scored our first try through a narrow gap in the corner, and he made an absolutely beautiful run in the 2nd half beating about half a dozen defenders in a fifty yard mazy run, our outside centre Joe Thomas who played for Wales U20s last season made a couple of breaks and made about 40 to 50 yards and if a couple of the receiving players had taken the ball we would have clearly won this game.
Very happy that our development pathway is still churning out these exciting prospects, and finally it was so good to see Sam Underhill making a welcome return to the playing surface last night.
There were 2 Major factors that contributed to that defeat, one of which I highlighted BEFORE the game Rhodri Jones, he was penalised about half a dozen times at the scrum which enabled the Quins to kick to the corners, from which both their tries came. The other was the officiating of the offside by the 3 WELSH officials, I don't think we were awarded a single penalty for Quins infringements when we should have had them awarded in DOUBLE figures, and to cap it all off he awarded one to them in the 73rd minute which the replacement O/H converted, it is a pity Jackson wasn't still on the field because he would have missed.
Quins are very fortunate there was NOT a citing commissioner at this match, as Adam Jones was yellow carded in the first half for a high tackle
and in the 2nd he was involved in a bit of a fracas with our 2nd row Rory Thornton and Adam's fingers went straight to the eye area of Rory, he is a very lucky boy.
Special thanks have to go to 2 of our youngsters last night Tom O'Flaherty scored our first try through a narrow gap in the corner, and he made an absolutely beautiful run in the 2nd half beating about half a dozen defenders in a fifty yard mazy run, our outside centre Joe Thomas who played for Wales U20s last season made a couple of breaks and made about 40 to 50 yards and if a couple of the receiving players had taken the ball we would have clearly won this game.
Very happy that our development pathway is still churning out these exciting prospects, and finally it was so good to see Sam Underhill making a welcome return to the playing surface last night.
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Dan Baker has signed a contract extension with the Ospreys, he has signed until the summer of 2019, it doesn't include him being on a National Dual Contract, so that will please a lot on here, it wasn't mentioned at the time how long the NDC was for, and at the same time Scott Baldwin, Rory Thornton and James King were put on NDCs. I wonder if there will be other announcements in the next few weeks?
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I've heard talk of the Ospreys looking to sign Will Boyde from us. Is it just good old fashioned panicking from our side of the bridge, or is there any truth in it?
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ScarletSpiderman wrote:I've heard talk of the Ospreys looking to sign Will Boyde from us. Is it just good old fashioned panicking from our side of the bridge, or is there any truth in it?
SS, Once a Monkey has also mentioned this on our board, I don't know how true this is.
Edit Just had a look at my OP, and Tyler Ardron is on his last year with us, and with his injury record over the last couple of seasons perhaps we are looking at Boyde as a replacement, that could help with our NWQ quota, or even Sam Underhill could be enticed back to England after 2 years of his 3 year contract.
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The same reasons have been mentioned on our boards too. Hoping it's not true, but he'd be a logical signing I guess.
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Strong Ospreys squad selected for Anglo Welsh match against Cardiff Blues at the C.A.P. tomorrow night, with about half a dozen of the youngsters who were selected last week still in the squad. The only departure from a strong squad is the retention of Rhodri Jones in the tight head position.
Team is as follows
15 Dafydd Howells, 14 Tom Grabham, 13 Joe Thomas, 12 Jonathon Spratt, 11 Eli Walker, 10 Phil Jones, 9 Brendon Leonard, 8 Rob McCusker (c)
7 Sam Underhill, 6 Olly Cracknell, 5 Rory Thornton, 4 Adam Beard, 3 Rhodri Jones, 2 Scott Otten 1 Gareth Thomas with Sam Parry, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, James Ratti, Joe Bearman, Mathew Aubrey, Dan Evans and Tom O'Flaherty on the bench.
Apart from the inclusion of Jones in the front row, what disappoints me most is the non inclusion of The Fonz (Kieron Fonotia) in the matchday squad, really looking forward to seeing plenty of the youngster Phil Jones at 10. Plenty of people on our board have seen him in action and have been impressed. Didn't see enough of him last week to make a judgement
Team is as follows
15 Dafydd Howells, 14 Tom Grabham, 13 Joe Thomas, 12 Jonathon Spratt, 11 Eli Walker, 10 Phil Jones, 9 Brendon Leonard, 8 Rob McCusker (c)
7 Sam Underhill, 6 Olly Cracknell, 5 Rory Thornton, 4 Adam Beard, 3 Rhodri Jones, 2 Scott Otten 1 Gareth Thomas with Sam Parry, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, James Ratti, Joe Bearman, Mathew Aubrey, Dan Evans and Tom O'Flaherty on the bench.
Apart from the inclusion of Jones in the front row, what disappoints me most is the non inclusion of The Fonz (Kieron Fonotia) in the matchday squad, really looking forward to seeing plenty of the youngster Phil Jones at 10. Plenty of people on our board have seen him in action and have been impressed. Didn't see enough of him last week to make a judgement
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Ospreys win 31-7 half time it was 7-7, we didn't pull away till the Russian prop was red carded in around the 55th minute, tries were scored for us by Otten, Leonard, O'Flaherty (2) and Dan Evans 3 were converted by our young 10 Phil Jones.
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Wayne, the main thing is that when the opera unity was presented your boys seized it.
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I hope it isn't true about the red card being for biting. Disgusting if it is.
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wayne wrote:Ospreys win 31-7 half time it was 7-7, we didn't pull away till the Russian prop was red carded in around the 55th minute, tries were scored for us by Otten, Leonard, O'Flaherty (2) and Dan Evans 3 were converted by our young 10 Phil Jones.
I believe he is Georgian? That is a great result for a young Ospreys team. Cardiff put out a pretty good side themselves and looking at the team-sheets I thought they might edge it. Cardiff play some exciting rugby but their results seem a bit inconsistent so far this season when expectations were high.
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RiscaGame wrote:I hope it isn't true about the red card being for biting. Disgusting if it is.
Yes mentioned on our forum and confirmed in the Fail, with direct attribution by Ben Whitehouse, what a piece of rubbish he must be, deserves a few months off.
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ScarletSpiderman wrote:Wayne, the main thing is that when the opera unity was presented your boys seized it.
Sorry SS, what is this in answer to?
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Both our wingers were injured last night, with Hassler out for quite a while, and Dirksen not due back for a few weeks, our back 3 resources are being stretched to the limit, I don't know if we will take a chance with the youngster O'Flaherty after another very impressive performance last night, following on from his impressive debut last week, scoring another 2 tries, apparently the scrum was again poor with Rhodri very poor although he was supposedly excellent about the field.
The mix of experience with a few youngsters seemed to go down very well, would be nice to have a few of TW back for the visit to Glasgow next week.
The mix of experience with a few youngsters seemed to go down very well, would be nice to have a few of TW back for the visit to Glasgow next week.
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wayne wrote:ScarletSpiderman wrote:Wayne, the main thing is that when the opera unity was presented your boys seized it.
Sorry SS, what is this in answer to?
You sounded down beat that it was close prior to the card. But the truth is you can only play what's in front of you, and when they went a man down your lads seized the opportunity (not opera unity, bloody auto-correct) and banged in the tries.
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wayne wrote:Both our wingers were injured last night, with Hassler out for quite a while, and Dirksen not due back for a few weeks, our back 3 resources are being stretched to the limit, I don't know if we will take a chance with the youngster O'Flaherty after another very impressive performance last night, following on from his impressive debut last week, scoring another 2 tries, apparently the scrum was again poor with Rhodri very poor although he was supposedly excellent about the field.
The mix of experience with a few youngsters seemed to go down very well, would be nice to have a few of TW back for the visit to Glasgow next week.
I have to agree with you on Rhodri, never been good at his primary role. Perhaps he's a No.8...
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ScarletSpiderman wrote:wayne wrote:ScarletSpiderman wrote:Wayne, the main thing is that when the opera unity was presented your boys seized it.
Sorry SS, what is this in answer to?
You sounded down beat that it was close prior to the card. But the truth is you can only play what's in front of you, and when they went a man down your lads seized the opportunity (not opera unity, bloody auto-correct) and banged in the tries.
Oh right SS, yes you are right, you can only play what's in front of you, I was slightly downbeat because of the way we scored the first try and couldn't add to it, I expected it to carry on.
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uncle_nigel wrote:wayne wrote:Both our wingers were injured last night, with Hassler out for quite a while, and Dirksen not due back for a few weeks, our back 3 resources are being stretched to the limit, I don't know if we will take a chance with the youngster O'Flaherty after another very impressive performance last night, following on from his impressive debut last week, scoring another 2 tries, apparently the scrum was again poor with Rhodri very poor although he was supposedly excellent about the field.
The mix of experience with a few youngsters seemed to go down very well, would be nice to have a few of TW back for the visit to Glasgow next week.
I have to agree with you on Rhodri, never been good at his primary role. Perhaps he's a No.8...
Nige, there is an interesting debate on our forum about whether Rhodri would even make a decent loosehead now, because of his shape and size, there are very few looseheads built like him on the world scene, it's a pity because he's a good carrier in the open.
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BBBD, released injured back to us from TW, James King was the player used in todays PC, so neither are likely to be available for us for this weekends game against Glasgow. The announcement for the selected Wales team for this weekends game has been put back until Thursday, so probably the only Ospreys players released from the Welsh squad will be Rory Thornton and Dan Baker, with the slight possibility that Keelan Giles might be released and the even more possibility that Sam Davies could be released, and if it is Thursday that they could be released it will be too late to integrate them for Friday night's game.
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Young Osprey player Keelan Giles nominated for BBC Young Sports Personality of the year, he is one of 10, which includes Olympic and Paralympic medal winners nominated, the short list will be cut to 3 in December.
Good Luck Keelan.
Good Luck Keelan.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
After that performance against Glasgow last night, we really are developing strength in depth right across the park, the only position that really worries me is Full back, cover for Dan Evans is essential IMO, Rhodri Jones is a week link as a tighthead, but as he showed last night his loose play is very good.
There is increasing amounts of talk on our Forum about the availability of James Hook, he would be good cover for a number of positions and would be excellent as a goalkicker, this was the one area of Matavesi's game last night that was below par. There is even talk that Hook would be let go for the right fee immediately, this could be a good investment at this time.
There is increasing amounts of talk on our Forum about the availability of James Hook, he would be good cover for a number of positions and would be excellent as a goalkicker, this was the one area of Matavesi's game last night that was below par. There is even talk that Hook would be let go for the right fee immediately, this could be a good investment at this time.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Delighted to announce that Sam Davies has signed a long term contract to stay with us, his present contract was due to run out at the end of this season.
Hopefully this will quash all the Sam to Scarlets rumours especially on Scarlet Fever.
Our website doesn't give the exact number of years, but normally when we give a long term contract it is for 3 years.
Hopefully this will quash all the Sam to Scarlets rumours especially on Scarlet Fever.
Our website doesn't give the exact number of years, but normally when we give a long term contract it is for 3 years.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Well that is our backup for Dan Evans sorted next season, James Hook has signed a 3 year contract from next season, he can cover when the 2 best outside halves available to Wales are away.
Great news
Great news
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Hook can cover a good few positions so a great signing plus lots of experience to call on
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Sad news that Dan Lydiate is out for the rest of this season after having to undergo an operation on Anterior Cruciate Ligament damage when playing for Wales.
Although it is bad news for both the Ospreys and Wales I'm pleased that it wont affect us (Ospreys) too much, because of our remarkable strength in depth in the back row.
Although it is bad news for both the Ospreys and Wales I'm pleased that it wont affect us (Ospreys) too much, because of our remarkable strength in depth in the back row.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
wayne wrote:Sad news that Dan Lydiate is out for the rest of this season after having to undergo an operation on Anterior Cruciate Ligament damage when playing for Wales.
Although it is bad news for both the Ospreys and Wales I'm pleased that it wont affect us (Ospreys) too much, because of our remarkable strength in depth in the back row.
Don't want to see anyone injured, and I hope he makes a decent recovery, but a little part of me thinks 'oh the irony...'
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
lostinwales wrote:wayne wrote:Sad news that Dan Lydiate is out for the rest of this season after having to undergo an operation on Anterior Cruciate Ligament damage when playing for Wales.
Although it is bad news for both the Ospreys and Wales I'm pleased that it wont affect us (Ospreys) too much, because of our remarkable strength in depth in the back row.
Don't want to see anyone injured, and I hope he makes a decent recovery, but a little part of me thinks 'oh the irony...'
Explain please.
wayne- Posts : 3183
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
The team we play in the double header in the RCC2 competition starting this weekend, Grenoble are bottom of the T14 and have lost their last 6 meaningful matches, so there is really very little excuse for us not getting into the Q/F of this competition. I would presume that they would be putting out a severely depleted squad for this game and would be keeping the top players for the T14, when it resumes.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
lostinwales wrote:wayne wrote:Sad news that Dan Lydiate is out for the rest of this season after having to undergo an operation on Anterior Cruciate Ligament damage when playing for Wales.
Although it is bad news for both the Ospreys and Wales I'm pleased that it wont affect us (Ospreys) too much, because of our remarkable strength in depth in the back row.
Don't want to see anyone injured, and I hope he makes a decent recovery, but a little part of me thinks 'oh the irony...'
Since when has Lydiate caused an opposing player to get an injury like that?
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
wayne wrote:Well that is our backup for Dan Evans sorted next season, James Hook has signed a 3 year contract from next season, he can cover when the 2 best outside halves available to Wales are away.
Great news
Fantastic signing. A Hook, Matavesi and Fonotia partnership during internationals suits me fine
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
True Raven wrote:wayne wrote:Well that is our backup for Dan Evans sorted next season, James Hook has signed a 3 year contract from next season, he can cover when the 2 best outside halves available to Wales are away.
Great news
Fantastic signing. A Hook, Matavesi and Fonotia partnership during internationals suits me fine
TR and with the likes of Watkin and Ben John pushing them, things are really looking up.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Matavesi could be away with Fiji in the future?
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
uncle_nigel wrote:Matavesi could be away with Fiji in the future?
Mikey, yes he could be, but if you go by this Autumn's games, he was called up to play against England, but then came back to us even though Fiji played the following weekend, what arrangement was made I don't know, but there was no controversy as far as I know.
Also even if he was called up, we would still have the likes of Fonotia, Beck, Watkin, John, Spratt and a young kid who showed up very well in both Anglo Welsh games Joe Thomas, so unless there was a large injury crisis we should be ok.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Hopefully something like the following will be selected later today for tomorrow's game against Grenoble
Dan Evans, Keelan Giles, Kieron Fonotia, Ashley Beck, Dafydd Howells, Dan Biggar, Tom Habberfield, Paul James, Sam Parry, Dmitri Arhip, Lloyd Ashley, Rory Thornton, James King, Sam Underhill, Dan Baker, with Scott Otten, Nicky Smith, Ma'afu Fia, AWJ, Justin Tipuric, Brendon Leonard, Sam Davies and Josh Matavesi on the bench, apart from Scott Otten all the bench all started last week, Scott comes in because there are reports Scott Baldwin is still undergoing HIA protocols
We cannot afford to have less than 4 points from this game, and that team should be able to deliver that.
Dan Evans, Keelan Giles, Kieron Fonotia, Ashley Beck, Dafydd Howells, Dan Biggar, Tom Habberfield, Paul James, Sam Parry, Dmitri Arhip, Lloyd Ashley, Rory Thornton, James King, Sam Underhill, Dan Baker, with Scott Otten, Nicky Smith, Ma'afu Fia, AWJ, Justin Tipuric, Brendon Leonard, Sam Davies and Josh Matavesi on the bench, apart from Scott Otten all the bench all started last week, Scott comes in because there are reports Scott Baldwin is still undergoing HIA protocols
We cannot afford to have less than 4 points from this game, and that team should be able to deliver that.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Wasn't too far out with my selected Team and squad, the only changes were Matavesi starting instead of Beck, AWJ instead of Ashley and Tipuric instead of Underhill, on the bench Rhodri Jones instead of Fia who is out injured, and I was correct in the fact that Scott Baldwin is out because of HIA protocols.
Really a very strong team put out, hope I can find a stream to watch this game.
Really a very strong team put out, hope I can find a stream to watch this game.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
I'm starting to believe Matavesi might just be one of Ospreys best and most significant signings since their inception. It should be a bonus point win against Grenoble, they've been much worse in this competition and I don't think they're taking it seriously.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
uncle_nigel wrote:I'm starting to believe Matavesi might just be one of Ospreys best and most significant signings since their inception. It should be a bonus point win against Grenoble, they've been much worse in this competition and I don't think they're taking it seriously.
Mikey their team has been put on our website and it is a completely changed 15 from their Top 14 game last weekend, so they are not taking it seriously, yes we should be going for a BP win tomorrow.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Tonight's game called off. Frozen Pitch.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
It's being played this evening. I take it it's not on TV again?
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Won 59 - 7. 9 tries, the 2 wingers Dafydd Howells and Keelan Giles 2 tries apiece, Matavesi, Fonotia, Biggar, Parry and AWJ one each, by all accounts Grenoble were abysmal. WTF they will be like next week is gobsmacking, with the normal travelling French interest in this tournament.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
wayne wrote:Won 59 - 7. 9 tries, the 2 wingers Dafydd Howells and Keelan Giles 2 tries apiece, Matavesi, Fonotia, Biggar, Parry and AWJ one each, by all accounts Grenoble were abysmal. WTF they will be like next week is gobsmacking, with the normal travelling French interest in this tournament.
Like a very excited jack russell in the park; impossible to tackle and tremendous fun to watch. More please.
Biggest win ever at the Library looming large, I reckon.
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Re: Ospreys 16/17 season thread
Cardiff Dave wrote:wayne wrote:Won 59 - 7. 9 tries, the 2 wingers Dafydd Howells and Keelan Giles 2 tries apiece, Matavesi, Fonotia, Biggar, Parry and AWJ one each, by all accounts Grenoble were abysmal. WTF they will be like next week is gobsmacking, with the normal travelling French interest in this tournament.
Like a very excited jack russell in the park; impossible to tackle and tremendous fun to watch. More please.
Biggest win ever at the Library looming large, I reckon.
Nah, we're only after 5 points so we're putting out our U18s
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