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Post by Afro Tue 02 Jan 2018, 9:34 am

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Welcome  to the Miky Challenge League






This Week's Fixtures

Season 2 TBC




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Team_________Manager
Kalamazoo Outrage_________Hero
Shakhtar Senseless_________Marky
Fußball_________Trebs
SAS_________Olly
Melbourne Victory_________Afro
Deportivo Wanka_________Nando
Olympique Marswag_________Miky
Melbourne City_________Twist
Wellington Pheonix_________Bam
Fiorentina Turner_________Tino
Match_________Transfer_________Other
Fixtures_________Lawyers_________Rules
Table_________Foreigns_________Youth Rules
Injuries_________Releases_________Press Conferences
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Post by Afro Thu 25 Jan 2018, 4:53 pm

Sorry, the boss came in....

For me, the cap needs to be £60m minimum to allow for enough players in each position to become available
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Post by Marky Thu 25 Jan 2018, 4:58 pm

Miky?

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Post by BamBam Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:11 pm

I would say 54m based on that and without looking at who actually fits into that

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Post by Trebs Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:36 pm

Cheers for the work afro - you must be bored Laugh

I argued when we set up this league that we have to permanently lock values by going down that route, because its pointless locking it for one season as season two would just be the usual stock market league. And it's going to be a case of who gets the best lawyers first.

I also can't see how a cap of say 50m will help with longevity. All you'll get is a messy season three with very few players available.

There are three options for the end of the season/start of season 2 IMO.

1. Artificially weaken everyone's side, forcing sales of a percentage of overall squad value.

2. Keep the locked values and continue with the league using these. Nobody will agree to this though, as there's a vested interest from those that have planned more for this.

3. Have no cap for season 2, then end the league at the end of that season. A year isn't a bad run for a league.

I would also suggest that we have to use some kind of bidding system to ensure fairness. There will be players over 30m which several managers will want and first come, first served isn't right.

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Post by Marky Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:40 pm

We absolutely HAVE to set a date for new TM values to apply to existing players, otherwise I'm not sure many people will be happy.

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Post by Afro Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:50 pm

BamBam wrote:I would say 54m based on that and without looking at who actually fits into that

I now own a list of all 98 players above £30m and not in the league if you want it!!!
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Post by Afro Thu 25 Jan 2018, 5:53 pm

Trebs wrote:Cheers for the work afro - you must be bored Laugh

You should have seen the real work alternative
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Post by Holymiky Thu 25 Jan 2018, 7:02 pm

Marky wrote:We absolutely HAVE to set a date for new TM values to apply to existing players, otherwise I'm not sure many people will be happy.

I kind of get this but can you elaborate in case please

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Post by Trebs Thu 25 Jan 2018, 7:06 pm

Holymiky wrote:
Marky wrote:We absolutely HAVE to set a date for new TM values to apply to existing players, otherwise I'm not sure many people will be happy.

I kind of get this but can you elaborate in case please

There will be a date where new TM values are relevant and the old ones are discarded. What date is this?

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Post by Marky Thu 25 Jan 2018, 7:06 pm

Holymiky wrote:
Marky wrote:We absolutely HAVE to set a date for new TM values to apply to existing players, otherwise I'm not sure many people will be happy.

I kind of get this but can you elaborate in case please

Start of season 1, TM Values were frozen.

So, start of season 2, TM Values should be frozen at their new values.

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Post by Afro Thu 25 Jan 2018, 7:32 pm

I think in terms of setting a date, we either have to say it’s the Tuesday after the last game of season 1 or the Tuesday before the tactics are due for game 1 of season 2
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Post by Trebs Thu 25 Jan 2018, 7:47 pm

I would say it's more important to ensure it's not mid-update than getting the week right. I'd even argue we could lock after the last few updates are done very soon.

Could you imagine if half the major euro leagues did an update and others didn't right before the cut off.

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Post by TwisT Fri 26 Jan 2018, 10:22 pm

I'm cool with anything regarding a cap limit.

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Post by Afro Sat 27 Jan 2018, 9:40 am

Is there likely to be another major update before we start season 2?

There’s only just been one on all the major leagues.

There is always the risk of it, but now is probably as low a risk time as any
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Post by Hero Sat 27 Jan 2018, 10:02 am

I don't think there will be but some leagues have had 2 updates and some only 1 (Spain has had 1)

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Post by TwisT Sat 27 Jan 2018, 5:06 pm

Diabante scores twice. Bout as good a piece of news I had today #hateborehamwood

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Post by Holymiky Sat 27 Jan 2018, 6:48 pm

Tactics up, results in to me Monday night please

Afro - not sure if Tino spoke to you at all but his wife got taken into hospital on Friday and i havent heard anything from him other than he understandably wouldn't be able to get tactics in. We may have to postpone if you are okay with that but ill try and find out for you. 

As for his votes, i will need a volunteer for the Kalamazoo Outrage v SAS game (that isn't Afro or Marky) please to do an extra vote.

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Post by Afro Sat 27 Jan 2018, 10:30 pm

Let’s postpone it Miky. Some things are more important
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Post by Afro Mon 29 Jan 2018, 8:51 pm

Votes in.
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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 9:37 am

Morning guys, are we postponing everything for a week? We will have a knock on effect of results not going up and not receiving bonuses because we can't vote on Afro' s game.

More importantly Tinos situation comes first.

I suggest that transfers and foreigns can still be done this week. But lawyers and injuries get postponed to next week, where we will start week 15.

Good idea?

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Post by Hero Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:31 am

I've an issue in that I'm off to Austria this week until next Tuesday, hopefully all fine with wifi but can't guarantee.

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Post by Trebs Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:32 am

Agree with twist. Think a week off is sensible.

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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:35 am

Hero wrote:I've an issue in that I'm off to Austria this week until next Tuesday, hopefully all fine with wifi but can't guarantee.

So if I have read that right you could do with a week off? No game this weekend and we start week 15 on the 6th of Feb?

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Post by Marky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:41 am

Fine by me. I'll still do my voting today but if Miky agrees I'm willing to partake in a week off to reset things.

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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:47 am

Yeah I suggest if people can vote for game 14 as usual then do so. Then Miky will have everything, hopefully, to post the results of week 14 on Monday 5th.

Those, like me, that are voting on Afro and Tinos game can wait until it is posted, hopefully this weekend.

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Post by Afro Tue 30 Jan 2018, 11:01 am

No problem for me.
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Post by Holymiky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 1:13 pm

We can have Week 15 off, but i want Week 14 votes from people who can by the end of today ideally please (7pm) or as close to.

Then we can close off this week and carry on fresh from Tuesday 6th Feb.

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Post by Marky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 4:49 pm

Just seen Bilbao have replaced Laporte with Inigo Martinez from Sociedad. That's a ballsy move isn't it?! Aren't they massive rivals?

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Post by Afro Tue 30 Jan 2018, 6:18 pm

Massive rivals. They paid his release clause so Sociedad couldn’t stop him, but seems there was nothing in the Barca rumours.

He’s going to be popular at the Basque derby in april
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Post by Marky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 7:13 pm

I did my vote before 7pm and then my phone crashed before I sent it. As I'll no doubt miss the bonus I'll do it in a while.

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Post by Holymiky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 8:22 pm

I'm not in any rush considering people want a break anyway and i agreed to it.

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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 8:28 pm

Afro wrote:Massive rivals. They paid his release clause so Sociedad couldn’t stop him, but seems there was nothing in the Barca rumours.

He’s going to be popular at the Basque derby in april

Good move for me at least.

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Post by BamBam Tue 30 Jan 2018, 8:40 pm

Bit of a sideways step imo, would have expected bigger teams would be in for him given the City/Barca links

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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 9:01 pm

BamBam wrote:Bit of a sideways step imo, would have expected bigger teams would be in for him given the City/Barca links

A step is a step so I will take it Laugh

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Post by TwisT Tue 30 Jan 2018, 9:47 pm

Emerson now at Chelsea. I'm doing ok this window. He will be understudy to Alonso but should get game time.

Just need Arthur, Dendoncker and Neres to move now.

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Post by Holymiky Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:49 pm

Gonna do results tomorrow night, going off early tonight and not had enough votes yet.

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Post by TwisT Wed 31 Jan 2018, 9:52 am

Why don't you wait until next Monday Miky? Hopefully you would have them all then.

Posting them now or next Monday doesn't matter too much because we are missing a game

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Post by Holymiky Wed 31 Jan 2018, 4:17 pm

True, maybe i'll do that then, i havent had anymore since yesterday anyway.

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Post by TwisT Thu 01 Feb 2018, 10:08 am

I'm guessing the great spring clean begins now.

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Post by TwisT Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:51 am

We all good to go to start this week?

I haven't checked yet but have we got tactics for dwarfs v Turner? If I so I can vote

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Post by Trebs Mon 05 Feb 2018, 1:36 pm

Hope everyone is well after a week off.

I am currently without a phone which massively limits my time on here, but hopefully that should be sorted this week.

When can we expect results?

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Post by Hero Mon 05 Feb 2018, 5:33 pm

I'm back from Austria tomorrow evening x

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Post by Holymiky Mon 05 Feb 2018, 7:53 pm

Im gonna do results now pretty much.

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Post by Afro Mon 05 Feb 2018, 8:36 pm

Did you get any tactics from Tino?
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Post by Holymiky Mon 05 Feb 2018, 8:51 pm

No, we are postponing the game.

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Post by Afro Mon 05 Feb 2018, 9:34 pm

Okay. No problem postponing.

Although I’d like the fact that I started Nunez and Til to count. If the game had been played, Nunez would have qualified for a value in case he is drawn for Lawyers.
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Post by Holymiky Mon 05 Feb 2018, 9:57 pm

To be fair, at this point i just want week 14 over with so we can move on, can't finish it til i get votes from Olly (surprise surprise).

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Post by TwisT Mon 05 Feb 2018, 10:11 pm

I've kinda given up now myself Laugh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 06 Feb 2018, 6:44 am

Holymiky wrote:To be fair, at this point i just want week 14 over with so we can move on, can't finish it til i get votes from Olly (surprise surprise).

What’s a surprise?
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Post by Trebs Tue 06 Feb 2018, 12:56 pm

Want me to draw this week's injuries and lawyers?

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