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This Week's Fixtures

Week 17
Perth Morning Glory  v Melbourne City
Melbourne Victory  v Sydney FC
Brisbane Roar  v Adelaide United
Newcastle Jets  v Wellington Phoenix
Western Sydney Wanderers  v Central Coast Mariners
 

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This Week's Key Deadlines

- 2 new Lawyers drawn on Tuesday
- Injuries drawn Wednesday
- 2 releases per week max
- Tactics due Friday

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Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VM9eIonYMyXCXpQOBjAJylh3wihazcw8RKtLLHiD8HI/htmlview#gid=1996389080

Team	_________	Manager
Adelaide United	_________	Hero
Brisbane Roar	_________	Miky
Central Coast Mariners	_________	Olly
Melbourne City	_________	Twist
Melbourne Victory	_________	Afro
Newcastle Jets	_________	Nadz
Perth Glory	_________	Marky
Sid Knee CF	_________	Nando
Wellington Phoenix	_________	Bam
WS Wanderers	_________	Tino

Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures/Results	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
Tactics	_________	Confirmation	_________
	_________	Loans	_________

Afro's custom tactics

Width 100
Full backs - always overlap
Wingers - stay wide

Our game is up Marky. Let me know when you’ve watched.

Just watched it.

My side are Arsenal as f*ck

With the ball, we look really good. Like Arsenal.

Without the ball, we're really bad. Like Arsenal.

Im getting the softest penalties. That’s the third one recently where I couldn’t work out what it was for.

Reus could have had another 2 goals, I’ve found a system that suits him.

Just to explain how soft I thought your penalty was, I thought the ref had given a free kick to me

I had a similar one against Nadz.

No matter how many times I’ve watched I still can’t work out what it was for.

Reus up to 7 goals now though and leading scorer in the league

Afro wrote:I had a similar one against Nadz.

No matter how many times I’ve watched I still can’t work out what it was for.

Reus up to 7 goals now though and joint leading scorer in the league

Fixed

I assume Bale scores for you? Will look at the other scores now and update google sheets

Yeah Bale, Aubameyang and Silva all got on the scoresheet for me

2nd half was probably my best performance of the season. The Silva goal was real class.

Looks like you have done Twist v Olly instead of Twist v Miky

lol Twist watched it live and none of us noticed!

Hero wrote:lol Twist watched it live and none of us noticed!

Yep completely passed me by. Welcome mistake though as the game was awful. Might end up losing a point but hopefully the game will be more entertaining!

Title race back on

Officially a two horse race now.

My game is well worth seeing just for the second half. A first goal that could have been offside, a second from outside the box and an absolutely blinding goal saving tackle right at the end.

As this season is now drawing to a close we need to decide upon the format properly for season 3.
I'm away for the week of the 10th-17th August (Friday to Friday).

Seems pretty sensible to start season three when you're back then?

The last week of games would be the weekend of 4/5 August, would give us two weeks break before s3.

We need to decide what the cut off date will be for TM values, and how many games the 3rd season will be

My preference would be to run a shortened season then go for FIFA 19 with a view to a longer running game, but I know many disagree so happy to go with the majority

I am on hols for two weeks from 17th August to 1st September.

Oh and I'm also away 9th Sep - 13th Sep but that's a Sunday to Thursday so shouldn't affect anything.

Afro wrote:I am on hols for two weeks from 17th August to 1st September.

I can always do tactics up front and just have it changed for injuries, the same as Bam has done before, in the weeks I am away.

But it would be good to get a plan of how long a season, when it starts, what lawyers, foreigns, releases are allowed etc we will do in the meanwhile

My thoughts are:

Length of season - same as season 2
Week 1 start date - 21st August, first tactics on 24th
Date of TM value refreeze - 13th August (allows one set of lawyers at old price and one at new before the season starts)
Lawyers/TPs/Releases - same as normal, two per week

My personal preference:

Length of season - no home & away, half current season length. Current length starting on 24th August would see it ending on 28th December...unless we're planning to swap over mid season to FIFA 19?

Okay with the other proposals Afro referenced.

Also though wish to add in injuries/cards into games as think they only add to a game rather than detract from it.

Yes, I'm willing to go either way on season length but we have to stick with FIFA 18 for the duration imo

On injuries / cards, are we saying those would be in addition to the weekly injuries we draw?

Suspensions probably makes sense, something like 2/3 yellow cards for a player to mean a ban? This would mean that someone would need to keep track, given how well that went for the player ratings earlier in the season is it likely to work?

Injuries and cards wise are really minimal when I've tested them, for me it's more that it'll take into consideration players that are injury prone or those that can be a bit reckless more, so those with high aggression will be more at risk.

Would also depend on what kind of injury - ie there's the little sticky plaster injury or the game ender

I'm assuming only the game ender would have an impact on the next game

I'm happy to allow injuries and cards, three yellows or a red = 1 game suspension for the following week, and if someone is injured during the game they get subbed off by the CPU but are fine the following week.

I think we shouldn't change to Fifa 19 mid season so I'm inclined to go with Hero's idea with that. I say that because there will be some players in Fifa 18 that won't be in Fifa 19.

Yep only game enders result in next game injury so that's really few and far between unless I ramp up the injury levels.
I'll trial a few tonight with the injury rating to see what's a good level.

I'd not allow game enders to roll over into the following week personally if we already have injuries.

A 9 week season would take us the 26th October which I reckon is a good time to swap over to FIFA19. It'd allow me a good few weeks to get my head round any changes and if we do a draft the time to amend squads for it.

Marky wrote:I'd not allow game enders to roll over into the following week personally if we already have injuries.

My preference is a higher injury rating and remove the injury draw each week. Then the injuries come from the team done therefore encourages squad building and it's another thing that removes any concern of rigging etc (not that I am suggesting this occurs).

Marky wrote:I'd not allow game enders to roll over into the following week personally if we already have injuries.

I'd suggest limiting it to 3 total injuries, so if you have a game ender then you only get drawn 2 in the normal way

Alternatively just be savage with it and its tough titties

Hero wrote:

Marky wrote:I'd not allow game enders to roll over into the following week personally if we already have injuries.

My preference is a higher injury rating and remove the injury draw each week. Then the injuries come from the team done therefore encourages squad building and it's another thing that removes any concern of rigging etc (not that I am suggesting this occurs).

Or that.

So you could lose none of your starting 11 or 3 / 4 in a week

I'd be the one screwed by it with Bale getting injuries every week and Nainggolan rugby tackling everyone.

Shall we do a poll for the length of the season? It's probably the biggest point of contention

Hero wrote:I'd be the one screwed by it with Bale getting injuries every week and Nainggolan rugby tackling everyone.

Reus would be fooked

Can I also suggest using Google sheets as team lists and to keep track of transfers. I sent a format Afro and Hero. It just makes things neater

I'm happy with a 9 game season. Seems to make sense with the FIFA 19 change over really.

For a short season I wouldn't bother changing injuries and cards. Seems pointless changing it and needing to track it which just creates extra work. Like Bam said, doing player ratings didn't work as no one could put the time in, so why create more work.

TwisT wrote:Can I also suggest using Google sheets as team lists and to keep track of transfers. I said a format Afro and Hero. It just makes things neater

Same point here, who is going to update it?

BamBam wrote:

TwisT wrote:Can I also suggest using Google sheets as team lists and to keep track of transfers. I said a format Afro and Hero. It just makes things neater

Same point here, who is going to update it?

You are, just like you update your page currently. Transfers and budget can be easily tracked then....no going through loads of pages to find if a player is available.

Plus a runner can allocate bonuses.

Given how good people were at updating player ratings, I have 0 confidence that anything on Google sheets will be updated by more than 50% of the league

Afro wrote:I'm happy with a 9 game season. Seems to make sense with the FIFA 19 change over really.

For a short season I wouldn't bother changing injuries and cards. Seems pointless changing it and needing to track it which just creates extra work. Like Bam said, doing player ratings didn't work as no one could put the time in, so why create more work.

Might be a good time to trial injuries and cards rather than sticking them in for a full season when starting up a new game

BamBam wrote:Given how good people were at updating player ratings, I have 0 confidence that anything on Google sheets will be updated by more than 50% of the league

The only way to make sure of it is to say that no transfer has been completed until its updated on the google doc - if people start losing out on players because they haven't confirmed it on there, then it might actually get done

All that does is annoy anyone who loses out, and there will be many tantrums

I think it's an easier and evolved way to how we do it now. Let's face it not everyone keeps their transfer logs up to date like they are supposed to!

Yep, I don't do it on here, but I track my budget on an excel spreadsheet (I am that sad)

Doing it twice is just a faf, on top of making my transfers and confirming them on the two pages here

What if we had lawyers, foreign transfers page and releases page on here as normal, but all confirmations are made on the Google Doc?

I can definitely see the benefits behind both the injuries/cards, and tracking transfers on Google Docs.

But from past experience I just see it creating more work for a few and ultimately not achieving what it is designed to do.

Yep.. unless the usual suspect lazy sods play ball its not going to work

I wouldn’t call it lazy. It’s a game and some are happier with simple and something that doesn’t take up much of their time, whilst others prefer something more sophisticated and will therefore put the time in for it.

BamBam wrote:Yep, I don't do it on here, but I track my budget on an excel spreadsheet (I am that sad)

Doing it twice is just a faf, on top of making my transfers and confirming them on the two pages here

What if we had lawyers, foreign transfers page and releases page on here as normal, but all confirmations are made on the Google Doc?

You see with a Google Docs confirmation page you wouldn't have to do it twice. You just have a column which says domestic or foreign.

Done properly, you wouldn't even need to keep track of transfers on your page. Just saves work all round by keeping everything in one place.

I don't share your confidence but ok