SF1 - Match Thread - ENGLAND v NEW ZEALAND - 26/10/19 - K/O 09:00 BST (PART 2)

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First topic message reminder :

Because everyone else is getting a bit excited and the first thread is going to spill over during the match.

ENGLAND

Team:Daly; Watson, Tuilagi, Farrell (capt), May; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, George, Sinckler, Itoje, Lawes, Curry, Underhill, B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Marler, Cole, Kruis, Wilson, Heinz, Slade, Joseph.

NEW ZEALAND

Team: Beauden Barrett; Sevu Reece, Jack Goodhue, Anton Lienert-Brown, George Bridge; Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Smith; Joe Moody, Codie Taylor, Nepo Laulala, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, Kieran Read (capt).

Replacements: Dane Coles, Ofa Tuungafasi, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuipulotu, Sam Cane, TJ Perenara, Sonny Bill Williams, Jordie Barrett.



Venue: Yokohama
Referee: Nigel Owens
AR1: Romain Poite
AR2: Pascal Gauzere
TMO: Marius Joncker

[nathan]

Ford kicking which means Farrell is hurting

[stub]

Nice

[Collapse2005]

England all over NZ so far.

[RiscaGame]

England could (probably should) be 20 up at halftime.

[TightHEAD]

Farrell looks fone

[majesticimperialman]

10 nil at half time to England.

[Taylorman]

Nobody crying TM! You are funny )

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

[stub]

Ten nil at half time. Half way there!

[king_carlos]

Got to question whether it's time to sub Farrell.

I guess they are just getting him to half time so that the physios can work with him for a decent length of time.

[BamBam]

Make some allowances for the Kiwis, they've been on the cans all day I expect, completely understandable

[nathan]

I don’t get the England should be up by more, New Zealand’s scramble defence has been good

[BigGee]

10-0 England

Should be more but England will take that

[MightyQuin]

Should be about 20 up at least but any lead is good. Have they been in our 22 yet?

[Heaf]

England aren't 'staying in it' - they've been the better team so far ...

[eirebilly]

That was one of the best halves of rugby I have ever seen. England may feel they left 1-2 scores out there but New Zealand have been resilient. The period between 50 - 70 mins will be crucial if England are going to win this.

[Collapse2005]

Youngs looks out of place in this England side

[Geordie]

Nobody crying TM! You are funny )

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

Erm...its stating facts...

[nathan]

Where’s susie

[Scottrf]

That was absolutely brilliant. Forwards bossing it. Would feel more comfortable with a few more points on the board for all that play. Farrell kick and offload both bad decisions in good positions.

[Duty281]

Couple of key turnovers won by Curry and Underhill. England winning all the key battles for now. The five minutes before half time and the ten minutes after it were when England lost the 2018 international; glad England didn’t lose concentration this time!

NZ very underwhelming, but expect a backlash as ever. England’s bench has to fire, especially with Farrell hurt.

Itoje and Curry and Lawes have been outstanding. As outstanding as Youngs has been awful.

[Collapse2005]

England aren't 'staying in it' - they've been the better team so far ...

by some distance. Will Owens bail NZ out?

[Taylorman]

10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

[Old Man]

Good half for England.

[Taylorman]

Nobody crying TM! You are funny )

Oh, ABs are all offside, ABs always get those calls, blah blah. Owens is favouring the ABs.

That’s crying.

Erm...its stating facts...

Oh, ok then, facts. ABs always get those calls. Ok then.

[Guest]

England having the game of their life and dominating

[Pal Joey]

Epic first half... England so powerful. The ABs will need find a way to break the line. They seem to be to be getting too cosy with the sidelines... risky play. Maybe straighten up more and find the cross runners? Fantastic match so far... clash of the superpowers.

[kingelderfield]

Game of 2 halves

[LondonTiger]

10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

[TightHEAD]

Still think it was a try personally, they step in on curry.

[tigertattie]

If the highlight for NZ is a blindside making a tackle then it’s proper barrel scraping stuff.

[kingelderfield]

Farrell and May to lesser extent not fit.
Very good bench to use yet.
Really expect nz to score next.
Half time came good for us.

[Geordie]

10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

Its just standard ungracious kiwi behaviour....

[majesticimperialman]

This game so far remind's me of 2012 at Twickenham. England went in 12  nil at half time i think it was. New Zealand came back in the second half in about 2 minutes to with in a point, then England scored 3 try 's in 10 minute spell.

Could this be a similar game?

The pace of the England team getting in the face's of New Zealand. New Zealand at the moment do not have any answers to counter act it.

More of the same please England.

[stub]

40 mins to go. Rinse and repeat please!

[eirebilly]

This is a great 10 point lead for England. The benches are very similar in strengths so I think it will come down to how they are deployed.

[Taylorman]

England having the game of their life and dominating

Yep England are applying more pressure, they’ve not applied enough scoreboard pressure. Next ten minutes is big. ABs must up the tempo and clear the ruckus out more cleanly. They’re getting caught with the ball allowing the English loosies in.

Farrell and Youngs having mares and have costed England points, Farrell the dropped pass on attack and the missed droppie.

Sam, Read, Savea, and Brodie need to step up as carriers.

This is the sort of match where England score first and we’re chasing.

Ten points is not a lot, but the ABs need the ball, more accuracy and need to up the tempo.

[Geordie]

We have to be even more focused now.

They're going to come at us hard now.

[Dirtydave]

Fair play to Eddie jones, he's totally out thought Hanson today thus far!

England almost have the kiwi playbook to hand, 3 times Smith has dropped to first receiver, and 3 times Manu has rushed up, net result 1 turnover, 1 penalty and 1 intercept.

Also england are putting Goodhue and Leinart brown on the deck, over and over. That's killing the inexperienced wingers who look shaky in organised defence.

Bravo england

[Pal Joey]

Worthy of a final - such is the intensity. A pity that one of these teams will be gone in 40 mins.

[No 7&1/2]

Cant help but feel that the rain will help NZ.

[Duty281]

Ford missed the drop goal...

England need to sort out their clearing kicks and brace for the backlash. Next try wins, probably.

[Duty281]

Worthy of a final - such is the intensity. A pity that one of these teams will be gone in 40 mins.

A real shame this isn’t the final!

[Collapse2005]

Still think it was a try personally, they step in on curry.

SH TMO was never going to give it

[Taylorman]

10 nil after virtual complete dominance. May getting run down by a what...Lock?

ABs need to sort out getting turned over, might be time for a Cane to come on. LT probably right there though no way Cane would have got near May.

Sadly May has an injury and not at full speed. How about the interception Manu forced you said that NZ would never conced? How about the lineout steals? How about the breakdown turnovers?

NZ will probably come out fast, but to give zero credit to England is churlish in the extreme.

The intercept I said we almost never conceded? , did you read that properly? I said we’d probably throw one.

Lineout steals are one each.

Breakdown turnovers we never discussed.

Anything else?

I have just given England credit but I didn’t expect crying so early.

[BamBam]

Cane on then

[eirebilly]

Hansen blinks first with a change at half time.

[stub]

Come on Daly!

[Dirtydave]

Interestingly, a lot of NZ's 'nuance' play isn't being allowed by england or Nigel owens

[Geordie]

Retalick had Curry round the neck there.

[BigGee]

Eases him off the ball - the commentators say.

Shoved out of the way - see the rest of us!

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