The v2 Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Wed 21 Oct 2020, 8:12 pm

First winter tour for England confirmed today: three T20s and three ODIs in South Africa from the 27th November-9th December.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/54537709

A possible limited-overs tour of Pakistan, which would be England's first trip to that country since 2005, as well as visits to Sri Lanka and India may also go ahead in early 2021.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 28 Oct 2020, 3:46 pm

Seems likely they'll be touring India, but in the UAE, from what I have seen
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Tue 03 Nov 2020, 12:43 pm

South African domestic season just got started so they will have no excuses for rustiness when England turn up. Should be a competitive series and of some value in terms of preparation for a T20 world cup at some point in the future. Do feel its a bit of a case of shoehorning more in just to make sure they do get some international cricket (at good times for domestic TV) inked in the calendar and keeping the bank manager happy though. If the full Asian tours do go ahead (and I cant see why they wont) thats a lot to fit in, and remembering back to last spring the players didn't seem over enthusiastic about the aborted  Sri Lanka tour and pretty glad to get the excuse to avoid it. The offer from Pakistan means they will have cricket if they want it, but how that could be fitted around India and Sri Lanka I'm not sure.

Lots of talk about managing the bubble and the impact of it on players well being through that winter period, and the need for rotation. No comment on it coming from those who chose to got to the IPL for a big pay day. It should mean plenty of continued opportunities for players, especially in white ball after 4 years of the 50 over squad being pretty much a closed shop.

Bantons stock is continuing to drop a bit, after a couple of poor scores he got benched early in the IPL. Stokes back playing has had mixed results as an opening bat, couple of big scores but not made a massive contribution with the ball. Main thing is he's back playing. Archers been the pick of the England players out there taking a lot of wickets incredibly cheaply bowling at the top order.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Soul Requiem on Tue 03 Nov 2020, 12:47 pm

Banton just isn't very good, beyond his much vaulted strike rate he offers little return in the runs column.

Soul Requiem

Posts : 3047
Join date : 2019-07-16

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Tue 03 Nov 2020, 8:40 pm

Squads announced for SA.

Reece Topley in and Banton relegated to a reserve.

Archer, Curran and Stokes all rested for the ODIs, really shows how worried they are about the winter schedule and impact of bubbling. Surprisingly Buttler doesnt get that rest despite being a 3 format starter and playing in the IPL and England having two other keepers who could start games. Can only assume he'll get a break later on.

Still no other spin options in the squads, England are still tied to Moeen. Lets hope he can finally come good again. Livingstones in the ODI squad but not being in the T20 one suggests he's a bit peripheral in thinking and pairing him with Rashid wouldn't give the same variation Mo does.  

Stone actually fit at this point.

England men’s IT20 squad

Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jofra Archer (Sussex), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Sam Curran (Surrey), Tom Curran (Surrey), Chris Jordan (Sussex), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Ben Stokes (Durham), Reece Topley (Surrey), Mark Wood (Durham).

England men’s ODI squad

Eoin Morgan (Middlesex) (captain), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Jos Buttler (Lancashire), Tom Curran (Surrey), Lewis Gregory (Somerset), Liam Livingstone (Lancashire), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Joe Root (Yorkshire), Jason Roy (Surrey), Olly Stone (Warwickshire), Reece Topley (Surrey), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).

Reserves across both formats:

Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire), Tom Banton (Somerset), Tom Helm (Middlesex)


Last edited by Gooseberry on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 8:42 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : mistake)

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by alfie on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 8:22 am

Root is in the ODI squad.

alfie

Posts : 13009
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Melbourne.

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 8:41 am

alfie wrote:Root is in the ODI squad.

Ooops so he is ! Corrected

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by guildfordbat on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 8:48 am

As well as Root being in the ODI squad despite one report Wink , it particularly caught my eye that Reece Topley is in both squads. I was pretty doubtful when Surrey signed the injury plagued seamer but tbf he bowled increasingly well in this season's Blast tournament, always I think in the opening and death overs.

He only played t20s for Surrey, never a Bob Willis match. Whether he would be chosen for an ODI or even be able to stand up to it on this forthcoming South African tour remains to be seen but I feel he could do a job in the IT20s.

guildfordbat

Posts : 14049
Join date : 2011-04-07

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 10:11 am

Definitely feels like they have switched the way they introduce players - before the last ODI world cup, players/reserves would get a go in T20s and they were concentrating on the ODI squad being the main players...definitely switched that to the T20 squad where the main guys are, with reserves getting a go in ODIs (see Livingstone in these squads as an example).

Won't it be good to have some cricket again
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Wed 04 Nov 2020, 11:56 am

Yeah they talked openly about that Olly as the focus from last winter has been on building to two T20 world cups (albeit one delayed!)

With no domestic 50 over cricket being played too the performances in the Blast seem to have taken on increasing importance to get those initial opportunities too.

Hard for me to see where Topley really fits into the plans mind. Curran is first choice if they feel the need to have a left armer in and helps cover the batting depth, ideally they will want two genuine quicks (Wood, Archer ) then Jordan and Tom Curran have been pretty successful as specialist finishers in recent times. With Stokes back only 3 of those can really get in the side (unless they go one spinner) so it does feel very much like a "making up the numbers " pick for the t20s.

As you say much more likely to get a game in the 50 overs side with a couple of guys rested.

I guess another way to look at his selection is who has he kept out? Stone couldve been included as a spare express option. Mahmoods missed out altogether, but hasnt done that much with the opportunities he had in the summer. Helm and Ball dont offer anything special either. Willey flirteed with the edges of another chance of being Englands token left armer last summer but it does seem that Curran put paid to his resurrection. Mills is the only other name I can think of who maybe did enough to get another look, but does seem England have issues with his professionalism.

So as a big performer in the Blast its not a controversial pick to me, but I still don't see him easily forcing a way into a first choice side.

Far more concerned about Englands spin options. Parkinson perhaps a touch hard done by, and if Rashids shoulder plays up I guess Malan will have to err shoulder some bowling responsibility.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by king_carlos on Thu 12 Nov 2020, 10:13 pm

Bruce French retires from his role as England's wicketkeeping coach after 11 years in the role.

He was always very well regarded as a coach. In Prior, Bairstow and Buttler he has taken several talented batsman with rudimentary glovework and overseen big improvements. Prior in particular turned into a vital cog in the England side that rose to top of the Test rankings. Buttler of course is integral to the white ball side that won the CWC. He also coached Sarah Taylor who is one of the best keepers up to the stumps I've seen.

James Foster takes over for the South Africa tour.

I wouldn't be surprised if former favourite of several 606ers Michael Bates gets the role long term. He's worked as a wicketkeeping coach around county cricket and with England since finishing playing. He is very well considered as a young coach.

king_carlos

Posts : 5975
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Ankh-Morpork

guildfordbat likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Tue 17 Nov 2020, 6:59 pm

Sanity has returned to the scheduling and England tour to Pakistan pushed back to next winter.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by king_carlos on Wed 18 Nov 2020, 9:08 am

Gooseberry wrote:Sanity has returned to the scheduling and England tour to Pakistan pushed back to next winter.
I really liked that the ECB were trying to show good faith to the PCB for their efforts in getting the games on over the summer but as you say it makes a lot more sense to push that potential tour back with everything going on.

king_carlos

Posts : 5975
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Ankh-Morpork

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 18 Nov 2020, 10:23 am

Looks like a short T20 tour pre-T20 world cup in 2021, with a full tour in 2022
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Wed 18 Nov 2020, 10:25 am

king_carlos wrote:
Gooseberry wrote:Sanity has returned to the scheduling and England tour to Pakistan pushed back to next winter.
I really liked that the ECB were trying to show good faith to the PCB for their efforts in getting the games on over the summer but as you say it makes a lot more sense to push that potential tour back with everything going on.

Does seem like a real token gesture though, announced as just 2 T20s!

I suspect a fair bit has been driven by the players. Cant imagine they were too comfortable with going there at all, and certainly the impact on them this season with the bubbling and amount of travel they are already committed to having massive impacts of their personal lives and general well being.

Whilst its a worthy notion to "return the favour" and a bit of a sticking point politically that England still refused to go to Pakistan when others have started to travel there the players opinions and impact on them really do need to be taken account of.

So yeah all in a sensible balance. Short low risk visit, see how it goes and assess how viable a proper multi format tour is in the future.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Wed 18 Nov 2020, 11:16 am

Probably should start the dedicated summer thread but the provisional home schedule has been announced too, 5 test series against India (will their batsmen turn up this time?) and visits from Sri Lanka and Pakistan.

I'm assuming Sri Lanka will be two tests and some white ball and Pakistan just white ball tri series with India to get the big tv cash and crowds.

Has the potential to be a big summer of competitive cricket, and just what the ECB and visitors need to start paying off their overfdrafts. Just need to get the global situation in a state where its viable and safe.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by dummy_half on Fri 20 Nov 2020, 11:34 am

While it may feel a bit like tokenism, I can kind of see the advantage to England doing a very short tour to Pakistan next year prior to a more extensive tour the year after - it will allow almost a trial run of the security work that will need to be done in the build up, but in a more restricted situation. I assume the two T20s will be hosted by the same venue, so any biosecure (if still needed) and security bubbles will only need to cover one hotel and the ground plus travel routes.

dummy_half

Posts : 5150
Join date : 2011-03-11
Age : 48
Location : East Hertfordshire

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 21 Nov 2020, 10:20 am

For anyone bored on a Saturday morning, England’s inter squad friendly being live-streamed on the ECB website - you just need to sign up for a free account to watch. Root going along nicely so far
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Sat 21 Nov 2020, 7:13 pm

Just seen the scorecard ...in a bizarre twist of fate England top order bats seem to be struggling, with the exception of Root.

Statement from Tom Curran taking 4 wickets @ 4 an over and hitting 31 with the bat.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by JDizzle on Sat 21 Nov 2020, 7:16 pm

Would be interested to see Archer, Wood, Woakes and then Stone in the Plunkett middle overs role in the ODIs. Pure pace.

JDizzle

Posts : 5356
Join date : 2011-03-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Mon 23 Nov 2020, 6:45 pm

T20 warm up today - all a bit contrived score wise at the end, but ultimate Olly Stone and Tom Curran with bursts of wickets with the ball, and Sam Curran with 45 off 19 (not out) with the bat.

Sam Curran is really making a dart for that late order hitter who can bowl spot at 7, after his cracking IPL too
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by king_carlos on Mon 23 Nov 2020, 7:31 pm

The 2021 T20 World Cup being in India will presumably help Surran with his performances in the IPL.

His bowling can be very effective in the right conditions, judging by his IPL performances India suits him.

king_carlos

Posts : 5975
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Ankh-Morpork

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Mon 23 Nov 2020, 8:38 pm

Yeah Sams really making an impact as a bat in white ball stuff. Potential sub for Stokes even if he cant demand a place in first XI, but Morgans tended to want a left armer if possible.

Stone the best bowling figures on the day, more runs for Root.

Options just keep getting better and better for England really!

Moeen though .... no wickets for 55 off 6 overs across the two games. At some point they need to think again about second spinner, seems unthinkable theyd go into a cup in India with only one in the squad whos worth a place.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 24 Nov 2020, 8:55 am

Gooseberry wrote:Yeah Sams really making an impact as a bat in white ball stuff. Potential sub for Stokes even if he cant demand a place in first XI, but Morgans tended to want a left armer if possible.

Stone the best bowling figures on the day, more runs for Root.

Options just keep getting better and better for England really!

Moeen though .... no wickets for 55 off 6 overs across the two games. At some point they need to think again about second spinner, seems unthinkable theyd go into a cup in India with only one in the squad whos worth a place.

Agree on the last line Goose - that is really the only spot in the squad where England don't have a solid in form option. Have to admit I am surprised that Parkinson isn't out there with them this time...we are totally reliant on Rashid maintaining fitness at the moment
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Wed 25 Nov 2020, 7:59 pm

Talk of Morgan batting at 5 or 6 as his death overs SR over the past couple of years has been absurd

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by king_carlos on Wed 25 Nov 2020, 9:38 pm

Gooseberry wrote:Talk of Morgan batting at 5 or 6 as his death overs SR over the past couple of years has been absurd
Something I've suggested a few times as a counterpoint to Buttler opening. Morgan's ability to go from ball one lately has been insane. It's quite some side they've got in white ball cricket.

1.Buttler (wk) (vc)
2.Roy
3.Bairstow
4.Malan
5.Stokes
6.Morgan (c)
7.Surran/Moeen
8.Woakes
9.Turran
10.Rashid
11.Archer/Wood

Banton pressuring the top 3. Root is a good backup to Malan. Billings as a third choice keeper and lower order hitter. I still think Livingstone is also an interesting option at 7 with his batting and leggies. The batting power and depth is absurd.

The second spinner berth is the glaring issue. I'm surprised Parkinson hasn't had a go.

Come the World Cup in India I think they will want Archer and Wood in the side together but could see them being rotated more until then.

king_carlos

Posts : 5975
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Ankh-Morpork

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by JDizzle on Wed 25 Nov 2020, 9:50 pm

I think Livingstone can bowl offies too? He certainly always used to. Which England might find more interesting as that naturally compliments Rashid spinning it the opposite way (although with the googly he can do both, obviously).

https://www.cricviz.com/the-moeen-ali-problem

Interesting article - as they say, whether Moeen or Curran plays probably depends on whether they are thinking about the World Cup or this series. As they will need two spinners in the WC, but not in this series.

Then the other thing is what they value more... The one over the no 7 bowls an innings or the five balls he faces on average. If it is the former then it favours Scurran, if it is the latter the it favours Moeen.

Banged on about it a few times, but Parkinson is the worst fielder I have ever seen live. His arm couldn't reach the wicketkeeper on the full at New Road. And he can't really hold a bat either... Both of which will count against him. Pretty harsh not to have him out there as a precaution if Rashid's shoulder starts twitching though.

Woakes isn't actually in the T20 squad either - which makes sense I suppose. So Jordan comes in for him in Carlos's team. Although Topley will get a chance at some point as they will be keen for a left armer to have as an option.

JDizzle

Posts : 5356
Join date : 2011-03-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by king_carlos on Wed 25 Nov 2020, 10:07 pm

I hadn't noticed that Woakes wasn't in the T20 squad to be honest. Makes sense though as you say given he's important in three formats these days. Jordan hasn't let England down in the shortest form.

I got the feeling from commentators, pundits, etc that the general view of Parkinson's fielding was that it had improved a bit. Obviously not Collingwood but no longer Monty type scenario. I haven't seen him fielding live for a couple of years though when he was admittedly poor.

Looking at spinners for red ball cricket Amar Virdi is in a similar bracket. Really talented finger spinner who uses flight well and turns the ball but is pretty poor in the field by modern standards and can't hold a bat.

Fielding can improve out of sight with good application and coaching though.

king_carlos

Posts : 5975
Join date : 2011-05-31
Location : Ankh-Morpork

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Wed 25 Nov 2020, 11:05 pm

I think that top 6 is the right one Carlos, albeit I’d expect Malan at 3 to break up the right and left hand partnerships a bit. They might even make that quite fluid and play match ups a bit with them too.

And like you say, come the real thing I’d expect both Archer and Wood in the starting XI but rotating here definitely makes sense to keep them both fit as possible. The depth is a nonsense, and saw Atherton saying on sky today how it just means nobody can rest on their laurels, because if you’re someone like Roy you have Banton breathing down your neck, or Malan has Root etc etc

Looking forward to seeing them in action - even if it is a pretty short tour with no tests
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 3:35 pm

First of three T20s today. England have won six and drawn one of their last seven T20 series. South Africa haven't won a T20 series since March 2019. England have had warm-ups going into this fixture - South Africa haven't. England also have the stronger side on paper and the best T20 batting line-up in the world. Plenty to be confident about!

England have won the toss and will field first. Newlands looks gorgeous at the moment.

Roy, Buttler, Malan, Bairstow, Stokes, Morgan, S Curran, T Curran, Jordan, Archer, Rashid the XI.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by dummy_half on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 3:58 pm

Duty281 wrote:First of three T20s today. England have won six and drawn one of their last seven T20 series. South Africa haven't won a T20 series since March 2019. England have had warm-ups going into this fixture - South Africa haven't. England also have the stronger side on paper and the best T20 batting line-up in the world. Plenty to be confident about!

England have won the toss and will field first. Newlands looks gorgeous at the moment.

Roy, Buttler, Malan, Bairstow, Stokes, Morgan, S Curran, T Curran, Jordan, Archer, Rashid the XI.

All this means only one possible outcome - England batting collapse and easy SA win Shocked

Like that England line up generally - loads of fire power and enough bowling strength. Ideally would like a better second spin option than Malan, but for a match in SA that's really tinkering at the margins

dummy_half

Posts : 5150
Join date : 2011-03-11
Age : 48
Location : East Hertfordshire

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Soul Requiem on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 4:09 pm

That is a potentially brutal top six if they come off, not sure how about the depth in batting beyond that however. All can hold a bat but can't say any of them should be batting as high as seven.

Soul Requiem

Posts : 3047
Join date : 2019-07-16

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 4:36 pm

No Mo is a thing but absolutely correct on form an conditions. England taking a fair tap (well Turran) so far mind

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 5:37 pm

Good to see Sam Curran continuing where he left off in the IPL, be a real bonus if he can make that 7 spot his own with his lower order hitting and ability to open the bowling.

Anyone read if Stokes is able to bowl? I’m assuming not, didn’t do much if any in the IPL, and hasn’t here obviously.
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 5:44 pm

179/6. Good two last balls from T Curran. Some solid contributions from the South African batting order, though no one played a 'brutal' T20 innings.

Think that's a little better than par, wicket's a bit slow, but you'd back England's formidable top six to do the necessary.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

guildfordbat likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:03 pm

Roy-out-in-first-over-shocker. Like Bairstow being bowled in a test, or Denly making 27.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

guildfordbat likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:26 pm

England getting in a real mess here...RRR up to nearly 10 with 2 down already

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by JDizzle on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:26 pm

Duty281 wrote:Roy-out-in-first-over-shocker. Like Bairstow being bowled in a test, or Denly making 27.

Buttler (or whoever) should just take strike. Roy is comically bad vs spin early on! And teams seem a lot more reticent to bowl spin after the first over in the PP, which they shouldn’t be, but does seem to be a mental block for teams.

JDizzle

Posts : 5356
Join date : 2011-03-11

guildfordbat and Duty281 like this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by JDizzle on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:28 pm

Gooseberry wrote:England getting in a real mess here...RRR up to nearly 10 with 2 down already

This is the problem with Malan. He’s taken up three overs of the PP to strike at a run a ball. If he goes on to score 70 off 45 like he was been doing regularly in his career so far then it works. But that consistency of conversion seems kind of unsustainable.

JDizzle

Posts : 5356
Join date : 2011-03-11

guildfordbat likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:41 pm

dummy_half wrote:
Duty281 wrote:First of three T20s today. England have won six and drawn one of their last seven T20 series. South Africa haven't won a T20 series since March 2019. England have had warm-ups going into this fixture - South Africa haven't. England also have the stronger side on paper and the best T20 batting line-up in the world. Plenty to be confident about!

England have won the toss and will field first. Newlands looks gorgeous at the moment.

Roy, Buttler, Malan, Bairstow, Stokes, Morgan, S Curran, T Curran, Jordan, Archer, Rashid the XI.

All this means only one possible outcome - England batting collapse and easy SA win Shocked


chin

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 6:54 pm

50 partnership between Bairstow and Stokes to revive England - the Yorkshireman injecting the tempo.

Morgan still to come, and Ngidi and Rabada only have four of the nine overs left, so you'd make England narrow favourites from here.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 7:21 pm

Losing Stokes curbed the momentum.

51 needed off 4 overs. Steep ask, but Bairstow's set and Morgan's ready.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 7:27 pm

13 off one delivery (five wides, a six, two wides), as Hendricks completely loses his radar and, probably, the match with it.

Now another four for Bairstow. Quality.

28 off the over. Crumbs.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

guildfordbat likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 7:46 pm

And England get over the line.

Match-winning innings from Bairstow, stylishly finished off with a maximum. Odds-on that at least one of England's top six will savage the opposition's bowling, and so it was today.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by JDizzle on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 7:48 pm

3 needed off 5. Brilliant knock this from JB. Pitch isn’t that simple and he has absolutely smashed it. He might not like it, but think he is set at four! The way he took down Shamsi in the 9th over was the turning point. Would have been very easy to pat him about for 6 and ‘rebuild’.

Finished with a 4 and then 6. Superb!

JDizzle

Posts : 5356
Join date : 2011-03-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 7:51 pm

Duty281 wrote:And England get over the line.

Match-winning innings from Bairstow, stylishly finished off with a maximum. Odds-on that at least one of England's top six will savage the opposition's bowling, and so it was today.

Yep, that’s pretty much as poorly as England’s top 3 are going to play (combined 26-3 off 28 balls), and they’ve still got home with four balls to spare chasing 180 on a slow pitch. The top 6 is a nonsense
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Duty281 likes this post

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Gooseberry on Fri 27 Nov 2020, 8:01 pm

Looks like Sam Curran has replaced Banton as the greatest living cricketer.

Roys form since last winter still a worry. England really looked to have made a meal of that, and the theory about using Morgan as a finisher didnt pan out. But England are just stacked with class, and maybe a bit of SA getting caught out with junk players and lack of experience.

The confidence this teams batting carries to get itself out of any situation just keeps building. Not as comfortable as it shouldve been on paper but another W.

Gooseberry

Posts : 7376
Join date : 2015-02-11

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Sat 28 Nov 2020, 12:29 am

England as far out as 9/2 to win the T20 World Cup, which is hosted in India next October.

Seems fantastic odds to me.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Duty281 on Sun 29 Nov 2020, 12:24 pm

England unchanged and bowling first again.

Win today, win the series.

Duty281

Posts : 22995
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 25
Location : Not having Chance on here

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 29 Nov 2020, 1:18 pm

Really is a pleasure to watch Rashid bowl
Good Golly I'm Olly
Good Golly I'm Olly

Posts : 47713
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 25
Location : Chris Woakes's wardrobe

Back to top Go down

England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21 Empty Re: England's Winter of Cricket 2020/21

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum