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Post by Guest Fri 8 Jan - 1:33

First topic message reminder :

The season opening Australian Grand Prix & the Chinese Grand Prix have been postponed.

Bahrain Grand Prix on the 28th March to be the first race of the 2021 season.

Formula 1 to revert to 2pm race start times at European races this year.

F1 practice sessions will be shortened to one hour during Fridays across the 2021 season.

Cognizant have been announced as Aston Martin’s new title sponsor. They will be called ‘Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team’.

Alex Albon will drive in DTM this season, on selected race weekends

Lando Norris has confirmed he has contracted Covid, while staying in, Dubai.


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Post by dyrewolfe Fri 16 Jul - 21:13

Interested to read Ross Brawn thinks hydrogen fuelled cars could be the future of F1.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57842205

He and others in the sport feel the noise / sound of F1 cars is an important part of the sport. Even some of the drivers agree its part of the thrill of driving them.

While the sport is set firmly on a course to become greener - reducing the carbon footprint of its travel requirements and factories, they also want to make the cars themselves more eco-friendly (even though they account for a tiny proportion of the sport's emissions).

No-one seems keen on electric vehicles. The noise (or lack of it) of Formula E cars, battery saving modes, switching cars are too much of a departure.

So the feeling is they want to stick with combustion engines, but want to find a way to create ones that can run on hydrogen, while still developing the same kind of power and sound.
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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jul - 0:56

Interesting news from Alfa Romeo boss Fred Vasseur that they are no longer obligated to run Ferrari backed drivers. Looking increasingly like Raikkonen’s race is run.

Pierre Gasly indicates he’ll honour Red Bull contract after ‘positive talks with Dr Marko’

Verstappen looks too strong at present. Really makes it boring to watch

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Post by GSC Sat 17 Jul - 2:40

Max miles clear. It looks ominous
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 17 Jul - 5:03

Red Bull yet again so dominant as Lewis beats Max, and Perez finishes behind both Mercs and a Ferrari…wait
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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jul - 5:05

Hamilton needed Bottas giving him a tow to just get ahead of Verstappen...
Cooler temperatures at 6pm stifling Red Bull

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Post by No name Bertie Sat 17 Jul - 5:21

Qualifying positions for the "Sprint Race" don't officially count for the records regarding qualifying position for the Main Race. So George Russell's 8th position (less than 0.15 s from finishing 4th) is impressive but it is the Sprint Race that counts with respect to race qualifying (and pole position).
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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 17 Jul - 21:34

Next season's car officially unveiled. Looks stunning IMO. Lets hope it delivers on the closer racing...

You may have spotted it at Silverstone yesterday, but here's a Sky video with the reveal and some discussion (you may want to fast-forward to the 6 minute mark to skip the preamble).


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Post by dyrewolfe Sat 17 Jul - 21:37

Jeff Navarro wrote:Hamilton needed Bottas giving him a tow to just get ahead of Verstappen...
Cooler temperatures at 6pm stifling Red Bull

Amazing how something so seemingly innocuous as air / track temperatures can give one team an advantage over another. As it is Merc's advantage seems slim enough that Red Bull are still very much in this race.
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Post by Guest Sat 17 Jul - 23:37

I’m really at a loss why Hamilton’s lap from yesterday isn’t the ‘pole’. They are distorting the history of the sport by making stupid decisions to make F1 more appealing for braindead Americans.
Ross Brawn, hall of fame legend, really should be doing more to stop Liberty screwing up F1.
Have these silly ‘sprint races’ but pole is always the fastest lap set not the winner of a gimmick mini race. mad

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Jul - 2:44

Checo Perez another mistake as he spins out of the sprint race. Weekend totally ruined now.

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Post by Guest Sun 18 Jul - 2:59

Max Verstappen wins the sprint race, Hamilton second and Bottas third.
Full grid:
1. Verstappen
2. Hamilton
3. Bottas
4. LeClerc
5. Norris
6. Ricciardo
7. Alonso
8. Vettel
9. Russell
10. Ocon
11. Sainz
12. Gasly
13. Raikkonen
14. Stroll
15. Giovinazzi
16. Tsunoda
17. Latifi
18. Schumacher
19. Mazepin
20. Perez

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Post by GSC Sun 18 Jul - 3:48

I think it's an interesting start. Friday quali is an improvement imo, captures a primetime audience and adds something to a write off day. Adds a certain jeopardy to quali as seen by Perez. Could do with something like mandating everyone uses the hardest compound to remove tyre management
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Post by No name Bertie Sun 18 Jul - 5:31

Where they started in Sprint Qualifying and places gained / lost after Sprint Qualifying
1). Hamilton........ (med). -1
2). Verstappen.... (med). +1
3). Bottas.......... (soft)
4). Leclerc......... (med).
5). Perez............ (med) -15
6). Norris............ (med) +1
7). Ricciardo....... (med). +1
8). Russell.......... (med). -1  
9). Sainz............ (med). -2
10) Vettel.......... (med). +2
11) Alonso.......... (soft) +4
12) Gasly........... (med).
13) Ocon........... (soft). +3
14) Giovinazzi..... (med). -1
15) Stroll........... (med). -1
16) Tsunoda....... (med).
17) Raikkonen.... (soft).. +4
18) Latifi.......... (med).. -1
19) Schumacher. (med). +1
20) Mazepin...... (med). +1

Basically those starting on the softs made the most gains of 3 or 4 places (except Bottas) while everyone else more or less finished were they started (except Perez) with a few incidences (e.g. Sainz losing places after being forced off track).

Conclusion: hardly any changes in places occurred - other than those due to difference in tyres used and on track incidences.
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Post by GSC Sun 18 Jul - 6:48

3 places for Russell for punting Sainz
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Post by Guest Sun 18 Jul - 7:25

GSC wrote:3 places for Russell for punting Sainz
Penalties are really getting OTT this season. I saw Russell vs Sainz as nothing more than 50-50.

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Post by GSC Sun 18 Jul - 7:35

I think it was probably fair. Russell locked up but he pushed Sainz off as a result
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 0:45

Checo pit lane start. Back to the skinny rear wing and new engine components. Depending on whether it’s a 2 or 3 stop race, he could still make top 5.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:06

Hamilton takes out Verstappen. Pretty embarrassing

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 19 Jul - 1:15

Jeff Navarro wrote:Hamilton takes out Verstappen. Pretty embarrassing

Should be a big penalty for Hamilton - especially based on what we’ve seen the last couple of races.
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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 1:20

Yeah I think Lewis has to take a penalty there. He's not close to far enough alongside, he gets nowhere near the apex of the corner
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:21

It has to be a stop go or a drive through. Verstappen lucky to avoid severe injury.

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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 1:28

Pure desperation really. Saw his last opportunity to catch Max vanish at that corner yesterday and felt he had to do something in the championship this weekend.

But you can't just throw down the inside of one of the fastest corners on the calendar. Never got close to taking the apex, it was a all or nothing lunge in the end.

Still, golden opportunity for Bottas now, imagine Lewis will be carrying some damage
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 19 Jul - 1:38

Thankfully Max seems to be ok - could’ve been a bad injury crashing at that speed
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:39

Helmut Marko absolutely raging on Sky sports Germany. Never seen him like that before.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:40

Verstappen 51G accident. Genuinely god’s grace saved him.

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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 1:43

It is interesting seeing what pressure does to you. Everyone laid into Vettel when he did stupid things, but when you're chasing a world championship in an inferior car you can't pass up opportunities. Same for Max really, not sure he wouldn't be pinning Lewis to the wall if he was behind
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:48

10 sec time penalty. Weak by the fia

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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 1:49

Max could easily have avoided contact but chose not to. He's made a career from similar moves so can't really complain.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:50

Soul Requiem wrote:Max could easily have avoided contact but chose not to. He's made a career from similar moves so can't really complain.
Yes the car ahead will slow down to let other cars past...


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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 1:50

Come on man, let's be real, he was never making that corner
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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 1:51

Anyway also a golden opportunity for Lando and Charles here
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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 1:52

Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:Max could easily have avoided contact but chose not to. He's made a career from similar moves so can't really complain.
Yes the car ahead will slow down to let other cars past...

If Max had practiced what his team is now preaching I may agree but alas he hasn't.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 1:53

Hamilton ensured by his weak antics Verstappen will bury him come Abu Dhabi

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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 2:18

Slow stop for Norris and Bottas up to effective second place.
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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 2:20

This is LeClercs to lose though, free choice of pitstop and the Mercs have been bottled up in this race
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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 2:32

"Valteri, this is James...."
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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 3:00

Many other circumstances this would be a glorious drive through the field. Today it leaves a bit of a sour taste to be honest
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 3:01

Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 3:03

Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.

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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 3:06

Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 3:08

Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

Classy words, it's as if motorsport doesn't have a long history of deaths. Seven time world champion is a fraud.

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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 3:09

Disappointing in the end from McLaren, never really had the pace to match Ferrari and gave away a chance at a podium in the pits.

Positives for Ferrari to have Sunday pace, even with LeClerc nursing an engine issue
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 3:13

Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

Classy words, it's as if motorsport doesn't have a long history of deaths. Seven time world champion is a fraud.
Just the car. Hamilton can’t race wheel to wheel as was shown between 2009-2013.

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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 3:18

Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

Classy words, it's as if motorsport doesn't have a long history of deaths. Seven time world champion is a fraud.
Just the car. Hamilton can’t race wheel to wheel as was shown between 2009-2013.

That'll be why he finished the race and Max decided to let his machismo takeover instead.

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Post by GSC Mon 19 Jul - 3:22

The punishment can't always fit the crime, particularly when you're calling for more consistency from the stewards.

But it doesn't sit entirely right that you can punt your rival out the race on lap 1, be judged responsible and then take 25 points out of his championship lead. I'm sure it wasn't meditated but still...
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 3:25

Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

Classy words, it's as if motorsport doesn't have a long history of deaths. Seven time world champion is a fraud.
Just the car. Hamilton can’t race wheel to wheel as was shown between 2009-2013.

That'll be why he finished the race and Max decided to let his machismo takeover instead.
Hamilton finished because Wolff dropped his pants for the FIA.
There’s no respect for a coward like Hamilton.

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Post by No name Bertie Mon 19 Jul - 3:26

Verstappen is still leading the drivers championship so it is going to be a question of him and red bull putting this behind them and bouncing back. There are still 13 more races scheduled for this year. Hamilton could have been ahead if he hadn't have made that mistake in Azerbaijan - getting past Perez on the restart but knocking the switch that cancelled his breaking.
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Post by No name Bertie Mon 19 Jul - 3:30

What are people's thoughts on the sprint race qualifying? Personally I thought it was a distraction.
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Post by Guest Mon 19 Jul - 3:37

No name Bertie wrote:What are people's thoughts on the sprint race qualifying?  Personally I thought it was a distraction.
Waste of time. It was done to dumb down the sport for American viewers

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Post by Soul Requiem Mon 19 Jul - 3:37

Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
Jeff Navarro wrote:Imagine celebrating a weak win. Coward way to get a hollow win

You'll get over it.
Yep when Verstappen buries this fraud.

Classy words, it's as if motorsport doesn't have a long history of deaths. Seven time world champion is a fraud.
Just the car. Hamilton can’t race wheel to wheel as was shown between 2009-2013.

That'll be why he finished the race and Max decided to let his machismo takeover instead.
Hamilton finished because Wolff dropped his pants for the FIA.
There’s no respect for a coward like Hamilton.

Nathaniel is finally letting the veil down.

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