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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 12:56 pm

Line Ups

Italy:

15-Jacopo Trulla, 14- Luca Sperandio, 13-Ignacio Brex, 12-Carlo Canna, 11-Montanna Ioane, 10-Paolo Garbisi, 9-Stephen Varney; 1-Andrea Lovotti, 2-Luca Bigi (capt), 3-Marco Riccioni, 4-Marco Lazzaroni, 5- David Sisi, 6-Sebastian Negri, 7-Johan Meyer, 8-Michele Lamaro

Replacements:

16-Gianmarco Lucchesi, 17-Cherif Traore, 18-Giosue Zilocchi, 19-Niccolo Cannone, 20- Maxime Mbanda, 21-Callum Bradley, 22-Federico Mori, 23-Mattia Bellini

Ireland:

15-Hugo Keenan, 14-Jordan Larmour, 13-Garry Ringrose, 12-Robbie Henshaw, 11-James Lowe, 10-Jonathan Sexton (capt), 9-Jamison Gibson-Park; 1-Dave Kilcoyne, 2-Ronan Kelleher, 3-Tadhg Furlong, 4-Iain Henderson, 5-James Ryan, 6-Tadhg Beirne, 7-Will Connors, 8-CJ Stander

Replacements:

16-Rob Herring, 17-Cian Healy, 18-Andrew Porter, 19-Ryan Baird, 20-Jack Conan, 21-Craig Casey, 22-Billy Burns, 23-Keith Earls
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 12:59 pm

As i said on another thread, i actually think this will be a lot closer than many may think.
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Post by profitius Sat 27 Feb 2021, 1:13 pm

All the focus has been on the attack lately. That has to improve in the coming weeks.
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Post by RiscaGame Sat 27 Feb 2021, 1:35 pm

I like the Ireland warm up top. Don’t know how I haven’t seen that yet.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 1:38 pm

BOD sums up Ireland's negativity perfectly. Sexton playing at 80 to 85 percent is still the best option... No, if he is not fit and in form another 10 should be used. Let alone the fact that he will be too old to play at the next RWC...
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:20 pm

Poor discipline from Ireland already...
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:27 pm

TMO said Hendo lost control of the ball? Not sure what he was looking at...
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Post by Heaf Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:27 pm

TMO asleep on the job by the sounds of it  ...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:29 pm

Try now at least thumbsup
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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:29 pm

eirebilly wrote:TMO said Hendo lost control of the ball? Not sure what he was looking at...

Only thing I cant think of was it was short when grounded, otherwise a mad decision.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:29 pm

Good job it's only against italy. How on earth wasnt he in control?

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:33 pm

Like watching Kilcoyne play, always brings a lit of energy

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:41 pm

The Italian line out is the best I have seen from them... well... ever.
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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:48 pm

Unforgivable at the maul

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:52 pm

That was a nice try and excellent offload from Ringrose clap
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:56 pm

This is much better from Ireland, very good attacking lines.
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Post by westisbest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 2:58 pm

Good try from Connors. He’s having a good game. Great stuff from Ireland.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:03 pm

That was actually a decent try from Italy clap
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Post by bsando Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:05 pm

Garbisi is a classy player.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:07 pm

I really enjoyed that first half of rugby. Ireland showing some intent and good attacking rugby whilst Italy have been very decent as well, especially in the line out and scrums.
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Post by westisbest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:07 pm

He looks a good prospect

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Post by bsando Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:17 pm

Best I've seen Ireland attack for a while. Connors seems to be the in form seven for Ireland at the moment, he is having a great match. Should be an easy win for Ireland if they reduce the penalties a bit and keep Italy honest up front.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:20 pm

As much as I love POM and Murray, I am struggling to see if they should be picked again. Plenty of cover there.
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Post by bsando Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:24 pm

Such a cheap way to give Ireland the initiative, Coaching team have got that exit strategy all wrong and ref is punishing Italy for it.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:26 pm

Raynal is so bad and he is not being helped out by Poite.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:37 pm

bsando wrote:Garbisi is a classy player.

Yeah quality

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:41 pm

Really enjoying Kellehers footwork, hard carries but making it a bit easier for himself with little sidesteps.

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Post by whatahitson Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:44 pm

This game is really dragging. The lack of fans isn't helping but these are the two worst teams to watch in the six nations by some margin.

Italy play some nice rugby and then go and ruin it because they lack the skills to put together their coached moves or know what to do when they make a break. Ireland can cut through Italy like a hot knife through butter when they want to but seem determined to play a slow game of drudgery the rest of the time.

Not a good game for the neutrals.

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Post by whatahitson Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:46 pm

eirebilly wrote:TMO said Hendo lost control of the ball? Not sure what he was looking at...

The officiating has been atrocious.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:46 pm

Baird and Casey, tasty subs.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:48 pm

Italy have completely lost all discipline now.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:50 pm

Connors again, what a game he is having.
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Post by westisbest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:50 pm

Good try again from Connors.

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Post by RiscaGame Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:54 pm

Well at least Raynal is being helped now.

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 3:55 pm

1 clear score missed and 2 disallowed, this is just like watching Ulster last night but with less skill Wink

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Post by westisbest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:11 pm

Good win. Like the look of Casey.
Connors had a good game.
Shame Larmour didn’t make it out for the second half.
Keenan reminds me a bit of Dempsey.
Cut out some silly mistakes, could have been around 60-10.

Good win again. I thought it would have been closer.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:13 pm

Well I am happily surprised. I was expecting this game to be much closer but a very good game for Ireland, that would have blown a few cobwebs away.

Connors was a star today, what a player he is thumbsup
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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:17 pm

Just got back in - was called in to work for a bit. How did Ireland look? Any real highlights? Saw the comments Sexton might still be only 80-85%? I think youse guys need some younger blood at 10. Is JJ still in the mix? Paddy Jackson at London Irish still beyond the pale?

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:39 pm

Unfortunately Sexton showed he is still far and away the best 10 available. We need to hope Carbery can rehabilitate fully and rack up some solid game time now that he's back.

PJ is just not going to happen.

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Post by westisbest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:46 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Just got back in - was called in to work for a bit.  How did Ireland look?  Any real highlights?  Saw the comments Sexton might still be only 80-85%?  I think youse guys need some younger blood at 10.  Is JJ still in the mix?  Paddy Jackson at London Irish still beyond the pale?  

Paddy Jackson has been playing well at London Irish, but won’t get called up.
Carbery was back last night.
Harry Byrne.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 4:58 pm

So Carberry then?
Harry Byrne is just a kid. I think I have seen him play for Leinster. Is he getting a lot of game time?

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Post by Maine man Sat 27 Feb 2021, 5:22 pm

Harry Byrne needs more game time but he looks the part. Carberry just needs to stay fit and he'll be in with a shout next year.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 27 Feb 2021, 5:44 pm

Yeah long term HB will be very good but I think it'll be after the next WC before he'll be ready.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 27 Feb 2021, 7:49 pm

I did expect Ireland to win today. but the style of their play was some thing i was not expecting. What now for Italy? they cannot go on shipping 40 odd points like this.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 27 Feb 2021, 9:14 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:I did expect Ireland to win today. but the style of their play was some thing i was not expecting. What now for Italy? they cannot go on shipping 40 odd points like this.
Of course they can they've been doing it for 21 years now.

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Post by profitius Sun 28 Feb 2021, 7:43 am

doctor_grey wrote:Just got back in - was called in to work for a bit.  How did Ireland look?  Any real highlights?  Saw the comments Sexton might still be only 80-85%?  I think youse guys need some younger blood at 10.  Is JJ still in the mix?  Paddy Jackson at London Irish still beyond the pale?  

We've been jinxed with our 10s.

Paddy Jackson was banished because some groups put pressure on the irfu sponsors who then threatened to pull out.
Carbery has been crocked since the World Cup warmup.
AJ McGinty slipped through the net and got capped by the USA.
Johnny Holland burst onto the scene with munster and looked to have it all but got an injury that first season and had to retire.
Ian McKinlay was very highly rated until he was blinded in one eye. I don't know how he managed a career at 10 with only one eye.

Harry Byrne was supposed to start against Northampton but hurt his back and missed a few crucial weeks.

Long term its probably between Harry Byrne and Jack Crowley in munster but there are others knocking about.
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Post by eirebilly Sun 28 Feb 2021, 9:09 am

I was very impressed with Ireland's approach to the game yesterday. Henshaw and Ringrose were sublime and nailed on Lions for me.

Still not convinced by Lowe's defense but my god, he is a powerful ball carrier.

As i said earlier, i am struggling to see if POM or Murray can come back into the Irish squad. Very good and younger options are available for Ireland so for me, their time is up.
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sun 28 Feb 2021, 10:30 am

Both will definitely be in the squad, Murray will still be first choice for a while yet.
PoM might not be first choice anymore but backrow is such a tough position that even 3rd choice players can rack up a lot of caps.

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Post by eirebilly Sun 28 Feb 2021, 11:21 am

I cant see why Murray would be first choice myself. He is not as good as he once was and Ireland are definitely doing far better with the quicker service they receive from the 9. Making Murray first choice going forward is a backwards step for me.

As for POM, as great a player as he is/has been, he is surplus to requirements now for me. If he were made Captain (which i believe he should have been) after Best retired then it would be a different story. As it is, there are more and more young players pushing him out which is sad for him but good for Ireland rugby.
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Post by geoff999rugby Sun 28 Feb 2021, 2:36 pm

Harry Bryne will not get a look in till he is playing regularly; same for a number of others.
Carty and Ross Bryne aren't good enough.


Its Sexton backed up by Burns and if fit Carbery - Farrell will not look beyond that

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