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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:46 pm

First topic message reminder :

That's not a high tackle. Heyes initial contact is the chest. If you're going to review it, review it properly. It's a legal tackle.

How did the assistant miss that the LI player knocks the ball out of JVP's hands and into touch before the Joseph break. It was right in front of him FFS. Lineout Tigers.

Anyway, Tigers blow what should have been a straightforward win and only get 4 instead of 5 points. LI manage to snatch 2 league points with a TBP at the death. Probably a fair result as LI were the better side in the first half but didn't really show up in the second. Hassell-Collins is looking like a really classy player, shame Parton went off.

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Post by Poorfour Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:45 am

BamBam wrote:Surely Nowell is a bigger upgrade on Cuthbert at wing, than he is at FB to Hogg!

If that’s the case, then as a Quins fan I am not complaining.

It’s possible that the Chiefs want Cuthbert’s bulk on the wing against Quins’ relatively slight back three - Lynagh, Murley and Green are not the world’s largest players. But equally, having seen Lynagh take down Radradra last week and the tackles Green shrugged off to take his tries, they may be underestimating how strong they are.

Exeter are big favourites to win this, but they will need to keep their error count lower than last week because Quins are in the sort of form to capitalise on any loose ball. Conversely, Quins need to work out what Matthew Carley’s policy is at the breakdown and avoid giving away penalties, even at the cost of giving up ground. A lineout to Exeter in your 22 gives a high probability of conceding a try.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:51 am

BamBam wrote:Surely Nowell is a bigger upgrade on Cuthbert at wing, than he is at FB to Hogg!

Would be standard logic but Baxter has got a good record with getting the most out of Chiefs players. That back three also worked well last weekend. You'd put money on Hogg coming on with the attitude of "Rob you were wrong, just watch".

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:00 pm

Too busy to notice that Esterhuizen is back. I reckon if harlequins are to win he'll be a big part in it.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:01 pm

Bt sports...is that the biggest centre pairing ever...Ben kay and Martin bayfield... Laugh

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:05 pm

No. Any centre partner to Basteraud still takes it.

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Post by Poorfour Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:10 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Too busy to notice that Esterhuizen is back. I reckon if harlequins are to win he'll be a big part in it.

If he's not ring rusty and can keep his elbows down, he has a huge part to play. Squidge's analysis of Exeter identified that their drift defence sometimes leaves gaps between the 12 & 13 channel, and I am hoping to see him exploiting that space.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:21 pm

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No 7&1/2 wrote:Too busy to notice that Esterhuizen is back. I reckon if harlequins are to win he'll be a big part in it.

If he's not ring rusty and can keep his elbows down, he has a huge part to play. Squidge's analysis of Exeter identified that their drift defence sometimes leaves gaps between the 12 & 13 channel, and I am hoping to see him exploiting that space.

Gold 10 and 12 with Andre running a hard line, get Slade scampering with Marchant on an arc and the thread a pass between to the blindside winger going straight down the middle?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:39 pm

What an early kick to the corner from Smith. Made it an easy rolling maul option for his side. Penalty try and Johnny Hill in the bin but it could have been any one of three or four Chiefs forwards. Game on.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:44 pm

More energy and action in the first 10 minutes than in the Lions match.

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Post by lostinwales Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:45 pm

Quins will win.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:54 pm

doctor_grey wrote:More energy and action in the first 10 minutes than in the Lions match.  

Both semis were good games (the Quins and Bristol one a classic) this has been end to end from kick off. Great stuff.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:54 pm

Exeter upping their game

JG, who may have a Lions tour to consider, scores a typical Exeter trty

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:00 pm

Lynagh showed his inexperience there

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:04 pm

Now Smith has shown his. On a Team warning a completely moronic offside, there's no chance that won't be a yellow card. That makes the end to the half very tough for his team.

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:20 pm

This quins to lose

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:25 pm

Great freakin game.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:26 pm

Quins really do want this, don't they

Can they go 80 mins after last week though?

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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:34 pm

Kenningham looks quite a player

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:34 pm

BigGee wrote:Quins really do want this, don't they

Can they go 80 mins after last week though?
They certainly don't lack for confidence.  That last try showed Dombrandt going to space at real speed.  Bloody hell, I hope the upcoming RWC planning has Dombrandt and Sam Simmonds fighting it out for Number 8 with Billy Cheeseburger watching from McDonalds.  Perfect time to reinvigorate the squad rather than play the same old, who are now getting old and stale. The energy in both semi-finals and this game is terrific.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:41 pm

Cuthberts done a hammy

Get Hoggy on!

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:43 pm

Why don't Exeter kick it out

Idiots, that may cost them

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:47 pm

Hogg is one of the few real game changers. Let's see, but this is great stuff.....

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:50 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
BigGee wrote:Quins really do want this, don't they

Can they go 80 mins after last week though?
They certainly don't lack for confidence.  That last try showed Dombrandt going to space at real speed.  Bloody hell, I hope the upcoming RWC planning has Dombrandt and Sam Simmonds fighting it out for Number 8 with Billy Cheeseburger watching from McDonalds.  Perfect time to reinvigorate the squad rather than play the same old, who are now getting old and stale.  The energy in both semi-finals and this game is terrific.

Callum aChick will show you tomorrow why theres 3 number 8s and Tom Willis why theres 4!

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:57 pm

Are Quins running out of steam?

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:58 pm

Why cant England go
12 Slade
13 Marchant

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:00 pm

Smith is like a viper...he just strikes so fast

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:02 pm

This game is like an end of season President Game crazy end to end stuff. Love it. So many good performances.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:18 pm

BigGee wrote:Are Quins running out of steam?
Not necessarily. But defending a lead with 15 minutes to go is pure Exeter time.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:23 pm

BigGee wrote:Are Quins running out of steam?


maybe not!

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:24 pm

Is this game actually better than last week's? I'm getting tired just watching.

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:29 pm

Surely that's it

England should get Lynagh signed up pdq!


hats off to Quins

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:29 pm

Quins class...

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:30 pm

Jeez man whst a game

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:30 pm

It's not done yet!

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:30 pm

Amazing match. Just remember, this is still Exeter. But Quins are so freakin good. .

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:32 pm

Well done Quins, what a fantastic match

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:33 pm

What a game. Congratulations Quins. Don't think either side deserved to lose that one. Fantastic stuff.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:37 pm

Unbelievale final, really pleased that Quins won, I love watching them play.
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Post by Exiledinborders Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:42 pm

A few minutes ago I thought it Looks like anti-rugby will win over rugby but no, rugby was the winner.

Wonderful!

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:43 pm

What a game...

Bring back Gustard...

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Post by GeordieFalcon Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:45 pm

But no relegation will destroy this league...apparently

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:52 pm

You've got to wonder about that final league game Chiefs Vs Sale. Took Sale's flyhalf and hooker and cost them their best chance at toppling Chiefs. Chiefs lost Skinner and Ewers who they really missed today. When they needed to up the physicality they just couldn't quote bring enough.

There's also been talk of Quins getting a new DOR for next year and at this point you've got to ask why? They should be looking to keep the set up they've got in place, some of them may be in roles they didn't expect but if it works don't mess about with it.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:53 pm

It's a shame the damn thing had to end.  
I really enjoy watching the emotions at the end of matches like this.  Pure and inspiring.

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Post by Cyril Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:59 pm

Best league in the world. Just wow, what a game (again!).

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Post by BigGee Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:00 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:You've got to wonder about that final league game Chiefs Vs Sale. Took Sale's flyhalf and hooker and cost them their best chance at toppling Chiefs. Chiefs lost Skinner and Ewers who they really missed today. When they needed to up the physicality they just couldn't quote bring enough.

There's also been talk of Quins getting a new DOR for next year and at this point you've got to ask why? They should be looking to keep the set up they've got in place, some of them may be in roles they didn't expect but if it works don't mess about with it.

Yes Exeter definitely missed those two.

I think the decision to bench Hogg also backfired. Cuthbert predictably got injured and Hogg showed what he should have been doing from the start once he came on!

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Post by Cyril Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:12 pm

Very selective reading of what might have been. Had Hogg been on from the start it’s very likely he what have made one or two of his usual brain farts and conceded a try or two.

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Post by Exiledinborders Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:12 pm

BigGee wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:You've got to wonder about that final league game Chiefs Vs Sale. Took Sale's flyhalf and hooker and cost them their best chance at toppling Chiefs. Chiefs lost Skinner and Ewers who they really missed today. When they needed to up the physicality they just couldn't quote bring enough.

There's also been talk of Quins getting a new DOR for next year and at this point you've got to ask why? They should be looking to keep the set up they've got in place, some of them may be in roles they didn't expect but if it works don't mess about with it.

Yes Exeter definitely missed those two.

I think the decision to bench Hogg also backfired. Cuthbert predictably got injured and Hogg showed what he should have been doing from the start once he came on!
I am no fan of Exeter but if they are built on anything it is on standards. Hogg can be brilliant but he can also be absent for long periods which is not what Baxter requires.

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Post by lostinwales Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:55 pm

lostinwales wrote:Quins will win.

Now going to check my lottery numbers....

I thought it would be close. I think Exeter are a wonderful team and I have(or had) links with Devon for a very long time. But Quins had that date with destiny thing going on.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:04 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:
BigGee wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:You've got to wonder about that final league game Chiefs Vs Sale. Took Sale's flyhalf and hooker and cost them their best chance at toppling Chiefs. Chiefs lost Skinner and Ewers who they really missed today. When they needed to up the physicality they just couldn't quote bring enough.

There's also been talk of Quins getting a new DOR for next year and at this point you've got to ask why? They should be looking to keep the set up they've got in place, some of them may be in roles they didn't expect but if it works don't mess about with it.

Yes Exeter definitely missed those two.

I think the decision to bench Hogg also backfired. Cuthbert predictably got injured and Hogg showed what he should have been doing from the start once he came on!
I am no fan of Exeter but if they are built on anything it is on standards. Hogg can be brilliant but he can also be absent for long periods which is not what Baxter requires.

I agree with the standards thing. Had Chiefs won then Nowell was in the chat for man of the match. Cuthbert was used to chase kicks and compete in the air which he did pretty well. What was moronic was keeping the ball on the park when Cuthbert couldn't walk. Cost Chiefs some vital points.

Hogg looked desperate to make a difference when he came on which would have been what Baxter would have wanted.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:15 pm

Wow. What a great game. It was billed as a head to head on a number of positions for England and if so you'd think that Smith, Dombrandt and Mercer have made Jones take notice.

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