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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:09 pm

Didn’t see a thread. Apologies if there is one.

Good start by Quins. Cardiff seemed to be defending very narrowly again. A lovely conversion by Marcus Smith too.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:13 pm

Strong by Lane

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:14 pm

Another nice kick.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:20 pm

Cardiff score again, but I think Adams killed Lee Lo there, by over running him.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:01 pm

It's a very open game so far, plenty of attack and a lot of errors. 

Should be a good second half but Cardiff will face a tough start with a man in the bin and Quins on top at scrum time.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:11 pm

Yeah, I haven’t been convinced by Arhip recently and I probably won’t ever be convinced by his replacement Lewis.

Enjoyable game though.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:16 pm

Lovely by Quins.

Looked like Cardiff were on a bit before that though, before a poor Amos error.

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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:23 pm

Bit of asymmetric refereeing there. Not even a warning.
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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:30 pm

This is getting bizarre. Lane was clearly in front.
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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:34 pm

I didn’t get that at all. I am watching on S4C so wasn’t really sure why they checked the finish, after Lane looked in front. Not sure what happened there.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:36 pm

Poorfour wrote:Bit of asymmetric refereeing there. Not even a warning.

It was so lazy and cynical he deserved it. All he had to do was to make some half baked effort to make it look like he was trying to wriggle out the way and he slows the ball and escapes the yellow probably not the pen. Was it 4 pens in 3 mins? Kicking the ball away just before. Wasn't painting a good image to the ref.

The Care try being disallowed was quite harsh considering they've let the Lane one stand.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:38 pm

I just watched it on BT Twitter. Did the ref try saying was Lane pushed or something? I really don’t get it.

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:41 pm

Tomos Williams delivering a 9 masterclass tonight Wink

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Post by Heaf Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:42 pm

How can they look at that and come to the conclusion he wasn't offside?

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Post by doctor_grey Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:43 pm

RiscaGame wrote:I just watched it on BT Twitter. Did the ref try saying was Lane pushed or something? I really don’t get it.
yes, he wanted the push to be checked but thought it was OK after the TMO replay. This is a score-a-thon.

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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:49 pm

2 infringements results in a warning this time. I love a bit of consistency
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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:50 pm

That was so sideways the Cardiff player took out the legs of the last man in the ruck.
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Post by doctor_grey Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:50 pm

Poorfour wrote:2 infringements results in a warning this time. I love a bit of consistency
Yes. But the last few minutes should be interesting....

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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:50 pm

And about time too, sir
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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:51 pm

Semi pro hooker on now.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:53 pm

Bar the Lane try I think the ref has been pretty good.

Been an entertaining game, as a neutral, still some time for another couple of twists in the tale.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:57 pm

Marcus Smith is a player....

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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:58 pm

Good shift Marler, going 75 mins

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:58 pm

doctor_grey wrote:Marcus Smith is a player....

He just seems to be operating at 1.5x speed whilst everyone else is on 1x speed.

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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:02 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Bar the Lane try I think the ref has been pretty good.

Been an entertaining game, as a neutral, still some time for another couple of twists in the tale.

Well, you’re right on the second point.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:03 pm

Poorfour wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:Bar the Lane try I think the ref has been pretty good.

Been an entertaining game, as a neutral, still some time for another couple of twists in the tale.

Well, you’re right on the second point.

You're hoping for not one more.

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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:05 pm

Hope is for other teams. Quins have Marcus Smith.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:05 pm

He gets it. Another late Quins comeback. Little bit of unnecessary stuff at the end. Think Adams is more annoyed by his own error and getting turned over than by whatever he's kicking off about.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:06 pm

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doctor_grey wrote:Marcus Smith is a player....

He just seems to be operating at 1.5x speed whilst everyone else is on 1x speed.
Marcus Smith must have had a little drink
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Post by Cumbrian Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:07 pm

Quins really are a glass canon aren't they? Brilliant in attack, brilliantly ridiculous in defence. Love watching them, but must give their supporters grey hairs.
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Post by Poorfour Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:18 pm

Cumbrian wrote:Quins really are a glass canon aren't they?  Brilliant in attack, brilliantly ridiculous in defence.  Love watching them, but must give their supporters grey hairs.

Not so much a glass cannon as just playing to different criteria. “Glass cannon” implies that they’re easily broken, whereas for the past year they’ve been one of the most resilient teams, coming back from huge deficits and finding ways to win with the clock dead.
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Post by RiscaGame Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:19 pm

Hell of a way to throw that away. I know there was thirty seconds to play, but I think I would’ve preferred to have taken a DG in front of the posts and then try seeing the game out.

Adams must be annoyed with himself. I see he kicked off about a bit of sledging too, but it wasn’t the best way to try launching an attack.

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Post by Cumbrian Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:35 pm

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Cumbrian wrote:Quins really are a glass canon aren't they?  Brilliant in attack, brilliantly ridiculous in defence.  Love watching them, but must give their supporters grey hairs.

Not so much a glass cannon as just playing to different criteria. “Glass cannon” implies that they’re easily broken, whereas for the past year they’ve been one of the most resilient teams, coming back from huge deficits and finding ways to win with the clock dead.

I suppose I mean that your defence just isn't up to it, you aren't going to win (I hope I'm proved wrong) this competition by leaking that many tries. You'lll eventually meet somebody who can score as freely, but also keep things tight in defence. I reckon if you can tighten things up, you'd easily be one of the best teams in Europe. I say that with affection, one of the reasons I got into union was my old science teacher was a Quins fan.
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Post by westisbest Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:08 am

Good come back from Munster.
A good winning try from Coombes. A very good player indeed.

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Post by Poorfour Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:18 am

Cumbrian wrote:
Poorfour wrote:
Cumbrian wrote:Quins really are a glass canon aren't they?  Brilliant in attack, brilliantly ridiculous in defence.  Love watching them, but must give their supporters grey hairs.

Not so much a glass cannon as just playing to different criteria. “Glass cannon” implies that they’re easily broken, whereas for the past year they’ve been one of the most resilient teams, coming back from huge deficits and finding ways to win with the clock dead.

I suppose I mean that your defence just isn't up to it, you aren't going to win (I hope I'm proved wrong) this competition by leaking that many tries. You'lll eventually meet somebody who can score as freely, but also keep things tight in defence.  I reckon if you can tighten things up, you'd easily be one of the best teams in Europe.  I say that with affection, one of the reasons I got into union was my old science teacher was a Quins fan.

Having shouted myself so hoarse at Ashton Gate last season that I couldn’t speak normally for a week, I beg to differ. Quins conceded the ninth most points last season, plus 76 more in the knockout games, and still won the title.

The Champions Cup is a different beast and they probably will need to tighten up, but when they can produce tries from anywhere they will always have a chance.

I think also this game was a bit of a one off. It was a fairly depleted Quins side, with second choice players at lock, third and fourth string players at flanker and a 13 playing 12. At the same time, I think it was a near full strength Cardiff side with 14 internationals in the starting team vs 6 for Quins. We saw in the previous game that Cardiff’s style is a good one against Quins, so it was always going to be a hard one to win. Add in the somewhat asymmetric refereeing, and I’m delighted with the result.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:43 pm

I think Quins were impacted by Kenningham's injury most of all. Lawday is pushing his way in at 6 it seems but he isn't a 7 and won't offer what Kenningham and Evans have to the Quins defence. The chop tackles and jackling were both notably absent from the Quins defence.

I thought Wallace might make a comeback to the Quins first team, is he injured as well?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:17 pm

Healey trying to argue that Umaga didn't deserve a red while agreeing that the rules should say red. Idiot .

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:22 pm

Second one in less than a month ...

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:29 pm

In fact how was he even playing as he got a 3 match ban?

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:02 pm

I'm watching a recording so behind the live play but how was the Toulouse yellow not a red given the red given to Umaga? If anything it looked worse to me and the height drop was no more than the first red ... completely inconsistent.

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:06 pm

Heaf wrote:In fact how was he even playing as he got a 3 match ban?

Answering my own question apparently he did a course to reduce the ban - so that didn't work then.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:17 pm

I did think the red and yellow were about right. Wouldn't exactly think a second red was harsh though.

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:23 pm

Excellent win for Wasps in the end though ... although arguably they should have gone for the bonus point try from the last pen instead of taking the kick for 3 ...

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:33 pm

Alfie Barbeary is some player & is only going to get better

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:29 pm

Just got in and put on the Connacht-Leicester. This is some score though 30 minutes to go....

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:36 pm

Nice try ...

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:58 pm

Tigers scrum has been well on top which makes me even more puzzled how the one just before the 2nd Connacht try was called for Connacht when their TH went straight to ground ...

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:04 pm

Wow Tigers snatch it at the end again ....

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:06 pm

Connacht crowd don't like it but it's the right call ...

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Post by Heaf Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:08 pm

Now players arguing with the ref after the final whistle as if he's going to change his mind and restart the game Erm

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