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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 04 Nov 2022, 8:53 am

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GSC wrote:Marsh put down, Aus right on the edge

Might have been the turning point of this one
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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:47 am

It feels certainly a fair bit under par, but it is a chase to win a world cup against some great strike bowlers.

Pakistan have to bowl England out youd think. If Hales and Jos bat for a while there won't be much of a total left
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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:48 am

Clinical from Eng so far.
They plan well and today could execute perfectly.
PAK did not have a Pandya /Kohli to get break them free in last 10 like India did.

On paper should be a cake walk for Eng from here
Cricket though is played in mind and not on paper
PAK will need early wickets
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:49 am

137/8.

Take a bow, England, that was an amazing 20 overs. Curran and Rashid world-class. Full credit to Jordan who has come into two knockout games, having not expected to play, and delivered. No Pakistan batsman made a big score, that's been a theme through the tournament, and whenever Pakistan seemed to be getting ahead, England would strike with timely breakthroughs.

Fielding was good, not great, few errors in there, but not too costly. Pakistan ran well between the wickets.

I'd like to say everything's OK, but there's a bit of rain on the radar...if it gets rained off tonight, do they start over again tomorrow?

Presuming they play on, Pakistan are going to need their match-winners to deliver. Shaheen should get some swing and Shadab will like the surface, but they'll need other bowlers to step up to defend this.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:54 am

As I understand it, yes Pakistan have now had their innings and won't get a second chance if 10 overs aren't possible today. We would resume tomorrow wherever England are in their chase.

Where I'm unclear is what happens if we lose time, come out and England get an adjusted DLS target. Presumably that target stands tomorrow?
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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:55 am

Perhaps Pakistan don't need to take all ten wickets - but you'd think they need to take several fairly early to get back into this. They have some very good bowlers though so I'm taking nothing for granted...

Would kill for another fifty plus opening stand now.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 9:56 am

Let's hope DLS isn't needed!

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:01 am

Well the openers won't be knocking this off today...
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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:01 am

Well you knew that would happen as soon as the commentators started rabbiting on about Pakistan looking flat and needing a lift Smile

Hales can't do it every time I guess. Now might be when we miss Malan...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:01 am

Crackerjack from Shaheen. Just what Pakistan needed from their main man.

One of the bad things about Buttler and Hales' opening stand v India is that it means none of the rest of the batting order have had a bat in at least a week.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:06 am

Not liking the look of this rain...

Might need to keep an eye on the DLS figures .

Buttler away brightly. Would like to see Afridi off after this quick start.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:09 am

Close call on the lbw review. Salt survives. He'd have been annoyed to get out to a filthy full toss !

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:09 am

Thought Salt was goneski there. His thigh preserving the integrity of the stumps.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:16 am

What was thr need for salt to play that?
Eng need to check their adrenalin rush...that carried their batting against India

The target is modest....doable in one's and twos
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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:16 am

Have to say I didn't think Salt would last long... Do think Malan would have a far better fit tonight but guess he just wasn't ready , unfortunately.

Pakistan will feel another one now will have them right back in it...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:17 am

Shame for Salt, his ball-striking was excellent on a few of those.

Two down, time for Stokes to steady the ship with his old mucker Buttler. Together again in a world final.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:20 am

KP_fan wrote:What was thr need for salt to play that?
Eng need to check their adrenalin rush...that carried their batting against India

The target is modest....doable in one's and twos

I agree. In fact I'd have had Stokes in at three rather than Salt ; but I guess England thought a quick thirty from Salt might settle the issue...after the Ireland game , they seem to have settled on a variant of Bazball...

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:20 am

England maybe a little bit guilty of playing the occasion more than the game so far, Salt looked a bit skittish to say the least.

Pakistan fired up now, two batsmen who have been here before in. Might be the game right here
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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:21 am

Naseem needs to get his radar in control
Swing away is enuf...no need to attempt swin in
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:21 am

Would have kept Shaheen on for his third over, but Naseem's getting some good movement. He can be a bit wild though...and after a good first nut, the second goes for five wides.

This is really reckless and intense from Pakistan.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:23 am

Butler copying SKY Very Happy
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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:24 am

Duty281 wrote:Would have kept Shaheen on for his third over, but Naseem's getting some good movement. He can be a bit wild though...and after a good first nut, the second goes for five wides.

This is really reckless and intense from Pakistan.

Intense , yes...but Naseem has beaten Jos outside off three times. His wicket is a prize worth taking a bit of risk for , no ?

Think they've figured if they don't get wickets (especially that of Buttler) quickly , they are gone...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:24 am

Buttler is just different class. Shot of the tournament when you consider the two previous balls. Outstanding.

England should absolutely keep attacking. It's how they win games, since 2015. Plus they bat to 11. So turn it up to 11.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:28 am

Buttler gone now. Game is truly on
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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:28 am

Game in balance
Butler edges after threatening to do so half a dozen times
The game going per the Script of Lankan game
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:28 am

alfie wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Would have kept Shaheen on for his third over, but Naseem's getting some good movement. He can be a bit wild though...and after a good first nut, the second goes for five wides.

This is really reckless and intense from Pakistan.

Intense , yes...but Naseem has beaten Jos outside off three times. His wicket is a prize worth taking a bit of risk for , no ?

Think they've figured if they don't get wickets (especially that of Buttler) quickly , they are gone...

Well he's done now. Mammoth wicket for Pakistan and it's game on.

Brook's done nothing all tournament, so if there's ever a time to do it...

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:30 am

But it's Rauf who has found Buttler's edge...45/3 and this game is wide open now. Can't say I'm surprised , ball is doing plenty.

Keep attacking ? Well keep busy , yes...but I honestly don't think you can go too silly against these bowlers , in these conditions. Need to keep their heads on straight...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:32 am

Shadab Khan time. He's had a good tournament, but NZ handled him (0/33) pretty comfortably.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:38 am

As well as Pakistan have done, they're giving England a big help with all these extras.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:42 am

Pakistan have fallen into the post-PowerPlay trap, in that they've moved fielders out of the circle just because they could, not because they needed to, and Brook and Stokes have just been able to tick over for the last couple of overs without much effort.

Liked how Brook's going about it. Using his feet well, though he's just taken a knock.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:43 am

Only need just over run a ball. Really don't need to be taking daft risks , do they ? I get the "attack , it's what we do " thing... But perhaps a bit of discretion might be in order for the next few overs , with three down already ?

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:47 am

Duty281 wrote:Pakistan have fallen into the post-PowerPlay trap, in that they've moved fielders out of the circle just because they could, not because they needed to, and Brook and Stokes have just been able to tick over for the last couple of overs without much effort.

Liked how Brook's going about it. Using his feet well, though he's just taken a knock.

Yes he's used his feet well... Just every now and then he seems to get a bit more ...adventurous ...than he probably needs to. Think he can score at a good rate with fairly normal shots .

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:50 am

Think Pakistan might just have to bring back the strike bowlers and go for broke now. They're being picked off.

We will have a result despite the forecast
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 10:51 am

Yay, no reserve day required.

Agree. Pakistan need to bring Shaheen back and bowl him in the 11th and 13th overs, if he can get a couple of wickets (or more) he gets Pakistan back in with a shout. Shadab hasn't quite got his lengths right yet. They also need to bring the field up because England are just milking the singles.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:01 am

Great fielding by Rauf on the boundary ...one run saved by a terrific dive . Pakistan really giving it everything...

Naseem really gets movement , eh ? No wonder they keep thinking he's tickled the edge. Umpires doing well clap

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:01 am

England just going nowhere since drinks at the moment. Stokes clinging on
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:02 am

Fair to say Naseem Shah has bowled a LOT better than his current figures.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:04 am

Brooks goes and England are getting themselves in a tangle.

Afridi hurt himself?
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:04 am

This wicket may not be worth it if Shaheen has hurt himself in the process to such an extent that he's unable to bowl again.

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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:05 am

Backing away from the line of ball all the time
Like a tail ender exposing all 3 stumps all the.time
I have never seen an uglier specialist batsman than Brooks
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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:08 am

Brook gone now...this game remains in the balance , after a couple of quiet overs and another batsman unable to really go on...

Pakistan still have some good bowling options for the late overs...that's if injuries haven't messed them up.

Need 51 off seven. So RRR has gone out a bit since the break. Here comes Naseem...and nearly a run out...

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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:08 am

Good three overs from Pakistan since drinks, but just the one wicket and the rate still isn't a problem for England.

Pakistan still have 12 balls left from their fifth bowler - if Shaheen can't continue that goes to 24 from a fifth/sixth option.

Eek, nearly a runout!

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:11 am

KP_fan wrote:Backing away from the line of ball all the time
Like a tail ender exposing all 3 stumps all the.time
I have never seen an uglier specialist batsman than Brooks

Might be a little bit harsh , KP_fan. But he is a bit too frenetic for my taste at the moment.

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:12 am

England could just use an over or two
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:12 am

Stokes getting stuck...but Naseem and Shadab have bowled out now. Amazing that Naseem didn't get a wicket.

England still in charge here.

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:12 am

Duty281 wrote:Good three overs from Pakistan since drinks, but just the one wicket and the rate still isn't a problem for England.

Pakistan still have 12 balls left from their fifth bowler - if Shaheen can't continue that goes to 24 from a fifth/sixth option.

Eek, nearly a runout!


RRR up to eight now though ! And DLS is about even... Think England need a good over or two or this gets very tight...

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Post by KP_fan Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:17 am

If Pak get stokes they will win
Stokes has to stay to take Rng thru
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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:18 am

41 from the last 5. Just like to bring it in a bit but batting to come
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Post by Duty281 Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:18 am

Timely boundary from Stokes. We can all just relax - England have got batting in hand, Pakistan have 12 balls to come from their fifth bowler, and Shaheen is hampered by injury.

Unless it goes all 2013 Champions Trophy, England have got this. Here's Shaheen...

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Post by alfie Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:18 am

Important boundary then...England at the moment are missing with too many of their "big" shots...

Would have liked to see more singles recently.

Afridi now ...if he can ? A very important over in more ways than one...

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Post by GSC Sun 13 Nov 2022, 11:19 am

One ball and he's off
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