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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 24 Nov 2022, 5:41 am

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And.....off you go.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 23 Jun 2023, 7:50 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Harlequins have been the best vampires of London Irish then.

Bath won’t be the least bit amused.

They filled their boots from the Worcester demise, got a little off of Wasps. There's a rumour Bath need to wait until next season before they've got since to add Arundell.

Quins did alright from Wasps and then have really gone for it with the LI unfortunates.

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Post by Welshmushroom Fri 23 Jun 2023, 8:30 am

Collins has left Ospreys. No destination given as of yet.

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Post by propdavid_london Fri 23 Jun 2023, 11:48 am

formerly known as Sam wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Harlequins have been the best vampires of London Irish then.

Bath won’t be the least bit amused.

They filled their boots from the Worcester demise, got a little off of Wasps. There's a rumour Bath need to wait until next season before they've got since to add Arundell.

Quins did alright from Wasps and then have really gone for it with the LI unfortunates.
Hopefully is also minimal disruption to the players circumstances, considering proximity of LI's training facilities compared to Quins at Guildford.

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Post by Maine man Sat 24 Jun 2023, 10:09 am

Didn't realise Alex Nankivell was heading to Munster. Just read that.

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Post by BigGee Sat 24 Jun 2023, 10:47 am

Rumours on Twitter that Logan Trotter the LI winger is heading back to Glasgow on a FT contract, he was in their academy before coming south. He seemed to be progressing nicely before injury prematurely ended his season.

It would not surprise me if Kyle Rowe, their other Scottish winger goes to Edinburgh now.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 25 Jun 2023, 3:04 pm

Rumours of an Ospreys and Blues merger with suggestions that Y11 (Osprey's majority owner) are looking to get out.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 25 Jun 2023, 6:06 pm

king_carlos wrote:Rumours of an Ospreys and Blues merger with suggestions that Y11 (Osprey's majority owner) are looking to get out.

It seems that this merger is not a thing already.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 25 Jun 2023, 8:34 pm

The Ospreys-Scarlets merger was more likely than this one… The only half truth is Y11 wanting out.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 25 Jun 2023, 9:14 pm

Tom Collins confirmed to Ealing and Will Goodrick-Clark rumoured to be following him there.

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 25 Jun 2023, 10:23 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Tom Collins confirmed to Ealing and Will Goodrick-Clark rumoured to be following him there.
Well. good for the players to have landed somewhere.  This just makes Ealing stronger which may well mean we will have more drama about promotion and the minimum number of patrons it can hold.  I wonder if Brentford, the former home of London Irish might be available....

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 25 Jun 2023, 10:39 pm

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formerly known as Sam wrote:Tom Collins confirmed to Ealing and Will Goodrick-Clark rumoured to be following him there.
Well. good for the players to have landed somewhere.  This just makes Ealing stronger which may well mean we will have more drama about promotion and the minimum number of patrons it can hold.  I wonder if Brentford, the former home of London Irish might be available....

It would be the right location but there were rumours they wanted LI out. Not sure they'd want another rugby tenant. Lotus Road could be another option. Then again they could just go down the route of temporary stands ala Bath. Bath have nearly 5k of temporary seats. Parking and other issues might continue to an issue though.

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Post by Welshmushroom Mon 26 Jun 2023, 12:14 pm

Joseph is being linked from Bath to Agen. They are looking at a possible contract buy out.

Bath might me tempted as Lawrence has been starting ahead of him lately. Would imagine that could give them some room in the salary cap as well to strengthen other areas.

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Post by Welshmushroom Mon 26 Jun 2023, 12:15 pm

Out of interest will there be relegation in the Premiership this year?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 26 Jun 2023, 1:01 pm

Welshmushroom wrote:Joseph is being linked from Bath to Agen.  They are looking at a possible contract buy out.

Bath might me tempted as Lawrence has been starting ahead of him lately.  Would imagine that could give them some room in the salary cap as well to strengthen other areas.

They are hyping an announcement from the club so potentially a big signing or two incoming. Getting Joseph off the wage bill would help. Harsh on him as he's a quality player, deserves a big pay day in the French sunshine.

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Post by Geordie Mon 26 Jun 2023, 1:04 pm

Welshmushroom wrote:Out of interest will there be relegation in the Premiership this year?

Nope...

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Post by Geordie Mon 26 Jun 2023, 1:05 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Welshmushroom wrote:Joseph is being linked from Bath to Agen.  They are looking at a possible contract buy out.

Bath might me tempted as Lawrence has been starting ahead of him lately.  Would imagine that could give them some room in the salary cap as well to strengthen other areas.

They are hyping an announcement from the club so potentially a big signing or two incoming. Getting Joseph off the wage bill would help. Harsh on him as he's a quality player, deserves a big pay day in the French sunshine.

Hes 32...so good time for a last big contract abroad and good to offload and bring youth in,.

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Post by Welshmushroom Mon 26 Jun 2023, 1:12 pm

yeah makes sense. Looking at their roster they could do with a quality wing and a hooker. Cowan Dickie still looking for a club right?

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 26 Jun 2023, 2:17 pm

Geordie wrote:
Welshmushroom wrote:Out of interest will there be relegation in the Premiership this year?

Nope...

9 teams, or 10 with one coming up (Ealing?) ? Is it becoming ringfenced?

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Post by doctor_grey Mon 26 Jun 2023, 9:33 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Geordie wrote:
Welshmushroom wrote:Out of interest will there be relegation in the Premiership this year?

Nope...

9 teams, or 10 with one coming up (Ealing?) ? Is it becoming ringfenced?
Mikey, I don't think anyone knows for sure at this point. Just a few seasons ago we were talking about a 14 team league. Point being things change quickly. I'm not sure if the intent is to ring fence long term or not. My guess is the league will become ringfenced and new clubs with facilities (or concrete, well-financed plans for right sized facilities) and strong financial backing will apply for entry.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 27 Jun 2023, 7:22 am

I suspect a 10 team league initially, maybe we some promotion and relegation but with those criteria still in place. Working towards a ring fenced set up of 20 teams split between 2 leagues is the latest idea. That sounds like a couple of years away as the idea is to allow phoenix iterations of the deceased clubs into the bottom of the two leagues.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 27 Jun 2023, 1:31 pm

Agen also linked to Patchell, Webb and Tyler Morgan.

Jaminet is attempting to leave Toulouse, to Toulon, but do not want him to leave.

Ben white, still be courted by Toulon.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 27 Jun 2023, 2:07 pm

The Jaminet move to Toulouse did seem an odd one when they already had Ramos on the books.

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Post by Oakdene Tue 27 Jun 2023, 2:15 pm

Big signing for us, confirmed now that Taine Plumtree will play at Parc Y Scarlets next season!!

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue 27 Jun 2023, 2:20 pm

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/rugby-transfers-and-rumours-warrick-gelant-melvyn-jaminet-rhys-patchell-and-much-more

Some news here, it's actually a bit quicker than this thread.

One they've missed off, is Taine Plumtree signing for the Scarlets.

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Post by TAFKA The Oracle Tue 27 Jun 2023, 4:55 pm

Plumtree is Welsh born and bred! Didn't know that. But saw the surname and thought it must be something to do with John Plumtree as it's not a common surname. Will be interesting to see how he goes. He was highly spoken about in NZ over the past few years.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 27 Jun 2023, 5:15 pm

Glaws have announced;

Scrum-half, Caolan Englefield, lock/backrow, Ben Donnell and wing, Michael Dykes all join the Senior squad with exciting fly half, Rory Taylor and powerful tight-head prop, Afolabi Fasogban joining our Academy squad.

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Post by king_carlos Tue 27 Jun 2023, 5:19 pm

Dykes is a very shrewd signing with May aging and LRZ with Wales. He could be a cracking winger.

Fasogban is a big talent too.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 27 Jun 2023, 9:34 pm

king_carlos wrote:Dykes is a very shrewd signing with May aging and LRZ with Wales. He could be a cracking winger.

Fasogban is a big talent too.

Those two and Haffar who's gone to Saints were the three I was rather hoping we'd add to the development squad/wider senior squad.

Glaws getting Fasogbon in is a major coup for them. They've got some solid tightheads that have been tremendously steady for them but Fasogbon can offer that and a lot more on top of that. Agree on Dykes, he's looked more than handy so far in his brief appearances.

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Post by Welshmushroom Wed 28 Jun 2023, 1:04 pm

Highlanders are having a big clear out. Clearly a lot of the senior players let go didn't cut it in Super Rugby. Wonder if Burns will play another season somewhere or if he is going to retire.

Reckon he could still do a job for a Welsh Team the way were looking stocked at Fly Half at most the regions. Guessing he won't be expensive either.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed 28 Jun 2023, 1:20 pm

Welshmushroom wrote:Highlanders are having a big clear out.  Clearly a lot of the senior players let go didn't cut it in Super Rugby.  Wonder if Burns will play another season somewhere or if he is going to retire.  

Reckon he could still do a job for a Welsh Team the way were looking stocked at Fly Half at most the regions.  Guessing he won't be expensive either.

He's off to Japan. The deal in New Zealand was an opportunity for him to tick it off his bucket list before the next Japanese season started.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Jun 2023, 10:24 am

Marcus Smith reportedly agreed personal terms with Racing

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 30 Jun 2023, 10:53 am

Literally just read the move was off?

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 30 Jun 2023, 11:07 am

Yeah I heard Racing had been frustrated in their attempts to bring him in.

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 30 Jun 2023, 12:07 pm

Ed Scragg joins Scarlets... Dragons need pull something or someone out of a hat soon!

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Post by Oakdene Fri 30 Jun 2023, 2:48 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Ed Scragg joins Scarlets... Dragons need pull something or someone out of a hat soon!

QUite happy with that, a position we need to get a bit of depth in.

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 30 Jun 2023, 5:50 pm

I can’t see any more signings in this area now though, maybe a new TH incoming?

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Post by mikey_dragon Fri 30 Jun 2023, 9:43 pm

Creevy off to Sale?

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Jun 2023, 9:47 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Creevy off to Sale?

Would make sense with Van Der Merwe leaving

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Jun 2023, 9:48 pm

Joseph Snr, Webb and Houas all linked with a move to Biarritz

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Post by RiscaGame Fri 30 Jun 2023, 11:39 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:I can’t see any more signings in this area now though, maybe a new TH incoming?

Was always meant to be a prop of some sorts. Not heard a rumour though. Happy with Slabbert an SA lock, plus what we have made. Guess we will chance our arm from the RWC for a prop.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 01 Jul 2023, 12:49 pm

Fluxy wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Creevy off to Sale?
Would make sense with Van Der Merwe leaving
And Creevy is still international class - and a former and successful captain of Argentina. feckin awful signing from a Saints pov. Great for Sale and the Premiership, though....

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 01 Jul 2023, 3:41 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
Fluxy wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Creevy off to Sale?
Would make sense with Van Der Merwe leaving
And Creevy is still international class - and a former and successful captain of Argentina.  feckin awful signing from a Saints pov.  Great for Sale and the Premiership, though....

Sale having LCD, Creevy and Taylor as their hookers for next season is a decent selection isn't it. Ashman and Akker were good players to lose but that's some replacements. I'm a little surprised they haven't announced the signing of another prop but it could still be announced.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 01 Jul 2023, 6:17 pm

RiscaGame wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:I can’t see any more signings in this area now though, maybe a new TH incoming?

Was always meant to be a prop of some sorts. Not heard a rumour though. Happy with Slabbert an SA lock, plus what we have made. Guess we will chance our arm from the RWC for a prop.

I was talking about Scarlets with that comment. I hadn’t heard us linked with Deon Slabbert though - I don’t think that’s going to improve us much but guys like Schickerling are apparently too costly. Not heard anything else on the prop and/or signings front. Also a bit ridiculous that WRU have to sign off all these. They haven’t got a clue.

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Post by RiscaGame Sun 02 Jul 2023, 1:22 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
RiscaGame wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:I can’t see any more signings in this area now though, maybe a new TH incoming?

Was always meant to be a prop of some sorts. Not heard a rumour though. Happy with Slabbert an SA lock, plus what we have made. Guess we will chance our arm from the RWC for a prop.

I was talking about Scarlets with that comment. I hadn’t heard us linked with Deon Slabbert though - I don’t think that’s going to improve us much but guys like Schickerling are apparently too costly. Not heard anything else on the prop and/or signings front. Also a bit ridiculous that WRU have to sign off all these. They haven’t got a clue.

Ah sorry.

So when Steffan Thomas dropped his exclusive for Wales Online, Kirwan said then that it’s Slabbert we were after. 606’s old mate Phil says we did offer Schickerling a deal though, but were priced out of it.

Apparently the WRU have allowed Cardiff to sign their SA ten now too. So I guess they have two players or something like that.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 02 Jul 2023, 10:25 pm

Fluxy wrote:Joseph Snr, Webb and Houas all linked with a move to Biarritz

I think that’s been confirmed now. I don’t get why Webb would miss the RWC and go there, especially after it ‘not working out’ for his family when he was at Toulon. It must be a very big wage packet.

Henry Thomas also staying with Montpellier to see out his contract. He has another season left, not sure after that.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 03 Jul 2023, 9:57 am

mikey_dragon wrote:
Fluxy wrote:Joseph Snr, Webb and Houas all linked with a move to Biarritz

I think that’s been confirmed now. I don’t get why Webb would miss the RWC and go there, especially after it ‘not working out’ for his family when he was at Toulon. It must be a very big wage packet.

Henry Thomas also staying with Montpellier to see out his contract. He has another season left, not sure after that.

I presume with Webb it was a case of their being no good offers in Wales and not much on offer in the Prem. He's 34 so there's probably one decent sized contract left and he knows he needs to make the most of it.

Joseph has lots to give but found himself out of favour under van Graan so a nice few years in the sun down in Southern France on a good wedge sounds excellent I'm sure. At 32 that could conceivably be a three year deal to see him into virtual retirement.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 03 Jul 2023, 7:28 pm

Rhys Litterick to Cardiff confirmed now, it was rumoured a while back. They look set to land de Beer too after that was previously blocked, as previously mentioned here too. No use in signing these unless they get coaches, starting with Dai Young.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 04 Jul 2023, 8:40 am

Tigers have signed Matt Rogerson and Joe Powell from defunct Irish. And also Mike Williams returning and Kieran Wilkinson from Sale

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Post by king_carlos Tue 04 Jul 2023, 10:24 am

I'm happy with Rogerson, Powell and Wilkinson. The latter two are signings where additions make sense. Powell in particular I think could be really shrewd.

Rogerson gives Tigers three players of very similar style who play 6/8 in Liebenberg, Rogerson and Hatherell. So I guess that's less a case of where a hole needed plugging, more a case of adding a quality player who suddenly became available. I really rate Rogerson and in he current Premiership market doubt he'd break the bank so I don't mind it in this instance.

Less sure on Williams. With several locks in international contention and Harry Wells rumoured to be injured Tigers do need depth there. I just wouldn't have gone for Williams from the EQP free agents. Charlie Matthews would've been my pick from that criteria. I'd have taken Greg Petersen over Williams these days too. Or checked if Justin Clegg was certain about the retirement decision at only 26-years-old. If not looking for EQP then Api Ratuniyarawa is still a quality performer and would be back the same week the Prem restarts even if he is in the Fiji squad. Lots of options out there basically. Williams will have been cheap though, once looked a really talented player so hopefully he can recapture some of that.

Hopefully still waiting on Watson extending and a LH. There's some rumours floating around that Tigers are targeting Fischetti which I'd love but yet to see anything substantiating it.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue 04 Jul 2023, 4:45 pm

Yeah it's three good squad players and then Mike Williams who with any luck won't actually have to play a game for us.

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