2nd QF Ireland v New Zealand - Stade de France, Saint Denis

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Ireland: Keenan, Hansen, Ringrose, Aki, Lowe; Sexton (capt), Gibson-Park; Porter, Sheehan, Furlong; Beirne, Henderson; O'Mahony, Van der Flier, Doris.

Replacements: Kelleher, Kilcoyne, Bealham, McCarthy, Conan, Murray, Crowley, O'Brien.

New Zealand: Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Richie Mo'unga, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c), Shannon Frizell, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot

Replacements: Dane Coles, Tamaiti Williams, Fletcher Newell, Samuel Whitelock, Dalton Papali'i, Finlay Christie, Damian McKenzie

Referee: Wayne Barnes TMO: Tom Foley

Assistant referees: Matthew Carley and Christophe Ridley

Fair play NZ that was an epic performance

Tough luck Ireland

That shouldn't have been a QF

Oh dear Ireland. Oh dear

Exhausting stuff. Absolutely knackering.

Commiserations to Ireland. Congratulations to New Zealand.

I'll probably say something petty and WUM-like in a day or 2, but Ireland, hats off, ye did yersel proud. 37 phases to end is gargantuan-like. Feel for you.

Amazing. Well done both teams. Won't see a better game all World Cup.

Ireland obviously a top four team, not a QF team, that's just the way the draw has worked. Nothing should prevent NZ from reaching the final. Cane and Mo'unga were outstanding tonight.

well that was exhausting

We had the opportunity we just couldn't get over the line.
Superb from NZ.

What a game. I think everyone will have loved watching it.

Wow… You have to say, All Blacks were very good. The NH found wanting at the KO stages of the World Cup again.

What a rugby match. Astonishing quality on show. That just pips the Ireland vs Boks game for me as game of the tournament.

I honestly thought that Ardie gave away an advantage with no clear release. He released eventually but after slowing it.

Just an incredible game from start to finish. Heart stopping stuff at the end.

Woohoo, great game from both sides. Massive for the ABs to get this side who don’t know how to lose. All heart.
Kia Kaha!

Wonderful game of rugby that. Skill levels were outstanding.

New Zealand were incredible at the breakdown and that rolling maul save from Jordie Barrett was as good as scoring a try.

Duty281 wrote:Amazing. Well done both teams. Won't see a better game all World Cup.

Ireland obviously a top four team, not a QF team, that's just the way the draw has worked. Nothing should prevent NZ from reaching the final. Cane and Mo'unga were outstanding tonight.

Best have seen from Cane since the day he knocked Wales over. Stood up.

Brilliant game, I know the draw is the draw, but for Ireland to go out in the QF is just sad. They deserve to get more out of this world cup. On this display they would have beaten most teams.

Congrats to NZ, I knew they would be back. What a match

Taylorman wrote:Woohoo, great game from both sides. Massive for the ABs to get this side who don’t know how to lose. All heart.
Kia Kaha!

Yup the nz side are so slow they don't remember any day longer than 35 days ago.

Brilliant game. Hats off to both teams.

Fair few on both sides who realised this was their last shot and gave it absolutely everything

Duty281 wrote:Amazing. Well done both teams. Won't see a better game all World Cup.

Ireland obviously a top four team, not a QF team, that's just the way the draw has worked. Nothing should prevent NZ from reaching the final. Cane and Mo'unga were outstanding tonight.

Savea my man of the match

Cane and Ardie were both excellent. As were the axis of Mo'unga, Beauden and Jordie.

That's the best I've seen from Retallick for a long while too.

I thought Bierne was brilliant for Ireland. As was Aki.

Hansen going off felt like a big turning point.

Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

Was a great game of rugby.

I fear Ireland may never get another chance as good as this to have won a world cup. They really have been the best team in world rugby the last 2 years.

Welshmushroom wrote:Was a great game of rugby.

I fear Ireland may never get another chance as good as this to have won a world cup.  They really have been the best team in world rugby the last 2 years.  

Unfortunately the last two years count for nothing in knock out rugby

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

It's always the case that a tournament like the WC will result in disappointment.  Ireland were in a selection of 4 that thought stood a real good chance of a win but it comes down to a bit of luck as well. For me the second best in the world so you're going to have a good few years ahead.

Welshmushroom wrote:Was a great game of rugby.

I fear Ireland may never get another chance as good as this to have won a world cup.  They really have been the best team in world rugby the last 2 years.  

I don’t know… they’ve still got Leinster and some good U20 teams.

It is disheartening that the NH teams come up short in the KO stages again. Even Arg have been a great KO stages team on a few occasions. Let’s see what France can bring.

First off well done New Zealand.
That’s a tough loss to take. Couple of silly pens given away. Being held up over the line.

8 points behind and to come back to a point, thought we could have nicked it.
I think nerves played a part in the early stages of the game.
New Zealand got into their groove early on and rocked us perhaps.

They are an awesome side and did well when down to 14.

What might have been. Yet again we fail at the quarter final stage.
Tough one to take again.

Thought O’Brien looked decent when he came on.
Ah well.

Hard luck to us and good luck to New Zealand. Some team. Enjoy the rest of the tournament kiwis.

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Taylorman wrote:Woohoo, great game from both sides. Massive for the ABs to get this side who don’t know how to lose. All heart.
Kia Kaha!

Yup the nz side are so slow they don't remember any day longer than 35 days ago.

Wtf is this comment about??? Have a word with yourself 7.5!

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

As Kiwis say the sun will still rise tomorrow and perhaps at the very least they will know now we are a serious side. Im proud of this Ireland side I hope they are too.

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

mikey_dragon wrote:

Welshmushroom wrote:Was a great game of rugby.

I fear Ireland may never get another chance as good as this to have won a world cup.  They really have been the best team in world rugby the last 2 years.  

I don’t know… they’ve still got Leinster and some good U20 teams.

It is disheartening that the NH teams come up short in the KO stages again. Even Arg have been a great KO stages team on a few occasions. Let’s see what France can bring.

I'm not so sure. That was a pretty special Ireland squad. Could be decades before Ireland produce another national team like that one again? They had some really special players in that squad.

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

TAFKA The Oracle wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Taylorman wrote:Woohoo, great game from both sides. Massive for the ABs to get this side who don’t know how to lose. All heart.
Kia Kaha!

Yup the nz side are so slow they don't remember any day longer than 35 days ago.

Wtf is this comment about??? Have a word with yourself 7.5!

Erm....

A few are getting really precious over Ireland’s response to the haka. Didn’t think it was disrespectful tbh.

mikey_dragon wrote:A few are getting really precious over Ireland’s response to the haka. Didn’t think it was disrespectful tbh.

What the Frak was Smith holding in his hands during the Haka? What next shaking actual spears? Scotland bringing on some broadswords and claymores? No doubt an item of immense cultural significance.

mikey_dragon wrote:A few are getting really precious over Ireland’s response to the haka. Didn’t think it was disrespectful tbh.

Any reaction is never disrespectful. We’ve seen it all and take all comers. We appreciate it’s an inherently NZ thing and overseas the cultural aspect can be lost. For anyone who has performed Haka it’s introspective. It’s about personal values and not designed to intimidate — no matter how it appears to do exactly that. It’s about respect, for the game, the opposition and oneself. We practice it out of respect for who we play.

Mcsweens wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:A few are getting really precious over Ireland’s response to the haka. Didn’t think it was disrespectful tbh.

What the Frak was Smith holding in his hands during the Haka? What next shaking actual spears? Scotland bringing on some broadswords and claymores? No doubt an item of immense cultural significance.

Was wondering myself. I think the next step is to kill one of their own players to show their opponents they mean business.

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

Was great. Have not seen a defence like it from the Irish, Fk it was annoying. No idea how we won that to be honest.
What a test match.
Ten quarter losses it must be said. Those who said it’s not about history might wanna rethink that.
Today proved EVERYTHING is about history.

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

Unfortunately agree, most of the match he was just ambling along. If we'd a more experienced option on the bench he may well have been replaced

theslosty wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

Unfortunately agree, most of the match he was just ambling along. If we'd a more experienced option on the bench he may well have been replaced

Like Paddy Jackson. I'll get my coat

Superbad is on BBC1 just now, and I've had a few beers.

Apparently Blair Kinghorn is called "McLovin" in the Edinburgh team. Not because he's a ladies man or anything, just cos he's a bit weird.

Gary Ringrose reminds me of Evan, and Finlay Bealam is Seth.

theslosty wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

Unfortunately agree, most of the match he was just ambling along. If we'd a more experienced option on the bench he may well have been replaced

That chip and "chase" towards the end was a bit unfortunate

Taylorman wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

Was great. Have not seen a defence like it from the Irish, Fk it was annoying. No idea how we won that to be honest.
What a test match.
Ten quarter losses it must be said. Those who said it’s not about history might wanna rethink that.
Today proved EVERYTHING is about history.

Still dont think it was that relevant, two good sides there has to be a loser.

In the old days, after a match like that, one would simply say: THAT was a proper test match!

No 7&1/2 wrote:

Taylorman wrote:Woohoo, great game from both sides. Massive for the ABs to get this side who don’t know how to lose. All heart.
Kia Kaha!

Yup the nz side are so slow they don't remember any day longer than 35 days ago.

Thanks for contributing

Collapse2005 wrote:

Taylorman wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Of course
Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

Was great. Have not seen a defence like it from the Irish, Fk it was annoying. No idea how we won that to be honest.
What a test match.
Ten quarter losses it must be said. Those who said it’s not about history might wanna rethink that.
Today proved EVERYTHING is about history.

Still dont think it was that relevant, two good sides there has to be a loser.

Of course it’s relevant. Ireland lost after 17 wins in a tenth quarter final loss. It means they go four years wondering if they can ever do it being number one and 17 wins- then WHEN CAN THEY?
History is everything.. because that’s all you have.

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

2-0 to the south. Long may it continue. Good to see kiwis getting all the tries today too.

Taylorman wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

Old Man wrote:

Collapse2005 wrote:

RDW wrote:

Mcsweens wrote:Hate to say it but Sexton showed his relative decline tonight. Mo'unga and Beauden were on a different level.

A fair point - in that last 10 mins he was just shoveling the ball on, and that pen miss was a bad one.

Ah here he missed one pen, so did NZ after he missed his.

He had a good game and championship and can hold his head high. Great player.

Commiserations Collapse, I know you must be hurting.

Thank you, it doesnt hurt as much when you stay in the fight against a hell of a team and I thought they did.

Yes Ireland gave it their all. The result was as close as it could get,

2-0 to the south. Long may it continue. Good to see kiwis getting all the tries today too.

I feel that the NH will win both semis tomorrow.

NZ vs France again in the final.

What a game.....congrats to NZ, bad times Ireland.

Not wumming, but all this talk pre-game about the quarter-final curse not being a thing......it's a thing. Ireland would beat this (relatively average NZ side for a NZ side) 9 times out of 10 in different circumstances. I honestly think the occasion got to them and thy choked under pressure, I'm sorry to say.

Commiserations to Ireland fans. If it’s any consolation I wouldn’t feel too down this week. The future is very good for Irish rugby. Even last night Ireland were millimetres from winning what could well have been a RWC final. The calmness of Ireland on such an occasion, despite the game not going their way for large parts, showed how far they’ve come since the Joe Schmidt era. You could tell the players gave it their all.

Commiserations Ireland. An impressive team that has grown into a confident force

That knock on from an AB goal line drop kick was crucial and let us off the hook. Unlucky Ireland and shame this was a 1/4 as they’re better than a 1/4 exit. The backline made ground easily at times and retained possession well. Reverted to shovelling the ball in the last phase and that was costly. Were either knackered, too conservative or angling for a pen and kick to corner for a maul? Anyways, proud of the ABs for being patient and not doing anything stupid in that critical time. Great game, tense as heck, and will enjoy the highlights more knowing the final score.

ps. And shout out to Wayne Barnes and both teams for a flowing game