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Donegal v Tyrone
Dublin v Kildare
Wexford v Carlow
London v Fermanagh
Antrim v Westmeath
Clare v Down
Cavan v Longford
Wicklow v Sligo
Laois v Tipperary
Louth v Meath
Offaly v Monaghan

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Cork V Ofally
Antrim v Carlow

well done to the dub u-21s for coming from behind to reach the Leinster final.

Anyone know (or care) when thee Ulster final has been rearranged for.

RB,
You seem to genuinely believe Cork get hard done by by referees!...............
I think Offaly will be rightly miffed with the one minute additional played at Pairc Ui Chiomh on Saturday..........i seem to recall 3 clear penalties that Limerick should have had against Cork in the Football last year...one given...........

To be honest John, it's all swings and roundabouts. I wouldnt say we get any particular favours fromnthe refs. For those examples you gave I could mention things like the Munster final last year where the ref blatantly played for the draw when a puff of wind knocked Gooch over, giving them a draw.

I'd agree with you on the injury time on Saturday but Offaly threw it away. They had some awful wides and played against 14 men for most of the game.

To say the ref's favour any team is bullshit. I can give you all examples of Dublin being robbed over the year's but im not one for making excuse's for game's that happened year's ago like some people on here.

Agree completely that no counties are favoured on purpose..............sometimes when certain people are playing "the martyr" (RB), it's good to have a reality check!!

Dub,were you at the match yesterday? According to a fella on the rugby boards who was at it, it was clearly a free. The cameras didn't show much but then again they don't pick up everything.

I was at the game yes and at the time the free was give I could'nt really tell if it was or not. Having seen it on the Sunday game I don't think it was a free at all and I did feel a bit sorry for Kildare. The ref was shocking all day long and I hope he does'nt get the chance to do this agian because he has reffed two game's this year and has been awful in both.

Cluxton was poor from what I saw of the match. His kickouts were shocking and if Bernie hadn't stepped up at the end they would have cost Dublin the win. The goal he conceded was a great strike but no keeper should be beaten on the 21 in football.

No it was'nt his best game, I thought that Kildare goal may have taken a deflection or something at the time but it was a good strike, I agree though, he should'nt be getting beat along the grond from that far out.

John Cregan wrote:RB,
You seem to genuinely believe Cork get hard done by by referees!...............
I think Offaly will be rightly miffed with the one minute additional played at Pairc Ui Chiomh on Saturday..........i seem to recall 3 clear penalties that Limerick should have had against Cork in the Football last year...one given...........

I can recall one you didn't get.
we get nothing against the animals at any rate.

Offaly played 14 men for most of the game.

John Cregan wrote:Agree completely that no counties are favoured on purpose..............sometimes when certain people are playing "the martyr" (RB), it's good to have a reality check!!

I Play it on behalf of all counties. Kerry certainly get more than their fair share of breaks.

I'm welling up here!!

Rebel, was'nt it Gary Player who said, "The more I practice the luckier I get". I think that might apply to teams like Kerry while with other counties it always some other person's fault. Getting hammered by teams and then complaining about refs is not really credible.
Anyway back to the action, I did not see 1 minute of it yesterday. Mayo/Galway result was expected and Dublin/Kildare was always going to be a flick of a coin. However of more interest is what happened to Tyrone? Did they get Tyroned by Donegal. Is it the end of the road or just a blip? I did'nt even get to see the highlights.

I've mentioned this guy here before, but what's the story with O'Flaharta??
Is it not the case that his record with Westmeath and now Galway(if you include the league) is awful??

Is it because he is a Kerryman that other counties believe he is better than everyone in their own county?? When he took over at Westmeath from O Se, he invented a method of playing with about 8 defenders and he took off one of Galways only dangerous forwards yesterday Bane).

I have nothing against the man whatsoever, I just don't get it that he is being given inter county jobs??

I agree John. He did nothing after O Sé left Westmeath and he has been disastrous with Galway. The other thing I cannot understand is why a county like Galway needs to appoint outside managers. The same goes for Meath. These are real football counties with plenty of capable and knowledgeable people within their own ranks.

Thomond wrote:God I hate Spillane. He is a terrible pundit. He comes out with great lines like George Hook but is awful. Davis seems to be doing an alright job. I don't mind O'Rourke either.

Get back to your Rugby Thomond! Pat Spillane was one of the greatest footballers of all time. Who the hell is George Hook?

akaredtop wrote:

Thomond wrote:God I hate Spillane. He is a terrible pundit. He comes out with great lines like George Hook but is awful. Davis seems to be doing an alright job. I don't mind O'Rourke either.

Get back to your Rugby Thomond! Pat Spillane was one of the greatest footballers of all time. Who the hell is George Hook?

he is still a bais pundit and anti ulster.

akaredtop wrote:Rebel, was'nt it Gary Player who said, "The more I practice the luckier I get". I think that might apply to teams like Kerry while with other counties it always some other person's fault. Getting hammered by teams and then complaining about refs is not really credible. .

so you practice cheating?

Rebel, have you an example of cheating by Kerry? Or is it the ref missing something?

yes.

didn john miskella punch brian mc guigan back of the head in 2009 and only got yellow?

correct.

after Alan O'Connor had been sent off for nothing at all. The ref evened it up imo

so a ref makes a mistake he has to even it up? o connor was 2nd yellow you dont get booked twice for nothing.

i never said that did I?

O'Connor's red was rescinded. He was wrongly red carded.

In my opinion, the ref evened it up. He never saw the incident and took a guess.

I never said it was right

you think he would have evened it up if tyrone had done the same? i dont think so

sounds like miskella new he would get away with it so he took a swipe knowing it had to be evened up. nice team cork.

It was nothing like that at all.

You were getting hosed. Had it been 15 on 15 for longer, as it should have been, you would have been hosed far worse

really so why he do it? he wouldnt have done it against kerry .

you could say that but cavanagh didnt start and when he came on he done nothing its all on the day.

it seemed to be a fit of pique.

I do say that. If the ref had made the right calls, you were in for a tanking.

wheres the proof? cork didnt colaspe kept ahead tyrone scored a couple before half time. dosent say to me cork would have won by 7+ if o connor was on. and a 5 point defeat without the 08 player of the year for most of it and didn play we he did come on. not surprised kerry sorted them out atleast tyrone knew how to beat em.

I don't know if its just me, but the influence refs are having on games this year seems to be much more than usual with a few big decisions that have been got wrong so far, like the decisions in the Meath v kildare game and the dubs last minute free.

I wouldn't say that there is bias towards certain counties by some refs, just gross incompetence. Mcgeeney was positively furious about the last minute free kick. Regardless I refuse to blame referees for defeats, I am one for respecting the ref wether he is right or wrong but in these occasions it is hard not to when these big decisions are got so blatantly wrong.

There has to be a real shake-up somewhere, people are going to get right peed off with this and its going to cause a riot or something one of these days. I don't know if anyone has heard yet but there was a similar situation in a ladies club game in Ulster which ended in a spectator attacking the ref and a county official who came to his aid with them being knocked unconscious and in need of hospitalisation.

On the subject of Cork and Kerry decisions the last incident I remember was in the 2008 season when aiden o'mahoney contemplated for a few secs before acting like he'd been shot in the face after receiving what looked like a love tap from a rebel player. O'mahoney's acting skills got the Cork man a straight red.

it was tyrone

patrick91 wrote:wheres the proof? cork didnt colaspe kept ahead tyrone scored a couple before half time. dosent say to me cork would have won by 7+ if o connor was on. and a 5 point defeat without the 08 player of the year for most of it and didn play we he did come on. not surprised kerry sorted them out atleast tyrone knew how to beat em.

yeah...by cheating

the proof? you were getting tonked 15 on 15 and you still lost 15 on 14 ....easily. Cavanagh not performing is his own fault.

Gaelic-Warrior wrote:

On the subject of Cork and Kerry decisions the last incident I remember was in the 2008 season when aiden o'mahoney contemplated for a few secs before acting like he'd been shot in the face after receiving what looked like a love tap from a rebel player. O'mahoney's acting skills got the Cork man a straight red.

Donncha O'Connor got the red.

Speaking of Tyrone have you seen this patrick-
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=150486

Cooney's recent visit to the shankhill must have turned a couple of stomachs. Really feel for people who put the effort in to uniting communities in the six counties through sport when they've got to put up with gobshites like this.

cheating? you call hitting someone then going like nothing has happened is fair. we still knew how to beat kerry.

Gaelic-Warrior wrote:I don't know if its just me, but the influence refs are having on games this year seems to be much more than usual with a few big decisions that have been got wrong so far, like the decisions in the Meath v kildare game and the dubs last minute free.

Kerry secured a draw against us last year with a free every bit as soft as yesterdays, if not more.... along with a host of other decisions that they got across the 2 games.

patrick91 wrote:cheating? you call hitting someone then going like nothing has happened is fair. we still knew how to beat kerry.

no, I'm calling it cheating....how Kerry managed to beat us.

seen it earlier sad that people like this still excist. think hes geeting mixed up though london play waterford not donegal.

even with the cheating i still think cork should have beat kerry.

Shoulda coulda woulda.

we got out thought by a smarter management on the day. we are a lot smarter now, if not as dynamic.

this is tsg's thoughts on cork v tyrone 2009. warts n' all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAw7xLStdzE

O'Conner's red card in that game- No contact, blatant dive.

proof of how anti tyrone gaa is 03 kerry clip and 09 cork clip.

I wouldn't say that was anti-Tyrone Patrick. If you watched the whole video they were complimenting the red hands on some of the football they played and their modesty as champions.

thats cus tyrone were beat there so different when tyrones winning they hate it.

iv never seen spillane as happy as when cork beat us the glee in his eyes as he said that sorts out all the crp about totd.

in 03 it was great tackling in 09 its fouling.

Sounds a wee bit like what they were talking about in the studio Patrick. The pundits spoke about "the myth that the southern media are against tyrone". I never saw much of TSG when Tyrone started to become a dominant force, but from what I have seen there hasn't been a great bias against them. Spillane probably still had the defeats to Tyrone in mind.

they are still doing it its no myth i thought spillane was the worst for many years but iv found its o rourke his bais towards longford and how they will beat tyrone is not nuetral imo talked up longford as if tyrone didn do anything in the last 10 years. longford has a chance ofcourse they do but to say it in a manner as if they are playing a lesser county and not the most recent totd.

brolly is the only one who has kept nuetral but then again he is from the north.

akaredtop wrote:

Thomond wrote:God I hate Spillane. He is a terrible pundit. He comes out with great lines like George Hook but is awful. Davis seems to be doing an alright job. I don't mind O'Rourke either.

Get back to your Rugby Thomond! Pat Spillane was one of the greatest footballers of all time. Who the hell is George Hook?

Wht's him being a great player have to do wih his punditry. As we have seen before just because you're a great player doesn't make you a great manager/pundit. Hook is an analyst for RTE.

Simple facts are that Cork were not good enough to beat Kerry last year.

Cork picked up a gear or 2 after the Munster Championship and won a deserved All Ireland.
Had they met Kerry again I don't think they would have pulled it off.

Sunday's game will be very interesting and I expect Cork to get a resounding win in Killarney.

I've still to see this week's TSG, but just becuse they're not slobberin all over Tyrone and are talking up Longford's chances dosen't mean they're anti-Tyrone. They are TV pundits at the end of the day, they're not their to be neutral or to be blatantly biased against/ toward certain counties, they're there to voice their opinions. And what's with this totd jazz, there's no official totd so what do you use to class a totd?

yesterday wasent just a one of jibe against tyrone its happens alot non tyrone people wouldnt notice it. listen to them talk about the match on sunday the delight in their voices tyrone got beat.

even the northern media delight when tyrone lose the bbc pundits were jumping around the studio in clones.

pat spillane rte etc started it not tyrone.