The MTO debate

First topic message reminder :

I don't understand why threads are being closed so easily. Yes I do, like many here, believe that Nadal faked an injury today AGAIN. I predicted that he would finish the match and even the championship. Unlike at the AO, you can tell when it's fake. At the AO he was a step slower. Some see it, some don't but at least I am entitled to my view and express it on this forum. That's what we are here for.

Maybe I don't have tangible proof that he faked it (despite winning a Delpotro in form), but noone has proof he did not fake it either, right. We are all expressing views so please LK, stop closing down thread for expressing views on players.

That's the reason many of us joined that forum, whether we are right or wrong.

You guys DO realize you are just drawing attention to it all by adding posts?

<yawn>

If you really find it that boring here we can always help you find the way out

Davie wrote:If you really find it that boring here we can always help you find the way out

Please be gentle with Jubba and Lydian. The quality of posts (and hence the popularity of the forum) is directly proportional to the number of intelligent posters on the forum.

What's happened? Has Jubbahay finally come out as a Rafalito and resigned his moderation duties?

bogbrush wrote:What's happened? Has Jubbahay finally come out as a Rafalito and resigned his moderation duties?

:Laugh: On those words, off I go to court 1...cheering for Mardi Shark!!

Afternoon everyone,

I'd like to think we can have a peaceful day on here today.

This is a great tennis forum.......I'm astounded at the knowledge of some of the posters on here and I really enjoy reading your contributions.....so let's not spoil it.

I hope you enjoy the tennis, no matter who you support, and let's be civil to one another ( I appreciate that most of you are...so thank you)

Solerina

Davie wrote:You guys DO realize you are just drawing attention to it all by adding posts?

This thread should have been closed long ago, the arguments are just going round in circles. If anyone's got anything relevant to say on the subject let em start a new thread.

[quote="Davie"]If you really find it that boring here we can always help you find the way out[/quote]

What is that a thread to ban??

it does not take a genius to bring some site down these days .. administrators should be cautious when saying something.. not just politically


Why do we need to close or lock any thread ? let it takes its natural course.

parthi wrote:it does not take a genius to bring some site down these days .. administrators should be cautious when saying something.. not just politically

Is that a threat? It doesn't take a genius to ban someone...users should be cautious when they say something
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parthi wrote:Why do we need to close or lock any thread ? let it takes its natural course.

I agree, there aren't any posts breaking site rules. If people want to continue an argument they are more than welcome!

I'm not an admin, i don't have to exercise caution when i say something and it does not have any adverse effect on this forum and what it represents.

Where as when an admin says and does something it does.

my 2 paise!!

The main good thing about this forum is that Catalan Power isn't clowning around.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:The main good thing about this forum is that Catalan Power isn't clowning around.

Don't kid yourself he is here under another name!

But he does seem to have cleaned up "his act"

Davie wrote:If you really find it that boring here we can always help you find the way out

After you, age before beauty.

Bormoir is here but he finds it boring here

Be my guest - let's see who can help the other find the exit first

Davie wrote:Be my guest - let's see who can help the other find the exit first

You mean you don't know where the Ban button is ? I'm sure someone in the mod department could help you.

You do remember I resigned my post as a mod, mainly because of you.

Jubbahey wrote:

Davie wrote:Be my guest - let's see who can help the other find the exit first

You mean you don't know where the Ban button is ? I'm sure someone in the mod department could help you.

You do remember I resigned my post as a mod, mainly because of you.

superlike!

I know exactly where the ban button is and I haven't forgotten how to use it. You should remember that. As it is, I'm speaking at the moment with my user hat on, not my admin hat - but that can easily change if you so desire

Davie wrote:I know exactly where the ban button is and I haven't forgotten how to use it. You should remember that. As it is, I'm speaking at the moment with my user hat on, not my admin hat - but that can easily change if you so desire

Power corrupts.....,

WEhy do you even bothr to come to tennis forum?
U know nothing about tennis.

Go ahead, make your day Davie.

Hardly wow, this isn't the first time Jubbahey has crossed the line and pushed it.

Davie wrote:I know exactly where the ban button is and I haven't forgotten how to use it. You should remember that. As it is, I'm speaking at the moment with my user hat on, not my admin hat - but that can easily change if you so desire

It does not help anyone on this forum to have Mods vs. Posters. THAT is the bane of any forum.

Both have an interest in continuity of the forum.

I would suggest a bit more reason rather than emotion to prevail.

Guys chill.

Wow,

Admin go everywhere on the board because we are Admin and look after the whole site. We don't have to know anything about the particular sport.
Remember we are just ordinary members like yourself who have been on 606 for years.

As I said Jubba, it can be arranged.

I do resent the accusation that I know nothing of the game though. Though I joined here initially for the golf section, I take an active interest in the rugby and tennis forums as I played both as a teenager. I was never much good at rugby though I adored the game, but I played tennis to near-county standard (sadly never higher).

Now I'll admit that was almost 35 years ago (unlike you I have no problem showing my real age in my profile) but I have maintained a keen interest in the game ever since then

So not only, as YI says, do I monitor all sections of the forum to try to ensure smooth running, I also have my own favourite sports and tennis is one of them

If that is OK with Jubba anyway

Davie wrote:If you really find it that boring here we can always help you find the way out

No, thats a misinterpretation.
I find Tenez's repetitive posts boring, not the forum - dont twist my words.

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a tennis forum or are we in a school classroom!

Dave - 606 started to fall apart when amazing contributors like AIR and Duggieto (hope I got the spelling right) gave up because of too much WAM from one particular poster. You seem confident with this forum but just be careful not to turn off the non-posters/casual viewers who are equally important.

I doubt Nadal, Murray, Federer, Djokovic or any other professional sportsman will ever read what is being said about them on forums such as this.

And if they did - does anyone think they would care? I can't see Rafael Nadal sitting back in his mansion, biting his latest grand slam trophy, counting his millions of pounds, logging onto here and thinking "hmm some nerds on a forum think I am a cheat, I'll call my lawyer...."

I'mnogt sure RN has a mansion

graf_the_greatest wrote:The moderators/admin team always seem to have an answer. Let's just end this 'topic' as we're not going to win it. Whether a person or group of people are right or wrong the moderators can just simply ban us on a whim.

We can't fight that but what will be left is an anodyne 'one flew over the cuckoo's nest' forum.

Shhh....Nurse Ratchett's appraching...

Very well said, GtG.

Davie,

It will take me 1/2 a day to put something like this in one of my servers and host it for free, but it takes a while to build some credibility and an audience to use and utilize what is provided.

with age comes wisdom, with powers comes responsibility and all that.


i reiterate what i said in one of my other post, dont post/participate on any thread as a moderator/admin participate as an user

Take action as an admin/moderator.

Goes back to what GTG had said

This is getting beyond a joke now.

Guys look, you are free to express an opinion on this forum. If you are making allegations, don't moan if people challenge and ask for evidence in your claims. Making empty allegations and claims is pointless. Your wasting your own time as well that of the posters who try to be constructive in posting and voicing opinions and debating.

Mods and Admins are posters too. They go beyond that to ensure that debating is done in the most harmonious way possible.

The posters should also take some responsibility if debates go beyond the topics being discussed. You are adults for crying out loud. Try acting like them from time to time.

What kind of proof is acceptable ?

Quotes from parties involved or eye witness accounts. If there are 'official' documentations of investigations into such issues would be great. Is that too much to ask?

How would you certify an eye witness account?

do i have take a picture and show some hidden audio record?

Someone that could back your claim?

So is it fair to assume that all of a sudden you are present at situations that you post about?

assumptions are the mother of all .. so to speak.

i raised my opinion and started a debate, dont ask me proof for all the thing post here.

if so make it pretty clear and clean cut on your terms and conditions that all post which does not have proof behind it will be deleted and removed.

is that not fair to ask?

Why can't people ask for proof behind an allegation?

why should you?

why not any other poster in this forum?

was there a proof given to a poster alleging that federer is mentally weak because he lost a quarter finals against Tsonga?

parthi,

You are confusing opinion with fact.
Opinions do not require proof for obvious reasons.

If you are stating facts, back it up with a source or a link.

Simples.

If you read the topic 'Mental toughness in question' That isn't a statement of fact but a question for people to comment on.

So you make an allegation and I should just accept that and say well I never knew that? Back it up. Don't think that making throw away allegations in any way is sensible.

I have always asked anyone making allegations for proof if it is something unfounded. Don't take it personally.

If I made allegations I would back them up.

2 against one now ?? interesting

on which post did i say that it as a fact, i raised an opinion and i was not the only one who said that.

parthi

Its not 2 against 1. I was just adding a point.

Re: Wimbledon Day 8
by parthi on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:59 pm

.Bad i had to post this as my first post,

winning ugly, this seems to be a tactic that nadal is very happy to play, i didnt play sport at an well an international level but i did play sport for 20 years of my life. i admire nadal for his never give up attitude but faking injury ?? thats below the belt.

this is what that never allows me to warm up to him, the line calls today were appalling.

well all that counts is the name on the cup these days. .

So the above highlighted is an opinion and not a statement of 'fact'?

legendkillar wrote: Re: Wimbledon Day 8
by parthi on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:59 pm

.Bad i had to post this as my first post,

winning ugly, this seems to be a tactic that nadal is very happy to play, i didnt play sport at an well an international level but i did play sport for 20 years of my life. i admire nadal for his never give up attitude but faking injury ?? thats below the belt.

this is what that never allows me to warm up to him, the line calls today were appalling.

well all that counts is the name on the cup these days. .

So the above highlighted is an opinion and not a statement of 'fact'?

In my opinion, Nadal faked his injury.

This thread like a few other Rafa related ones is developing into an Isner v Mahut contest circa 2010.

Only difference is I don't think there is going to be a winner

So you want to stand corrected?

Convenient.

He did fake his injury,

dont have to go so far as the scan and all that happened later look at how he payed the second set and the way he moved.

i can say i have an headache and get a prescription but that does not mean i have an headache.

you cant prove that i dont have one because i took my medication.

getting an injection and a scan after does not mean that i didnt fake it