Tiger Woods, no class act

How discusting can TW be, his antics of spitting whilst walking down the 12th fairway and then again spitting directly onto the green whilst marking his ball is nothing short of disgraceful and disrespectful, imagine being the next player on the green and having to putt through this classless persons spit. The european tour should send out a clear message to all players by fining TW heavy and banning him for a period of time, for years now this guy has been seen spitting his way around courses,what example is he setting youngsters and the viewing public,golf does not need TW nor his antics. :yellow card:

at least he was dressed properly. :friend:

Sorry. OTT I think. Spitting is not something I'd condone personally, but reaction to spitting can be culturally quite varied. Don't think the Chinese mind one bit. Here, we're so dumb that it's considered beyond the pale to spit on someone in a football match but "part of the game" to chop someone's legs out in a potentially career-threatening tackle. Duh.

If you're simply a TW hater, just come out and say it.

We used to have the Monty bashers, I think they have changed to TW bashers.

I still think he will be the golfer they all have to beat in the Majors this year.
:shooter:

Totally agree Dazzler. You can't knock him for his golfing abilities but as a person he's a low life.
A question to the pro Woods supporters. Why do you think he is immune to criticism?

4putt wrote:Totally agree Dazzler. You can't knock him for his golfing abilities but as a person he's a low life.
A question to the pro Woods supporters. Why do you think he is immune to criticism?

I've always been a TW fan and think he's been great for the game. BUT I've said on here recently that the longer this slump in form goes on, the more fans he loses because of his on course antics. We were willing to discount his personal troubles because of his golf, but the petulance, arrogance, tantrums are now the only thing golfers are seeing, so his fan-base will dwindle. I'm sick of watching the car crash that is TW and yet again yesterday we saw the way he treated the fans, he blanked them whilst being escorted from the scorers hut by a falanx of minders. Half hour before that we saw Lee Westwood spend an age signing anything and speaking to anyone, which was brilliant. The new World No1 is a big man and a dam site better man than the former World no1.

4Putt - I don't think Woods should be immune from criticism but I do think we tend to get a lot of over the top remarks which frustrate.

Yes, spitting is a habit that preferrably should be cut out, the tour picked up the incident and are going to consider whether to apply a penalty.

But it goes over the top, suggestion of 'banning him for a period of time' just seems daft when I would imagine with temps in the middle east the spit would have gone before the next group hit the green. Also a period of time suggests in my eyes at least a month as Woods is selective on comps anyway...so that would be 1/3rd of the ban a cheat received.

Similarly, comments that he is a 'low life' seem OTT in my opinion...I won't condone what he did sleeping around as he was married at the time so quite simply it shouldn't be done but that's his mistake he's paid for by losing his wife. However, even with that two year period I think I personally wouldn't describe a low life as someone who works hard, appears to be courteous to his fellow players (none of them ever seem to mind playing with Woods, likewise Poulter and Westwood take the mick a little on twitter) and fans (even not always when on the course which is fair enough as he's trying to play golf) and has a charity foundation to provide assistance to youngsters to achieve their potential.

Not sure I'd want to be picking my ball up after it had rolled through the spit of such a legendary Lothario, or anyone for that matter. Spitting is not just a cultural issue (saying Tiger has no class tends to position it as that), it's a health issue and whilst the risk of transmission might be minimal it's still there when it doesn't need to be.

If we are going down the health issue route, then don't you think the majority of chemicals applied to greens is likely to be more of a concern, or bird faeces as another example than the possibility that your ball could roll through someone elses spit (so presumably close together), that on the ball continuing to roll it remains on there, that you then pick it up so it's on your hands and from that a health risk occurs. Presumably we are campaigning against green keepers that only a lawnmower and natural sunshine can be used to maintain greens?

Once again, I stress that I'm not saying spitting is correct, I don't believe it is so the tour having a word makes sense. But the quote below for me goes back to my point of being over the top. I'd be surprised if there was a single case on record of a golfer becoming ill in that way.

Great player he might be, class act he certainly isn't..... end of! Do you think you would ever have seen the old time and modern greats behaving the way he does on the course? I think not! I'm sorry but gobbing all over the place might be acceptable behaviour on the football pitch, but it isn't acceptable on the golf course, along with all the other petulant histrionics, such as loud cursing, club slamming and blanking spectators - it just completely lacks class and humility imho :shooter: And by the way, when he first started Woods was a breath of fresh air for golf and I used to enjoy watching him play so I am not one of those 'TW Haters' that some of you like to point the finger at. I just believe that no one person is bigger than the game of golf and it is high time poor behaviour is punished :yellow card:

Don't understand why people are getting on Tiger's case so much. It's not as if he's the only one. The TV have a lot to answer for, by continually focusing on him when he isn't close to being the best in the world any more.

If he were still the old Tiger, dominating the game, then I could maybe understand it more, but he's not. He's just another pro out there.

It's not just Tiger and though we don't like spitting must accept it is more acceptable elsewhere. I learned this at a business meeting in China - top man had a spitoon by his chair!!
At least Tiger doesn't chew baccy and produce the flow of some PGA tour members.
Oh and Ewen Murray - talk to Tiger direct not us. You have the opportunity, just do it!!!

Woods has been fined for breaching European Tour code of conduct.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-1356858/Tiger-Woods-fined-spitting-green-Dubai-Desert-Classic.html

SportsFanatic wrote:If we are going down the health issue route, then don't you think the majority of chemicals applied to greens is likely to be more of a concern, or bird faeces as another example than the possibility that your ball could roll through someone elses spit (so presumably close together), that on the ball continuing to roll it remains on there, that you then pick it up so it's on your hands and from that a health risk occurs. Presumably we are campaigning against green keepers that only a lawnmower and natural sunshine can be used to maintain greens?

Once again, I stress that I'm not saying spitting is correct, I don't believe it is so the tour having a word makes sense. But the quote below for me goes back to my point of being over the top. I'd be surprised if there was a single case on record of a golfer becoming ill in that way.

They are issues, however chemicals are necessary and short of killing all birds it's a natural hazard...but his is easy for him to solve.. stop spitting. You confused the opportunity to fix one issue with the problem of fixing them all.

Well it looks like Tiger's stock is falling in the States now, as he was caught on camera swearing loudly when being beaten by TB last night. In fairness LW was also overheard doing the same, and swearing isn't actually a hanging offence.

Looks like he'll be dropping to No8 this week

Was he swearing loudly enough to be overheard by people more than 5 or 6 yards away? If not then the only reason it was heard is that the tv people like to shove cameras and mikes up his bum in the hope of getting something like this.

I blame the coverage rather than the player.


If however it was a loud statement that could have been heard by the gallery... fined.

Lets hope tiger doesn't start posting on here, they don't exactly tolerate swearing.

McLaren wrote:Lets hope tiger doesn't start posting on here, they don't exactly tolerate swearing.

It would be a first being called a Kumquat by Tiger :laugh1: OK Kumquat if you want, but I meant 'ladies purse' :laugh1:

People are finding any excuse to get on his back now. It's turning in to a bit of a witch hunt.

While I think swearing is uncalled for, it's not as if he's the only one who does it, so it's unfair to single him out.

I noticed Laird slam his club into the ground after a mediocre shot. Had it been Tiger I'm sure it would have been a hot topic in here.

Trouble is Woods set himself up as a model of perfection - both on the course and off it (the ideal husband and father :doh1: ) so when the fall comes, it comes harder for him than for anyone else. If he had been a little more human from the start, and shown that he had his faults like everyone else, none of this would have happened.

Glas to see some of the old 606 smilies are back!

Now slipping even further down; not only the world rankings, but now people see him as he truly is. A self-centred man who thought he was above the law.

SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:A self-centred man who thought he was above the law.

I wasn't aware he'd actually broken any laws! Apart from damaging a fire hydrant perhaps

Davie wrote:

SetupDeterminesTheMotion wrote:A self-centred man who thought he was above the law.

I wasn't aware he'd actually broken any laws! Apart from damaging a fire hydrant perhaps

Adultery is illegal in a fair number of US states. Particularly those with a strong history of god-bothering.