Does the instability at the RFU put RWC 2015 in jeopardy?

With the meltdown of competency in the boardroom, you have to ask how much time will the RFU have to sort out their squabble before the IRB RWC committee have to reconsider stuff?

The playing side will be able to function for the foreseeable future, but it essential (even from this far out) that the planning and administrative structures are in place.

We can't just muddle through so the IRB will have to be satisfied that order has been restored fairly pronto.

If it's not sorted and settled in twelve months could France be approached to re-host the competition?

No

Definitely. We can expect an announcement any day now.

Fancy a pint, Portnoy?

BATH_BTGOG wrote:No

No. That's it?

The host nation doesn't need a functioning administration?

It's a good job England is not in a seismically active geological region.

Possibly Portnoy. Certainly something that worth considering. However it would need to affect the finances in order for the World Cup to be at risk. Money talks.

The administrative side of the RFU is still functioning. Just because "the Old Farts" are in meltdown doesn't mean the actual infrastructure is in any danger.

Perhaps this chicken might even function better without it's head for a while?

Have to believe that at the very least the IRB are closely monitoring situation - it can't help that Martyn Thomas has been left in charge after his recent performance, in particular his behaviour towards Blackett

Lads there is no way in hell the world cup will be move.
Financial its not feasible, IRB are the ones who manage the world cup as a whole.

The administration bit has already been completed by the RFU in getting the world cup to england in the first place.

Job done end of another pointless debate from a man who has 50 years of rugby experience

Carpe Diem,
I think you are right. The infrastructure of the RFU is very strong. So, I would expect no short term problems. The chicken might have been blind, deaf, and dumb for quite a while, so going headless will not have an immediate impact. But, the top must be sorted. Not just for the RWC2015, but for the betterment of the sport in England from the bottom to the top.

caoimhincentre wrote:Lads there is no way in hell the world cup will be move.
Financial its not feasible, IRB are the ones who manage the world cup as a whole.

The administration bit has already been completed by the RFU in getting the world cup to england in the first place.

Job done end of another pointless debate from a man who has 50 years of rugby experience

Mexico took over the host job in the footy WC in 1986 because of a Brazilian meltdown.

And London had to forgo a World Athletics Championship a decade or two ago (I can't remember when).

There is previous in controlling bodies taking late action.

"Job done end of another pointless debate from a man who has 50 years of rugby experience" asks the obvious question 'why bother joining in then?'

Its not going to happen. Everything is in place. England has the infrastructure in place already.

caoimhincentre wrote:Its not going to happen. Everything is in place. England has the infrastructure in place already.

The plans are in place. The infrastructure is in place.

What is not is a symbol of leadership.

You honestly don't understand the intricacies of organisations do you?

Administrations can self-perpetuate routine work. But at some point excreta will collide with the extractor.

And that needs an organised group of decision makers. And currently the RFU ain't got one.

Portnoy wrote:

caoimhincentre wrote:Its not going to happen. Everything is in place. England has the infrastructure in place already.

The plans are in place. The infrastructure is in place.

What is not is a symbol of leadership.

You honestly don't understand the intricacies of organisations do you?

Administrations can self-perpetuate routine work. But at some point excreta will collide with the extractor.

And that needs an organised group of decision makers. And currently the RFU ain't got one.

You honestly don't understand how the world cup is run.

It is run by the IRB NOT the RFU.

The RFU's job is to win the world cup bid for England which they have done.
The RFU have no more say in what will happen in the world cup in 2015.

As others have said plans have already been made. However what would hold things up would be any changes or new decisions that need approval. And there will be lots of those. So yes there may be some gliches. If this chaos goes on for long there may be serious problems. It depends on how much responsibility will be delegated and how efficient the lower levels of administration are.

R5 just reported that Francis Baron just raised this very question.

are you indeed Fancis baron

Mexico took over the host job in the footy WC in 1986 because of a Brazilian meltdown.

Wasn't Columbia who were due to host it and withdrew because the government couldn't afford to meet FIFA's terms? That is slightly different than what largely seems to be the usual ongoing stupidty of the RFU - England has hosted one rugby WC with similar idiots in charge.

And London had to forgo a World Athletics Championship a decade or two ago (I can't remember when).

Doesn't ring a bell - you really need to supply the actual reason otherwise it isn't any use telling us this. You might as well bring up that flights were cancelled because of the Icelandic volcano a year or two ago.

I think the chances of the IRB stepping in to take the WC somewhere else are very, very low. I'm not so enamoured with Baron as to wonder if he's trying to make things sound bad so that his own time in charge seems much better.

If they believe that this current hiccup with RFU would cause any dramatic issue resulting in a impaired world cup 4 years from now, then they're being alarmists and overly dramatic. There will be no problem by the end of the this World Cup. Mark my words.

Umm whats the word I am looking for.

Thats it NO, No it won't affect it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/14152623.stm

The RFU should immediately hand the tournament back to Japan, from whom they stole it mercilessly to the game's detriment. Oh no, wait that was the RFUs argument about NZ. I was confused.

I think in the spirit of international brotherhood we should give it to Qatar. Give em some practice before the footy world cup comes along.