England vs India 3rd Test Debate

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This is the official thread to discuss the 3rd Test between England and India to be played at Edgbaston.

Toss:England won the toss and chose to field first

Indian line up

Virender Sehwag
Gautam Gambhir
Rahul Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar
VVS Laxman
Suresh Raina
MS Dhoni(c & wk)
Amit Mishra
Praveen Kumar
Ishant Sharma
S Sreesanth

England Line up

Andrew Strauss(c)
Alastair Cook
Ian Bell
Kevin Pietersen
Eoin Morgan
Ravi Bopara
Matt Prior(wk)
Tim Bresnan
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
James Anderson


All the best to both the teams

Cheers

Will Anderson get his 5fer?

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Because Dhoni and Kumar are under no pressure to save the game. If Dhoni or Kumar slogs a top edge and get out first ball, the game's gone anyway.

yeah definitely. If they played that way when chasing a total properly they'd be throwing the game away with an early out probably.

Exactly. If they get out first ball slogging with India needing 40 to win or something, they get slaughtered

eirebilly wrote:I dont feel for him trebbs. He bigs himself up more than any other player in the England squad and is just not good enough.

yeah he's never been able to play at the standard required against good sides in tests has he.

It'll be fun to see Dhoni bat when the pressure is really on. Just won't be possible to whack about an play t20 like this.

Jimmy just can't get Dhoni off strike so I think he'll have to settle for 4 wickets...Dhoni has played really well.

Can't see Sreesanth surviving 6 balls from Broad

Sreesanth ducks a straight one..

ouch caught that in the chest.

Ouch ! I felt that from here

And now he hits a four ! Credit to Sreesanth ... ready to duck now ?

Anderson could well have another chance to get his 5fer.

On the train back from a week away with the girlfriend... Wow! Come on England.

Got it all saved on the sky box,.


We are the champions etc...

In fact he doesn't, Bresnan into the attack.

trebellbobaggins wrote:

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:Because Dhoni and Kumar are under no pressure to save the game. If Dhoni or Kumar slogs a top edge and get out first ball, the game's gone anyway.

yeah definitely. If they played that way when chasing a total properly they'd be throwing the game away with an early out probably.

I didn't mean hitting out in the way that Kumar has. I meant more the way Dhoni has approached his innings in a positive manner (albeit mostly out of necessity). He's played some big shots, yes, but has also accumulated runs sensibly and generally been more positive.

I was just wondering, if he can do that, being arguably one of the lesser talents in India's batting lineup, then why have the "big" names failed so often this series? Is it purely because they've been up against fresher bowlers using newer balls? Surely top order batsmen are supposed to be able to cope with those?

what a frustrating period.

India will not just hand this series to England without a serious fight.

Dhoni now 70 off 75 balls. Another gutsy, if futile, innings.

Wonder if Sreesanth can hang around long enough for him to get a ton?

i think you might be right Wolfie. Things have got easier by the time he comes in and he's played really well.

See Broads face there.. KP could not even bothered to chase that 4 down



If these manage something special and get them a lead now he might regret that.

Big "if" of course.

All over, England are number 1 !!!!

I wouldn't call it a "serious" fight , trebs

More some happy hitting at the end ...like old fashioned tailenders used to do

Enjoyable to watch in a way There it is !

We are the CHAMPIONS

And Bres chips in, getting Sreesanth!

England win by an innings and 242 runs!

ENGLAND ARE THE NO.1 RANKED TEST TEAM!!!

trebellbobaggins wrote: See Broads face there.. KP could not even bothered to chase that 4 down



If these manage something special and get them a lead now he might regret that.

Big "if" of course.

It was to put Sreesanth back on strike, wasn't being lazy.

Cracking stuff from Eng.

Well done on beating the best team in the world and some of the best batsmen ever.

Even all the guys returning did not save India. Glad we did it no as next couple of weeks could be very wet and last test might not get finished.

The reign of number 1 begins!

Well done England ... you can go watch those Apes now trebs

Cheers Alfie. Good timing that.

I'll miss the end of the rugby but Roland is doing his usual blowing eng out of that anyway so happy to miss it (mind you they are throwing it away turning down tons of kicks).

Looking at the schedule there.. i'm sure India will win the ODI series comfortably.

They've shown they are very good in that form.
Interesting fourth test then.. India must not lose or SA will pass them in the rankings.

Congrats to Trebs, Billy...and all the England fans on the maaarvellous series so far.

England have played superb cricket for the last couple of years and are a well deserved No. 1.

Cheers Linebreaker :-)

I don't think i could have ever imagined a year in which England could beat SL, Aussie and India on their way to topping the table. So this is what it feels like then. something you know well

Enjoy the last Test and the ODIs, trebs.

Your double reverse jinxes paid off mate!

Yes, it's a good feeling for sure... that feeling of every other team wanting to see your downfall.

If England continue playing like this, we could be top for a very long time.

Thanks for those thoughts Linebreaker ...

Now we can turn our attention to Australia's attempt to move back up the ladder via success in Sri Lanka ...

(And of course the Oval Test where England will look for the whitewash )

Liam_Main wrote:If England continue playing like this, we could be top for a very long time.

At least a few years I would say.

The thing is, there will be reactions from other teams to emulate this England side (as happens in other sports) and it's easier said than done to remain on the top of the heap.

I honestly thought (before the Indian injuries) this would be a nail-biting, very closely fought series... something like 2-1 either way, one draw. To see India's fall from grace in this fashion has been a big surprise to witness. England will have a break from tests for a while (after the 4th Test) before their next tour while SA, India, NZ and Oz all have a relatively packed schedule. They'll have to ensure they don't get too ahead of themselves, remain confident but not take their current status for granted when they tour next. I mean... just look at what happened to Oz and India during the last few years. Australia had 142 points... now 100. India around 130... now 118? or something.

Maybe the problem was Indian team was not psyched up enough. The players they actually sent were:

ReLax Man
Instant Karma
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz here
etc, etc

Captained by Knee

Victims of their own legendary propaganda perhaps?

Linebreaker wrote:Congrats to Trebs, Billy...and all the England fans on the maaarvellous series so far.

England have played superb cricket for the last couple of years and are a well deserved No. 1.

Quite right I feel I've played my part.

Will be back in time for the Oval test , depending on the wicket will england play the same old side or try a different strategy if the pitch is flat and we need more bowlers.

We are too good for mickey mouse sides like Sri Lanka and India. Their seamers are barely medium paced and their spinners are crap.

Linebreaker wrote:Enjoy the last Test and the ODIs, trebs.

Your double reverse jinxes paid off mate!

Yes, it's a good feeling for sure... that feeling of every other team wanting to see your downfall.

i kind of gave up this test. I was getting too silly with it.

india have been awful

ENGLAND HAVE BEEN QUALITY COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!