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Post by Liam_Main Wed 17 Aug 2011, 7:10 pm

First topic message reminder :

England line-up:

1) Andrew Strauss (C)
2) Alistair Cook
3) Ian Bell
4) Kevin Pietersen
5) Eoin Morgan
6) Ravi Bopara
7) Matt Prior (WK)
8) Tim Bresnan
9) Stuart Broad
10) Graeme Swann
11) James Anderson

India line up:

1) Gautam Gambhir
2) Virender Sehwag
3) Rahul Dravid
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) VVS Laxman
6) Suresh Raina
7) MS Dhoni (C,WK)
8) Amit Mishra
9) Ishant Sharma
10) Sreesanth
11) RP Singh


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Post by hodge Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:37 pm

Can India survive that long though, go past these 2, if Gambhir can't bat India's tail hasn't lasted long this series

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Post by hodge Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:39 pm

Raina laughing

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:40 pm

England still need to take 3 wickets for me to start feeling overally confident that they can win this. Dhoni, Raina and Gambhir can hang around as well. Draw is still the most forseable outcome in my eyes.


Raina gone.... reassesing views
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Post by Carrotdude Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:41 pm

Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:42 pm

Raina pair ! Swann on the charge ... Yahoo

Fat lady warming up ?

Dhoni has to hit out now and try to get a lead , but England really are poised now guinness

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Post by Fists of Fury Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:43 pm

Carrotdude wrote:Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

Can't review lbw's, mate.

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:44 pm

Dammit!

I leave for a while and come back to miss all the drama! mad

Crikey - Mishra made it all the way to 84. Thats a heck of a knock for a lower-order batsman.

Disappointed to see Sach didn't get his ton but it seems he was riding his luck today, until it finally ran out. Still feel for him - just 9 shy of his 100th hundred.

Whoa - as I type this Raina is given out lbw to Swann who claims his 4th victim of the innings. What price another Michelle for him?

The big lass is warming up her vocal chords. Can't see much resistance coming from the remaining Indian batting.
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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:44 pm

Sreesanth and RP Singh won't hold up too much resistance, I think these two really have to dig in now. Sharma is a decent blocker, but injured and facing a new ball I wouldn't pin too much hope on him either.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:44 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:
Carrotdude wrote:Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

Can't review lbw's, mate.

Pretty sure he meant it tongue in cheek
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Post by Carrotdude Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:47 pm

eirebilly wrote:
Fists of Fury wrote:
Carrotdude wrote:Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

Can't review lbw's, mate.

Pretty sure he meant it tongue in cheek

Yeah sorry I forget that sarcasm doesn't always translate very well to forums Smile

Surely there has been enough evidence to prove to the BCCI that the review system is a good thing?

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:53 pm

Was it really the best decision to take the new ball immediately?
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:54 pm

Looks very much like a small lead will be made for India now....so excited by this game!
England have to watch every run as well as pressing for wickets

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:55 pm

Carrotdude wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
Fists of Fury wrote:
Carrotdude wrote:Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

Can't review lbw's, mate.

Pretty sure he meant it tongue in cheek

Yeah sorry I forget that sarcasm doesn't always translate very well to forums Smile

Surely there has been enough evidence to prove to the BCCI that the review system is a good thing?

Yeah then Tendulkar wouldnt have been so upset about being given in the 90's he wouldve gone much earlier.

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Post by Carrotdude Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:56 pm

True....

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 2:57 pm

It gives Swann a bit of a rest and even the spinners prefer the newer ball. I think tea will be taken at 16:10, so there's over an hour to go and Swann isn't finished for this session yet, fired up, rested up and with a harder ball in his hand.

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:02 pm

Dhoni edges Broad to Swann at second slip. Start the car.

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Post by Carrotdude Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:03 pm

Dhoni gone to Broad, bad shot really, England well on top and sniffing victory.

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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:03 pm

Broad gets Dhoni Yahoo

Matter of time now ...

How quickly a game can change Smile

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:04 pm

Now i am feeling confident that India wont last. Almost tempted to open a beer in celebration as i am free tomorrow Wink
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:05 pm

Captians innings there, or at least a capatins innings that suums upo this India side for the majority of the series.

Wooop anotehr wicket ...maybe the lead wont happen after all.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

It now doent look as if India will get to 300 runs.
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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

Oy!

Dhoni gone right after the drinks break! Edging a Broad delivery and Swann taking an easy slip catch.

Just the fragile Gambhir left of the recognised batsmen. Surely can't be long now, although I'm sure RP will give it some welly.
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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:07 pm

And another one!

Over by tea now...

And Billy? I reckon the new ball was a good decision Smile

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:08 pm

"5-7 in a little over 8 overs." I said 1 might bring 2 or 3, but this has been a special half-hour or so for England.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:09 pm

From 262-3 to 269-8. Thats an old England style collapse.
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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:09 pm

Oh dear. RP Swingh has a swipe and nicks his third ball straight to Prior. India now 269-8.

An innings victory looms for England...just 2 wickets from a 4-0 series win.
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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:09 pm

Broad bowled pretty well earlier , without reward.

Getting some results now though ... well bowled clap

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:09 pm

Seems it was alfie.... What do i know anyways Very Happy
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Post by Stellar Key Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:11 pm

Timed this perfectly . Missed all that dull batting stuff and come back to see India on their knees and on the way out.

Who said england needed five bowlers Wink

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:12 pm

Nasty bounce from Anderson, bounces off the top of Gambhir's bat and hits him on the helmet. Ruthless from England.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:13 pm

Sharmas carrying an injury that wont help him ...if england dont do it form here they should get the Vaas catas-trophy awarded to them

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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:13 pm

It has been quite a collapse hasn't it ?

Have to say I'm not really surprised - there were a lot of near misses before the big stand was broken , and now the wheel of fortune has turned with a vengeance.
Was always a good chance there would be a landslide once the first pebble was dislodged...

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:13 pm

Stellar Key wrote: Timed this perfectly . Missed all that dull batting stuff and come back to see India on their knees and on the way out.

Who said england needed five bowlers Wink

Not Ravi Boparas agent thats for sure.

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Post by hodge Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:14 pm

eirebilly wrote:From 262-3 to 269-8. Thats an old England style collapse.

sounds like the team i play in for a batting collapse

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:15 pm

hodge wrote:
eirebilly wrote:From 262-3 to 269-8. Thats an old England style collapse.

sounds like the team i play in for a batting collapse

You play for Australia?

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:15 pm

Just totally unrecogniseable from India and there was me thinking that they would edge the series 2-1 Shocked
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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:20 pm

Swann saves his best for the last day of the last test! He's been phenomenal today, he's taken 4-100 but he had Tendulkar dropped twice, stumped once and lbw once.

Might have his 5-for, Sharma reviewing a bat-pad.

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Post by Fists of Fury Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:21 pm

Carrotdude wrote:
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Carrotdude wrote:Inside edge, should have reviewed it..... Very Happy

Can't review lbw's, mate.

Pretty sure he meant it tongue in cheek

Yeah sorry I forget that sarcasm doesn't always translate very well to forums Smile

Surely there has been enough evidence to prove to the BCCI that the review system is a good thing?

Haha sorry mate, wasn't too sure if you were being sarcastic.

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:22 pm

Decent lb shout against Sharma? Wink

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:23 pm

India will desperately want to get these 17 runs. They will not want to fall to another innings loss.
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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:25 pm

Tendulkar and Mishra certainly made England work ... but getting the two of them in a couple of balls induced the old panic reflex ... and then Raina going so quickly (unlucky with the decision , but did anyone think he was going to make double figures?)
Dhoni swiped badly , but he had to have a go really...

The others are injured, rabbits, or both...

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Post by Guest Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:26 pm

lol mishra is secretly a batsman and raina a bowler :p

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Post by Guest Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:28 pm

swanny has 5for!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:28 pm

Gambhir now Gamb-backinthere

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:29 pm

I know its great and all that but i do feel a bit sad for India.

5 fer for Swann clap
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Post by alfie Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:30 pm

9 out now and Swanny has his Michelle Smile

Innings win is on ... and I'll even get a decent night's sleep Very Happy

Very nice of England to wrap it up so speedily ... thumbsup

You can have that beer now , Billy

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come on england Very Happy

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Post by robbo277 Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:32 pm

I don't think India are that bad a team. They don't have enough squad depth to compete when they have a couple of injuries. England got on top and stayed on top, they just ground India into the dirt. I expect India to come back fighting in the ODI series, hopefully that will be a cracking contest.

But for now, we are the World's Number 1 Test team, on the verge of whitewashing the former Number 1 team 4-0.

India have only taken 10 wickets in an innings twice in this series, and one of those times we made 544 in 120 overs. There bowling hasn't been there, and their batsman have struggled to get on top of this England bowling.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:32 pm

Already got the first beer in alfie Wink
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Post by Guest Mon 22 Aug 2011, 3:33 pm

player of the series has to be broad!

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