Ireland v Australia - Live Match thread.

by Gibson Sat 17 Sep - 3:12

First topic message reminder :

After 4 years of waiting, team building and anguish. This game has finally come. A key game to decide who takes control of their own destiny, in this Rugby World Cup Pool and beyond.

Australia and Ireland have History in this comp. A long and close one. History says, Australia beat Ireland every time in this Cup. Albeit twice by 1 point.
Can Ireland beat a team, who I personally believe are the best team in the World right now? I doubt it. They are 2 years ahead of us in their squad development.
But, this Irish team has not performed for an age. Is this the game when Ireland wake up and show Kidney's winning hand? Have we been holding back for this one? I hope so.
Otherwise, Australia will run rough-shod over us and around us.

We are due a huge performance. And it helps our psyche that we are underdogs. A term I normally despise and refuse to accept, but it's true in this case.

For your delectation and to refresh the memory banks:

1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftwqtYBpASs.

1991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvhHy6MFfi4

2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPOqXJbkPVs

Update:.
Pocock is out. Ioane is out. The odds have been altered drastically.
O' Brien is up against a rookie. Ben McCalman. A man even less experienced than him at 7. This is the winning and losing of this game in my opinion. The breakdown. An area Oz excel at. They bullied NZ there. Pocock did McCaw there. Not usual.

Can Ireland compete with the Oz backrow, with Ferris, O' Brien and Heaslip on our side? Can we stop and suppress the opportunities for Genia to do his thing and negate their brilliant back line? That possibility has now been increased, with the loss of the brilliant Pocock. How much so, we don't know yet. But, this will buy Ireland extra time and space to do their voodoo. If, in fact, they have it in them to do so. After a mediocre showing in 5 games leading up to it.

For Ireland: Kearney is back. Healy is Back. Sean O Brien is back. Key players, who were part of a side that demolished an English team chasing the SLAM.
It was the last time Ireland played to their full potential. All games since and before have been mediocre - over the last 2 years.

Aussie are a far superior, technical and cohesive side. No doubt about it. But with the loss to injury, of two key players, the pendulum has swung. It's game on.

Lineups.

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/matches/match=10935/index.html

Aussie update:
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/teams/team=38/news/newsid=2051878.html

Irish update:
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/matches/match=10935/index.html

Aussie, Irish and all other rugby-mad fans. It would be grand if we could have virtual-pints, mutual-respect, banter and craic on here. Before, during and after the game. Win lose or draw.

Enjoy the game. guinness

by Gibson Sat 17 Sep - 11:31

Mods, can we take this thread and frame it for posterity?

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Thanks to all the Home Nation & SH fans for shouting for us. Really appreciated. Thank you so much. Hug

My round.

by Cari Sat 17 Sep - 11:31

Linebreaker - commiserations. Hug

Can anyone understand Kidney there??

by welshy824 Sat 17 Sep - 11:32

you beautys ireland, get in there, cracking win, would say see you in the quarters but not jinxing 2morro!

by Cari Sat 17 Sep - 11:32

Gibbo - you forgot me! raspberry

by Dave. Sat 17 Sep - 11:32

Cari wrote:Linebreaker - commiserations.

Can anyone understand Kidney there??

Yerra!!

by Gibson Sat 17 Sep - 11:33

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by Thomond Sat 17 Sep - 11:33

Tommy Bowe made up for switching off from an OZ quick throw with sealing the match. Was gutted for Murray at the end,this time last year he was playing AIL for Garryowen a year later he is in NZ playing superbly against the 3N champions. Go on Kid!

Are people complaining the ref was biased against OZ? I thought he was ok overall. Rodders,all the fellas you gave out about were amazing! Laugh

A SinE styat for you,the winning margin in this match was the same as Munster's victory over Australia last November. 2 Irish players took part in that win while 4 OZ players were present.

by Cari Sat 17 Sep - 11:35

Thanx Gibbo Hug

Cymro - I hope you're right about Tommy's limping away there. Hopefully some a rest and an ice pack on it will sort him out. Hope D'Arcy and Healy are OK too, they seemed to have some minor injuries.

by nathan Sat 17 Sep - 11:35

one thing im not happy about is my sportguru prediction, thanks ireland!!!! :p

by Gatts Sat 17 Sep - 11:36

Cari wrote:Oh no! I just noticed there in the replay, Tommy was limping a little after that long run...I hope his dodgy knee's not playing up after that.

Don't worry, he had wood after that awesome break

by tecphobe Sat 17 Sep - 11:36

The pleasing thing other than the win is that we missed chanced the heads didnt go down we didnt blame each other we worked harder. Pocock was a big miss for the ozzys they were obliterated at the breakdown

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 11:37

Linebreaker wrote:Well done Ireland!!!

Your forwards completely smashed us and the defence was awesome! We just had no answer - and were shown a lesson Gibbo would be proud of.

Believing worked!

The Irish players were so much smarter; with and/or without Lawrence... but that's no excuse. The much better team won on the day.

A great example of teamwork... and sticking to a brilliant plan. Our guys had no clue how to counteract. No rhythm, no flow as they say. They'll have to pick themselves up and try something different next time.

...and best of luck for the next match - all Ireland fans!

Very gracious sir! thumbsup

Best of luck to your boys! guinness

Two difficult games coming up for us now but we've really put this group in our own hands now.

by Mickado Sat 17 Sep - 11:37

Healy, Best, Ferris, O'Connell, O'Brien, Drico, ROG

Fkin LEGENDS!!!

by **Pal Joey** Sat 17 Sep - 11:37

There's no use hiding Willie. Need to face reality Laugh

So it puts an end to the Ireland have never beaten Oz...overseas thing. Wink

And what a way to do it. Avoid NZ, and put them in front of us in a Semi! ...if we even get that far.

However, the voodoo of Eden Park still remains for us. Crying or Very sad

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 11:39

Thomond wrote:
Rodders,all the fellas you gave out about were amazing!

Ha ha everyone was amazing!!!! Humble pie for me and I couldn't be happier!!! Yahoo

by Thomond Sat 17 Sep - 11:40

Mickado,you left out DOC. Drico was immense for a fella who looked like he was playing with one arm. The whole team are legends,they gave everything on that pitch. Even though the OZ scrum isn't one of the best we annihalated them there.

by Gibson Sat 17 Sep - 11:40

Good man Breaker. I know ye will still make the Final. Believe. guinness

by Mickado Sat 17 Sep - 11:43

They're all Fkin LEGENDS!!!

guinness

by tecphobe Sat 17 Sep - 11:43

paulie just being interviewed sure its only a pool game weve only played to our potential need to play like that every week.

by eirebilly Sat 17 Sep - 11:45

Well i am still amazed, i didnt give Ireland a chance against the Aussies. What a win and i will be sure to partake in a few cleansing ales later Smile

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 11:45

Thomond wrote:Mickado,you left out DOC. Drico was immense for a fella who looked like he was playing with one arm. The whole team are legends,they gave everything on that pitch

+ 1 million.

Everyone was immense but the tight 5 deserve a special mention. ROG and Sexton delivered the goods too.

Bestie gets a slagging at times for his lineout throwing, and sometimes deservedly so, but in the biggest stage he delivered big time. I'm delighted for him.

Cian Healy was absolutely out of this world. Incredible performance!

by Knowsit17 Sat 17 Sep - 11:46

Can only say congratulations Ireland, a top class performance engineered by the back row of which they seem to have a conveyor belt of talent. Would say hope to meet you in the quarters but not breathing a word before tomorrow's result.

by TheGreyGhost Sat 17 Sep - 11:47

Can't believe ITV had cut to coverage of the England squad at this point. How unpredictable...

by Thomond Sat 17 Sep - 11:47

Rory Best has been brilliant the last 2 weeks,deserves to be starting and is now guaranteed his place. A big hand to Conor Murray,going into a game against the 3N champions when you're 3 ahead for your 3rd cap. He dellivered,hats off to him.

by Artful_Dodger Sat 17 Sep - 11:48

Thomond wrote:Rory Best has been brilliant the last 2 weeks,deserves to be starting and is now guaranteed his place. A big hand to Conor Murray,going into a game against the 3N champions when you're 3 ahead for your 3rd cap. He dellivered,hats off to him.

Same with Tom Court in the scrum, came on and went straight into a scrum in the Irish 22.

by WillyGilly Sat 17 Sep - 11:50

Not that it matters but who got MOM?

by Thomond Sat 17 Sep - 11:50

Healy.

by **Biltong** Sat 17 Sep - 11:51

You guys should thank your forwards, they were immense. thumbsup

by Cari Sat 17 Sep - 11:52

Anyone still watching ITV? That bungee jump looks awesome!!!

Healy was like a madman...honestly, he had that really focused look on his face at one point...

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 11:52

Emotional interview by ROG on RTE there. He's another guy that came to the fore.

I can't praise every single player highly enough. This was a squad effort and I'm including the guys who didn't play too.

We need to keep our feet on the ground because there are bigger and tougher games ahead.

The Italy game will be a real war and Russia is a banana skin too.

by Knowsit17 Sat 17 Sep - 11:53

Also, props to the phenomenal Irish support that made it over and outnumbered their Aussie counterparts. Who could have predicted that? The Wallabies looked shellshocked and the Irish fuelled with self-belief as a result.

Slightly regretful Pocock didn't make it. The battle will have been fascinating. No disrespect whatsoever to Ireland though.

by Gibson Sat 17 Sep - 11:53

Murray was superb. The boy became a man. Healy was immense. Eyes on him like a looney. They were ALL immense.

That Sexton ROG duo worked like a dream Mick. We saw it happen at Lansdowne. guinness

by **Pal Joey** Sat 17 Sep - 11:55

Thanks Cari, Dave, rodders and everyone.

It's like being whacked by bag of cement right now.

Stunned, gutted and flabbergasted! but there's still hope it all might change in the next few matches. They were completely dominated in so many aspects by the Irish forwards ; they'll have to go back to square one again.

There's also new combinations that will have to tried and tested with players getting replaced or returning from injury... which is another headache for us.

I hope they don't take the US for granted... or else they could be in for another shock! Laugh

Enjoy the celebrations!

by Thomond Sat 17 Sep - 11:56

I was calling for ROG/Sexton since the France game and nobody listened. Me and Deccie are on the same wavelength though. Comiserations to you Line,you will come back stronger from this though.

by Hound_of_Harrow Sat 17 Sep - 11:58

tecphobe wrote:paulie just being interviewed sure its only a pool game weve only played to our potential need to play like that every week.

Well done Ireland, but O'Connell makes a valid point.

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 11:59

I suppose if I was being ultra critical I'd say I was disappointed with Heaslip. He was well below par and we need him to up his game.

We got the rub off the green from the referee too. There's plenty to work on.

To keep the Australians from scoring a try is incredible though.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sat 17 Sep - 12:00

This referee is a whistle happy bell end and is spoiling a very promising match!

by tecphobe Sat 17 Sep - 12:02

TheGreyGhost wrote:Can't believe ITV had cut to coverage of the England squad at this point. How unpredictable...

haha used to it by now GG thanks to the people of aukland for there support too. My young fella is flying round the living room in his ireland kit

by **rodders** Sat 17 Sep - 12:05

Off for a run now Run

Enjoy your day everyone! Thanks for all the support to the non Irish! thumbsup

Best of luck to the other home nations for the rest of the weekend! guinness

by TrailApe Sat 17 Sep - 12:08

A scrappy trieless forward slugfest.

Bloody marvelous

Come on Ye Irish!

by Cowshot Sat 17 Sep - 12:08

Ok, It was the Irish pack wot won it.

But that double tackle and keeping the tackled player off the ground TOTALLY disrupts the Aussie quick ruck game. Laugh

What it means is that they are playing pick and drive with the opposition player - Will Gemia being carried ten yards is the most obvious example. The ultimate in aggressive defence.

by **Pal Joey** Sat 17 Sep - 12:08

Cheers Gibbo. So happy for you mate! Very Happy

Thanks too Thom! thumbsup

You guys can now sleep comfortably... knowing all those early mornings, etc were well worth it!

by tecphobe Sat 17 Sep - 12:09

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:
tecphobe wrote:paulie just being interviewed sure its only a pool game weve only played to our potential need to play like that every week.

Well done Ireland, but O'Connell makes a valid point.

Yes he did it highlights the changed mindset of irishrugby. Its something we have been criticesed for in the past one of big performances and not following it up hopefully those days are over.

by Portnoy Sat 17 Sep - 12:15

So. Why did BOD come off?

Anyone got an idea? He was holding a clean towel to his head and as I saw no sign of blood on it.

Could have been

a real blood injury
or
tactical
or
other injury
or
age.

BOD does not leave the field unnecessarily - especially when the game's in the balance.

And another question. Will Kearney get cited for the high tackle?

by WillyGilly Sat 17 Sep - 12:18

He was bleeding a touch Portnoy. Mind you the ball stayed in the scrum for the duration of his absence.

by robbo277 Sat 17 Sep - 12:21

The ref dealt with the Kearney high tackle on the pitch. I don't think it warranted more than a penalty, and that is exactly what the referee gave. No need for a citing.

by Portnoy Sat 17 Sep - 12:22

Did he come back on again?

I didn't notice him.

I sort of saw him on the touchline about ten minutes later though.

by Standulstermen Sat 17 Sep - 12:23

I phooking love Paul O'Connell. 'We have only won one pool game and we have only realised our potential in one game. We're supposed to do it every time' (or something to that effect)

What a legend.

I didnt believe they could do it (fair play to those who did) and i dont think many thought SOB and Ferris were the right fit in the backrow but they were immense. Cian Healy was simply superb and Rory Best did have his best game for Ireland.

Edit; well done Declan Kidney. He deserved that from the players

by Cowshot Sat 17 Sep - 12:28

Oh come on Portnoy - give them an hour or so before we start nitpicking Wink

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This is a huge, huge win for Ireland:

It's big monkey off the back. Not just a win, but Aussies without a single point in the second half? When did that last happen? It was a boa constrictor of a win!

In years to come, people might look back on this game as the moment when Ireland ceased to be a regional rugby power, and actually became a world rugby power. It seemed that significant to me.

by Portnoy Sat 17 Sep - 12:30

robbo277 wrote:The ref dealt with the Kearney high tackle on the pitch. I don't think it warranted more than a penalty, and that is exactly what the referee gave. No need for a citing.

I hope so. But just because the incident is dealt with on the pitch, does that mean that the citing committee doesn't get interested.

When a player gets stopped at the neck and his legs fly forward is problematical. And you'd have to ask Lawes if he agrees on the balance of recklessness.

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