Should Rob Andrew, Keep his job with the RFU?

In the light of what happend in New Zealand with the England team both on and off the field. Also what with Mike Tindall being kicked out of the ESP, but getting fined £25000 two month after it happend.

Plus their is the question of Martin Johnson's role in New Zealand. After all Rob Andrew was in New Zealand at the time, so why did he not do anything at the time? Was he (rob andrew) a casual observer, or was he in New Zealand has part of the England management? Surely the book must stop with him.

Surely Rob Andrew cannot keep his job and every body else lose theirs.

Will someone tell us what his job is...?

I don't know, ask the News of the World as i guarantee you even they hacked him to find out what the feck he does

things like this have to be considered and they take time. Also you deal with the job at hand(the RWC first)- jeas the RFU arnt going to add to trhe controivesy surronding the england team- blimey we arent NZ

So no-one knows what a director of operations does

Er. duh?

He Directs Operations

come on maesteg its obvious

As in Surgery? Is he in charge of the medical staff?

maestegmafia wrote:As in Surgery? Is he in charge of the medical staff?

Exactly

But he is more of a vet than a surgeon, his job is to chase after horses long after they have bolted and put them to sleep

His job is to undermine every manager that takes up the role whilst calmly removing himself from any blame. It´s as if he´s found a parallel world where he is manager and nobody has bothered to tell him what´s really going on.

No Kia you are wrong

that would suggest they know what is really going on and just haven't told him

i am pretty sure no fecker at the rfu has a clue what is going on

Is he not responsible for the performance of the England teams through the age groups - thus monitoring/ overseeing the academies throughout the country aswell...in general watching the health of the game of rugby actually on the pitch...not actually coaching of course....

I think in general the younger age groups do particularly well....but he is failing miserably with the senior team.

The problem is....who does he answer to....??

It would seem himself Geordie. Which is why he still has the job... whatever it is.

well if that is the case he needs to have a meeting with himself and sack himself

GeordieFalcon wrote:Is he not responsible for the performance of the England teams through the age groups - thus monitoring/ overseeing the academies throughout the country aswell...in general watching the health of the game of rugby actually on the pitch...not actually coaching of course....

I think in general the younger age groups do particularly well....but he is failing miserably with the senior team.

The problem is....who does he answer to....??

Ok

What about the panel that are the recognised hirers firers and investigators, the games board. Who are they and why do the prl have the right to encourage the governing body of English rugby, the rfu, to cow toe to them....?

maestegmafia wrote:Who are they and why do the prl have the right to encourage the governing body of English rugby, the rfu, to cow toe to them....?

Kowtow? Education standards these days...

Cow toe, is that the same as a camel toe?

No - get rid of him.

He's an oxygen thief.

Just find Rob Andrew a very slimey character from all his interviews. Just speaks in his monotonous way that bores everyone, saying the usual generalistic tripe.. For example 'We're building a team for the future', 'Its a learning curve', etc etc.. I dont actually hear anything in what he says that actually relates to rugby, most of what he says could relate to anything.

He is the model of self preservation, the main job he was brought in for originally was to sort out the EPS agreement between country and clubs. His job was done, now he just sticks around taking credit for Englands achievements and blaming the coach for any failures..

He'll go far I think, probably head of the RFU one day.

Gatts wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:As in Surgery? Is he in charge of the medical staff?

Exactly

But he is more of a vet than a surgeon, his job is to chase after horses long after they have bolted and put them to sleep

More of a proctologist, if you ask me.

Should he keep his job? Erm, well, no.

Cow toe is hoof isn´t it? I think Rob Andrew needs to be hoofed. Now that MJ has gone will he undermine the next manager. If performances go against England, you can bet on it.

Woodward for all his obvious faults had belief and drive and a clear strategy. Andrew seems to be a rugby version of Alistair Campbell, preferring to speak in waffle, empty rhetoric and snide opportunism. If he were a dish, he´d be a plate of waffles with some half-baked ideas as a side and lashings of vinegar and a dash of poison.

he has categorically stated that he's not resigning.

None of us can comment because none o fus know what he does

No frankly. If Jonno has fallen on his sword so should Andrew. Interesting at the press conference that Andrew stated the England team is only about 20% of his job. What else there is in terms of elite rugby apart from the international team and its performance?

He oversaw Jonno therefore has to take some responsibility.

he says his role is


'the department and the structure of the professional game not just the playing side of things, that smy role in this

my job is to run the department not just the playing side of things"

thank feck fo rthat...and if his role is as described then he is almost untouchable even though the 'department' is in sh1t order

the department, what is this Are You Being Served?

The guy is a sleaze and is now backing away from his horse in the way all good politicos do when that horse is lame

I would love to know what he said in the PC after MJ, anyone know?

didnt realise you knew andrews so well to call him a sleeze or what his job was/is.

Seriuolsy what is your problem- jealousy, that he is english- what has it got to do with you gatts- why the big problem with so many english rugby dudes!

cant you just worry about your own life and the actuall game of rugby- why this girlie facination on what everyone is like at home or out and about- Do you read hello and ok magazines?

did he really say all that?

blimey, he is as ignorant as you oakey.

Rob Andrew never passed the ball much, but he sure passes the buck quickly.

viewtothegym wrote:Rob Andrew never passed the ball much, but he sure passes the buck quickly.

In the paper today it is alleged that the RFU had a tab giving the players a free nights drink session on dwarf gate night!!
If true they have a real cheek to blame the players, offering Rugby players a free bar is like offering a Lion steak,they ain't going to say no.

Of course he shouldn't. Only in RFU World would someone as self-serving and quick to absolve himself of any responsibility for anything remain in post given the state of things.

I am not remotely optimistic about England's future.

On the Johnson thing did i read wrong or were some of his coaching team imposed upon him by the RFU? If so then i find it baffling.

I just stumbled across this very interesting article...

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blog/oval-talk/article/3418/

I know Andrew is deadwood but rotting corpse seems a strange expression to use with regard to Andrew. He and his job are both very much alive.

I´d compare him more to a crudely covered up industrial accident that is still very much contaminating the waterways of the RFU with no prospect of owning up to the problem let alone redressing it.

No but Rob Andrew should be thrown into the tower of London dungeons for an indefinite period.

Its actually a very funny read but there is alot of truth as to what has been written.

I am still absolutely amazed that Rob Andrew has been able to avoid any review of his own position or the fact that he has not accepted any responsibility for Englands troubles. Its almost as if he thinks that its everyone elses fault and that he is free from blame, he hasnt (as far as i am aware) even come out with a plan of action as to how to resolve these issues.

He simply isnt functioning in his position but there is no-one above hime that can take action and that will cause major problems for England Rugby as no top manager will want to touch that managers position until he is gone. That or England will get a manager just looking for a pay day and will have no real passion for England Rugby.