Ward v Froch prediction poll

Ward by wide points margin in a very good fight. He simply edges most of the round.

Heart ruling head on this one. Come on the Cobra.

froch's not a guy to write off, but head says ward in a hard worked, but comfrotable on the cards win. Hope i'm wrong

Personally I feel as though it will not be wide either way, I can only envisage a close fight, Ward cannot stop Froch I think we would all agree on that, the mans chin is something else, I think Froch could POSSIBLY stop Ward as Wards chin is relatively an unknown quantity.

I'm going with a close UD for Froch genuinely think he will pull this one off, but only just.

I hope Froch wins, Ward will do well in a war if Froch takes it there - but Froch I believe will make it his type of fight, unless Ward sticks to a gameplan to outbox Froch he won't win.

I do see Ward by points but I want a Froch win.

I know its most likely to be a close but clear UD for Ward, but Im going for Froch by the width of a cigarette paper. Come on Frochy!

My expectation would be that the first 3/4 rounds will be close enough.

I think Froch will want to box behind the jab and control the pace of the fight. Keep Ward at the end of his jab and make Ward be the one to try and get inside where Froch can catch him with hoks and uppercuts then. I think this is where Froch is most comfortable in a fight. He doesnt like chasing, because hes not the quickest in handspeed or footwork. He has a good jab and throws good hooks and uppercuts too so he likes to sit on the outside of the pocket with the jab being in control - and the bring out the heavier punches and combinations as you get closer to him before moving out of range again. He doesnt like to be close quarters and isnt that comfortable there. So I think the early exchanges will pan out with Froch adopting this strategy and Ward probing and testing Frochs defences and style.

After the 3rd or 4th round I think Ward will start to take control. Hes good on the outside, probably as good as Froch and certainly quicker, so he could try a Dirrell style plan of taking Froch out of his rythm, beating him to the punch and then tieing him up on the inside effectively. I think that would seriously unsettle Froch who neither likes chasing nor being tied up close. I also think after a few of these kind of exchanges Ward will realise he has the clear advantage on the inside and will look to engage Froch there with increasing regularity and Froch will correspondingly become increasily frustrated. Ward has the speed and style to take control of the tempo of the fight and will make Froch do all the things he isnt comfortable with chase, grapple, beaten to the punch and by round 8/9 Ward will be the boss in the fight and Froch a frustrated figure.

I think for Froch to win he simply has to keep Ward on the end of the jab and stay incontrol of the tepo and range as he did with Abraham and Johnson. The problem is Abraham an Johnson have little other tactics other than walk you down which suits Froch. Ward has the speed to frustrate Froch from the outside and to inside the jab and beat him to the punch. He also has the inside game then beat Froch up at close quarters. So I see Froch getting increasinly angry and reckless by the championship rounds where Ward is dictating the kind of fight Ward wants to fight and Froch struggles out of his rythm.

Dont envisage a KO but see Ward by 117-111 or 116-112 possibly in a fight thats gripping but rather ugly.

Ward is 6/4 by UD, it's either that or Froch knocks him out. Will be doing a straddle bet with both.

So am expecting Froch by wide UD or Ward to knock him senseless inside 30 seconds.

I've gone with my heart and opted for a close win for the Cobra. His footwork has got better and better recently so I'm hoping he can use that and his jab to keep Ward at a decent range for the first few rounds and build up a bit of a lead. From there Ward will be forced to try and get inside and gain control of the fight but he'll be met by ferocious uppercuts and hooks.

Whats Froch UD coxy? I dont see anyone getting knocked out in this one.

Haven't gone for what I want to happen, but what I think will happen - and that's a close-ish decision in Ward's favour. I think Froch can definitely win, but my fear is that he's just a bit too slow and easy to hit for Ward to not land the more eye-catching shots. Something like 116-113, given that I expect there to be some tough rounds to score.

You should add in Froch to get robbed that is my prediction. Lets be honest there is no way Froch is getting a win if it goes to cards over there he will need to win by KO no point betting on Froch to win by decision.

Waingro wrote:You should add in Froch to get robbed that is my prediction. Lets be honest there is no way Froch is getting a win if it goes to cards over there he will need to win by KO no point betting on Froch to win by decision.

There's a surprise.

Waingro wrote:You should add in Froch to get robbed that is my prediction. Lets be honest there is no way Froch is getting a win if it goes to cards over there he will need to win by KO no point betting on Froch to win by decision.

Yep only have to look at Hatton vs Collazo or Calzaghe Hopkins to see it is impossible for a Brit to win a close decision in the states.

Look at Kahn against Peterson and Hatton against Mayweather I am not saying Hatton was robbed by the way but the ref was biased taking points off him and blaming him for everything this made Hatton lose his cool. The ref in the Khan fight also took two points off and did not score the first knock down for Khan it was in Petersons home town so we should not be surprised.

So you have provided examples of two fights where British fighters did not, in your opinion, get the rub of the green stateside. I have provided two where it could be argued they did, suggests robberies in the states are perhaps not as widespread as you would have us believe.

Waingro wrote:Look at Kahn against Peterson and Hatton against Mayweather I am not saying Hatton was robbed by the way but the ref was biased taking points off him and blaming him for everything this made Hatton lose his cool. The ref in the Khan fight also took two points off and did not score the first knock down for Khan it was in Petersons home town so we should not be surprised.

Did Hatton have points taken off him against Floyd? Regardless, it didn't have an effect on the outcome after Floyd sent him torpedoing into the ring post with a wonderful check hook.

Yeah in fairness to waingro Hatton did get a point deducted in rather dubious fashion against Mayweather. I actually do agree with waingro that Cortez wasnt good that night. Wouldnt have matter in that fight ultimately but in a close fight it would make a difference.

I think ward is better than froch on the inside and on the outside. Despite froch's physical strength and ability to go to war, his best work is done with the straight punches as he has a long reach and some times struggles to get his punches on the inside given his speed. ward showed vs Green and kessler that he can box on the inside and most often in the pocket, he has quick hands and is accurate with short left. On the outside ward has a speed advantage and his right should land on carl all night long. Johnson landed that shot and he was a lot slower and his shots where telegraphed.

My hope is ward is wary of froch's power so retreats and gets caught on the ropes where froch can tee off on him. A wide UD for ward unfortunately

Although froch is the ouncher, you can see that as he has stepped up against world class opposition, i.e. pascal, he has only knocked out taylor since then. I don't think he hits as everyone suggests

you know I'm wondering if the debatable results of late might actually help Froch. Judges will be consious of hearing about home decisions. I fancy Froch to have learnt enough to edge this. maybe a split decision. doubt it will be pretty but will be interesting

All this talk of Froch saying there is no way way he is going to get knocked out actually makes me think he's gonna get knocked out- reminds me of Hatton v Pacman to an extent. Would love it not to be the case, but ive become so accustomed to the fighters that i want to win being on the receiving end of the exact opposite that when it comes to boxing im a glass half empty kind of guy.

cant see ward having enough to hurt froch that way. not been many straight ko's in the comp so far. doubt it will start now

Maybe not knocked out but stopped on his feet- just me being massively pessamistic. On the other side of the coin, i think Froch is only saying it because he wants Ward to try to knock him out- this also worries me in that Froch is already worried about getting outboxed- could just be mindgames but could be genuine worry from the Froch camp

Mate the only way Ward will win this by KO is if he headbutts Froch and causes cuts like he did to Kessler. He does not have the power to knock Froch out who has a great chin.

Agree with spencer re the recent decisions possibly helping Froch. We saw it with Sturm and Murray after all.

Ward by a tough but clear 116-112 UD.

What time are ring walks gonna be? Coverage starts at midnight on Sky but got zero idea if they're pandering to the west coast so it'll start at silly o'clock?

Ah, just seen it's 9pm eastern time... Which i make out to be around 2pm our time

Least it's not Vegas

I am going purely with my heart here and voting Froch by KO as it's christmas and wishes really do come true!!! either that or Hollywood has been lying to me for years....

I also think that Froch is going to pull this one out of the bag and KO Ward. Ward maybe slippery but he only likes a fight on his terms and I don't believe that Froch will allow him to do that.

I think there will be a few surprises on Saturday.

coxy0001 wrote:Ah, just seen it's 9pm eastern time... Which i make out to be around 2pm our time

Least it's not Vegas

Kell Brook due to enter the ring about 2.15am UK time, with Froch around 3.30am UK time, according to Eddie Hearn.

Fists of Fury wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:Ah, just seen it's 9pm eastern time... Which i make out to be around 2pm our time

Least it's not Vegas

Kell Brook due to enter the ring about 2.15am UK time, with Froch around 3.30am UK time, according to Eddie Hearn.

Ah bugger that's their start time isn't it, not fight time.

Oh well, will come on here and misbehave during the warm up.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Personally I feel as though it will not be wide either way, I can only envisage a close fight, Ward cannot stop Froch I think we would all agree on that, the mans chin is something else, I think Froch could POSSIBLY stop Ward as Wards chin is relatively an unknown quantity.

I'm going with a close UD for Froch genuinely think he will pull this one off, but only just.

Ward can't stop Froch? I think he'll do exactly that if Froch tries to bring it. Froch was scrambled by Taylor. Dirrell also buzzed him. Froch needs to keep this fight at range and box Ward behind his jab - then, and then only, he can try and mix it up.

Ward wins.

This fight will go the distance with hopefully Ward winning by a shutout decision. That way Froch wont be able to whinge when about the result (which he probably will anyway). Come on Andre

I have a feeling Froch is going to stop him late rounds.

I'm going the other way. I've got a feeling Ward stops, or the ref stops Froch by the 9th. Looking over their records, I don't think Froch has much more power than Ward. Throw in Ward's use of his head, I think it will be Ward by TKO.

I see Ward winning a messy fight on points.

Fists of Fury wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:Ah, just seen it's 9pm eastern time... Which i make out to be around 2pm our time

Least it's not Vegas

Kell Brook due to enter the ring about 2.15am UK time, with Froch around 3.30am UK time, according to Eddie Hearn.

Good luck Kell

Is he still chatting to you on twitter Fists?

Steffan wrote:This fight will go the distance with hopefully Ward winning by a shutout decision. That way Froch wont be able to whinge when about the result (which he probably will anyway). Come on Andre

You want Froch to lose because he threatens Calzaghe's topspot at 168. I'm going for Ward by KO/TKO - 9-1 odds, that's the bet.

Whoever wins you can guarentee someone will manage to describe it somehow with the word "Robbery" that's a gimme.

I think the last thing we need is another close SD... A few of us might implode as we've been a little bit arguementative recently.... not mentioning names

Yeah Coxy, some fall for the bait consistently however...

Anywho ladies and gents, stupidly long day at work and now I'm off to get drunk, hopefully see you all on Sunday to talk about the disgrace of a decision.

Captain Lucas wrote:

Steffan wrote:This fight will go the distance with hopefully Ward winning by a shutout decision. That way Froch wont be able to whinge when about the result (which he probably will anyway). Come on Andre

You want Froch to lose because he threatens Calzaghe's topspot at 168. I'm going for Ward by KO/TKO - 9-1 odds, that's the bet.

If anyone takes Calzaghes SMW top spot it will be Ward not Froch

Steffan wrote:

Captain Lucas wrote:

Steffan wrote:This fight will go the distance with hopefully Ward winning by a shutout decision. That way Froch wont be able to whinge when about the result (which he probably will anyway). Come on Andre

You want Froch to lose because he threatens Calzaghe's topspot at 168. I'm going for Ward by KO/TKO - 9-1 odds, that's the bet.

If anyone takes Calzaghes SMW top spot it will be Ward not Froch

When Froch beats Ward he will..... And will cement it when he beats Bute

coxy0001 wrote:When Froch beats Ward he will..... And will cement it when he beats Bute

Good for you...

Steffan wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:When Froch beats Ward he will..... And will cement it when he beats Bute

Good for you...

Good for Froch more like

coxy0001 wrote:

Steffan wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:When Froch beats Ward he will..... And will cement it when he beats Bute

Good for you...

Good for Froch more like

Im sure you will be just as overjoyed...

Hope Froch does it but Ward builds up an early enough lead and takes this by UD,Froch can't afford not to come out of the blocks quick but suspect this is what might happen.

Ward to win easily. He's different league, silky, technically gifted.

Froch is a brawler. He'll be easy picking for Ward.

This is indicated by how easily Ward dismantled Kessler, and Froch got owned by Kessler.

ward by a close points victory for me, maybe even a SD.