The 606V2 Fantastic Fantasy League Homepage IV

by TwisT Fri 09 Mar 2012, 8:52 am

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League Breakdown and Rules

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League A

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - Hero

Tactics

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT

Injuries

AC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - Marky

Lawyers

Straight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBull

Fixtures

Cunning Canaries FC - ollyrules

Results

Viva City - VivaPaulScholes

Table

Shuntingsheep F.C - Fan Gilhaus

Carling FC - InTheFastLane

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League B

The London Silly Nannies - sodhat

Tactics

Jacamos United - TSC

Injuries

FC Furious - nick_fury

Lawyers

Sporting Sideburns FC - Y I Man

Fixtures

AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando

Results

FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan

Table

Walker Texas Rangers FC - Nay Bother

City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:30 pm

Completely agree about Mourinho, he's the number one choice if your club wants short term success only, but he leaves behind no legacy.

Since he left Chelsea they haven't been the same, Inter Milan have fallen to pieces since he left to join Real Madrid, and only under Mourinho can Real Madrid finish above Barcelona, but once he's gone it will go back to Barca rule.

On a side note, the problem with replacing Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is that whoever comes in will have two options.

1. Build his own side, and risk being fired when they go 2 seasons without a trophy.

2. Be a SAF clone and get success with SAF's players and methods, then get none of the credit.

Ferguson went 4 years without winning anything at Man U, if the next Ferguson went to Man U and didn't win anything for his first 3 years he'd be sacked as it's a different football world and a different era now.

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:36 pm

Marky wrote:Completely agree about Mourinho, he's the number one choice if your club wants short term success only, but he leaves behind no legacy.

Since he left Chelsea they haven't been the same, Inter Milan have fallen to pieces since he left to join Real Madrid, and only under Mourinho can Real Madrid finish above Barcelona, but once he's gone it will go back to Barca rule.

On a side note, the problem with replacing Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is that whoever comes in will have two options.

1. Build his own side, and risk being fired when they go 2 seasons without a trophy.

2. Be a SAF clone and get success with SAF's players and methods, then get none of the credit.

Ferguson went 4 years without winning anything at Man U, if the next Ferguson went to Man U and didn't win anything for his first 3 years he'd be sacked as it's a different football world and a different era now.

Although if Mourinho went to United, he would win two trophies per season, showing SAF to actually not be a very good manager and that he got the benefit of the resources he had available to him. He should have won more than he did really.

Mourinho would ruin SAF legacy, therefore SAF will never allow him to take over.

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:40 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Marky wrote:Completely agree about Mourinho, he's the number one choice if your club wants short term success only, but he leaves behind no legacy.

Since he left Chelsea they haven't been the same, Inter Milan have fallen to pieces since he left to join Real Madrid, and only under Mourinho can Real Madrid finish above Barcelona, but once he's gone it will go back to Barca rule.

On a side note, the problem with replacing Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is that whoever comes in will have two options.

1. Build his own side, and risk being fired when they go 2 seasons without a trophy.

2. Be a SAF clone and get success with SAF's players and methods, then get none of the credit.

Ferguson went 4 years without winning anything at Man U, if the next Ferguson went to Man U and didn't win anything for his first 3 years he'd be sacked as it's a different football world and a different era now.

Although if Mourinho went to United, he would win two trophies per season, showing SAF to actually not be a very good manager and that he got the benefit of the resources he had available to him. He should have won more than he did really.

Mourinho would ruin SAF legacy, therefore SAF will never allow him to take over.

But Mourinho would have left in 3-4 years with his short term success over and his stock raised, the club would then be stuck in a bit of a rut with no SAF to rebuild them. Ferguson has had success over a very long term, so unless Mourinho does that for 8-10 years at the same club can he claim to have a better legacy.

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:42 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Marky wrote:Completely agree about Mourinho, he's the number one choice if your club wants short term success only, but he leaves behind no legacy.

Since he left Chelsea they haven't been the same, Inter Milan have fallen to pieces since he left to join Real Madrid, and only under Mourinho can Real Madrid finish above Barcelona, but once he's gone it will go back to Barca rule.

On a side note, the problem with replacing Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United is that whoever comes in will have two options.

1. Build his own side, and risk being fired when they go 2 seasons without a trophy.

2. Be a SAF clone and get success with SAF's players and methods, then get none of the credit.

Ferguson went 4 years without winning anything at Man U, if the next Ferguson went to Man U and didn't win anything for his first 3 years he'd be sacked as it's a different football world and a different era now.

Although if Mourinho went to United, he would win two trophies per season, showing SAF to actually not be a very good manager and that he got the benefit of the resources he had available to him. He should have won more than he did really.

Mourinho would ruin SAF legacy, therefore SAF will never allow him to take over.

:fishingrodsmiley: PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST IT IS CLEARLY A WIND UP I REPEAT DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST. PLEASE IGNORE IT WE WON'T BE BAITED BY YOU MR AFRO!!!

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:45 pm

Whether he left in 3-4 years or not, he would come in and win trophies at a greater rate than SAF, showing that SAF won what he did because of the resources, not because of his ability.

A talented manager would have won far more than SAF. Paisley's trophy record for Liverpool is comparable to SAF, but he achieved it over a much, much shorter period. If he had had 25 years, his achievements would dwarf SAFs

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:47 pm

A more talented manager would have won far more than SAF.

Well done Captain Obvious, thats like saying if you were faster then Usain Bolt you'd be quicker then him.

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:50 pm

duly corrected

by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:51 pm

Although if Mourinho went to United, he would win two trophies per season, showing SAF to actually not be a very good manager and that he got the benefit of the resources he had available to him. He should have won more than he did really.

haha, Afro get back to your

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by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:54 pm

Paisley >>>> SAF and that is from an Evertonian

SAF is seriously overrated. If Ron Atkinson had been given the time that SAF has had, he would have the same kind of record.

Right place, right time springs to mind.

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:55 pm

I'd be all for Mourinho taking over, his name carries stature, he'd be able to bring in some of the best in the world simply through who he is.Moyes for however a decent manager he is, his name means nothing on a global scale.

by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 12:59 pm

OK Afro

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by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:00 pm

I'd be all for Mourinho taking over, his name carries stature, he'd be able to bring in some of the best in the world imply through who he is.Moyes for however a decent manager he is, his name means nothing on a global scale.

Thats true his name will attract more than Moyes. Id only take Mourinho at Man United if he bourght back CR Laugh

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:02 pm

But Moyes might bring Hibbert with him...

by sodhat Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:03 pm

nick_fury wrote:
I'd be all for Mourinho taking over, his name carries stature, he'd be able to bring in some of the best in the world imply through who he is.Moyes for however a decent manager he is, his name means nothing on a global scale.
Thats true his name will attract more than Moyes. Id only take Mourinho at Man United if he bourght back CR

You'd have more chance with Queiroz...

I'd take Mourinho every day of the week, he may move around a fair bit, but he loves England and I get the feeling would happily settle for a long period at a club if he could feel secure. I don't think he'd have left Chelsea of his own accord so quickly either.

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:04 pm

Paisley took over from Shakley. Shankley made the club. Ferguson has both of them in him.Paisley took over a quality side, Fergie didn't.

I really think Hero and Afro are secret Liverpool fans, they love Gerrard so hard and love Liverpool even harder.

Back at 2

I'm allowed to say I love Nick now

by Guest Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:06 pm

Can we keep external smilies in spoiler tabs please, not very safe for work to see images jumping around the place.

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:09 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Paisley took over from Shakley. Shankley made the club. Ferguson has both of them in him.Paisley took over a quality side, Fergie didn't.

I really think Hero and Afro are secret Liverpool fans, they love Gerrard so hard and love Liverpool even harder.

Back at 2

I'm allowed to say I love Nick now

If you look back at United in the few years before SAF and Liverpool in the last few years of Shankley, their performances and achievements are frighteningly similar.

Shankley didn't win that many trophies for Liverpool, he was just there for a long time and established them towards the top of the old first division.

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:13 pm

Votes sent to Hero thumbsup

by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:14 pm

Can we keep external smilies in spoiler tabs please, not very safe for work to see images jumping around the place.

I woulnt of thought it was safe for work to see you on a forum when you should be working. Just a thought.

Afro, stop being a silly sausage. you know SAF is the man.

by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:14 pm

Whens results out lads?

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:16 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Paisley took over from Shakley. Shankley made the club. Ferguson has both of them in him.Paisley took over a quality side, Fergie didn't.

I really think Hero and Afro are secret Liverpool fans, they love Gerrard so hard and love Liverpool even harder.

Back at 2

I'm allowed to say I love Nick now

I despise Liverpool with an absolute passion, but I am objective enough to judge them without wearing my Everton-tinted specs, something which United fans are unable to do.

I would never take a United fan's opinion of Liverpool, or a Liverpool fan's opinion of United, as regardless of how much they claim to be objective, they never are.

by Guest Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:18 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Can we keep external smilies in spoiler tabs please, not very safe for work to see images jumping around the place.
I woulnt of thought it was safe for work to see you on a forum when you should be working. Just a thought.

When minimised it used to blend in with the schedules on Excel I was working on.
Having images jumping about would not blend in. That is why we have small in house smilies only.

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:19 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Can we keep external smilies in spoiler tabs please, not very safe for work to see images jumping around the place.
I woulnt of thought it was safe for work to see you on a forum when you should be working. Just a thought.

Afro, stop being a silly sausage. you know SAF is the man.

Previous WUMs aside, he is clearly not overrated and deserves all the praise he gets. He is the third best manager this country has ever produced, behind Paisley and Herbert Chapman.

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:20 pm

I think I can be fairly objective in regards to Liverpool as a person that follows Utd, I recognise how great several of their past teams have been, I've been along to Liverpool matches with my mate (though had to keep stum when Utd was being shown on the telly in the Anfield Pub and scored v City).

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:24 pm

Hero wrote:I think I can be fairly objective in regards to Liverpool as a person that follows Utd, I recognise how great several of their past teams have been, I've been along to Liverpool matches with my mate (though had to keep stum when Utd was being shown on the telly in the Anfield Pub and scored v City).

I once went to a Birmingham v Liverpool game with a Liverpool supporting friend and another Liverpool supporter who had no idea I supported Everton. I had to keep quiet as the other guy kept slating Everton and complaining about how lucky we were (in truth, we had fluked a 1-0 win v Southampton the day before thanks to Tomas Radzinski).

We were in the away end with all the Norwegian and Irish Liverpool fans, but I enjoyed the game immensely as Birmingham beat them Laugh

by cherriesfna Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:26 pm

liverpool of know are useless and united aint much better but United have rooney and a class manager unlike liverpool

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:32 pm

I've got all my results in now so just waiting on TSC to confirm he's got his.

by sodhat Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:36 pm

Votes in to TSC just now guys.

It's interesting the debate above, even though Afro was on the wind up. Who would be consesus the best British manager? Be a fair old shortlist:

Paisley
Clough
Shankly
Ferguson
Revie
Nicholson
Stein
Ramsey
Robson

There must be loads I've missed on that list (I, for one, would have Ron Greenwood on there Cool

) but it's hard to pick a clear winner.

by The Special Juan Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:39 pm

Ahoy, I'll be here until I hear "Supersonic" on the radio then I'll have to go. I have 4/8 votes in :/ Me, nick, nando and sodhat.

Thank you to those who have votes in so far. You may add the £2m to you budget if you haven't already. Ok!

by nick_fury Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:44 pm

liverpool of know are useless and united aint much better but United have rooney and a class manager unlike liverpool

Thats a bold statement considering we are the only team challanging Man Citys 1st place spot in the league

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:49 pm

I think useless is a bit on an overstatement.

This current United team is one of the weakest it has had in the last 10-15 years, but it is still better than all but City in the Premier League.

They also have that important quality of being able to win when they aren't performing well.

by The Special Juan Fri 09 Mar 2012, 1:49 pm

Talking of statements...

"You will realise there has been a great deal of speculation in the media surrounding the events at Rangers FC.

Should it be required and only when the situation is absolutely clear at Rangers FC, any view of St Mirren FC Ltd would be taken by the Board of Directors.

No speculative thought or decision shall come from St Mirren FC until the exact position at Rangers FC is known.

If the Board of Directors of St Mirren FC be required to make any decisions they would decide the best way forward in the best interests of St Mirren FC and the Scottish Premier League.

St Mirren FC hope however, that the current situation at Rangers FC can be resolved quickly, to the satisfaction of all parties concerned and in the best interests of Scottish Football."

by sodhat Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:04 pm

So regarding TP's, all I have to do is PM Hero the player and match his TM value to be sure to get him?

Also, players available at TLSN, all shapes and sizes for the discerning shopper.

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:05 pm

Howedes?

by sodhat Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:06 pm

Hero wrote:Howedes?

As always I will listen to your offers before politely declining them...

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:17 pm

Cherries you talk to much rubbish mate, United are useless? Sorry you must be smoking some herbs.

Hero don't edit my posts please, it's true that you and Afro are very fond of Gerrard.

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:23 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Cherries you talk to much rubbish mate, United are useless? Sorry you must be smoking some herbs.

Come on, we all know AFC Boremouth are the bestest team in the world with the bestest manager and players, that's why they're riding high in the top half of League 1 thumbsup

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:23 pm

Don't post things that are offensive then!

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:26 pm

Marky wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:Cherries you talk to much rubbish mate, United are useless? Sorry you must be smoking some herbs.

Come on, we all know AFC Boremouth are the bestest team in the world with the bestest manager and players, that's why they're riding high in the top half of League 1

How could I forget that? I must have been too high on Banana skin. Don't forget they have the even bestestest fan of all time CherriesFan.

But it's true you and Afro love him off so hard.

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:28 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sroqHSJtfOo&feature=share

The (in)famous moment when the substitutions board gets dropped on Fergie's foot.

by Fan Gilhaus Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:28 pm

by TwisT Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:28 pm

Good luck in our game Fan

by The Special Juan Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:31 pm

Ahoy Fan.

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:31 pm

As the only one who's opponent didn't submit tactics, does this mean I am currently top of the league?

Yahoo

by FIFA Diva Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:32 pm

Hi Fan have you missed me?

Guys whats happening with FastLane? He has not commented on our league since 28th Feb but he has been around on other leagues and posting there. That is just taking the urine and not on especially when others were interested in the league. He has done this before on other Football games.

by The Special Juan Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:33 pm

Is it ok if I award your default goals to your goalie?

by **Afro** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:34 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hi Fan have you missed me?

Guys whats happening with FastLane? He has not commented on our league since 28th Feb but he has been around on other leagues and posting there. That is just taking the urine and not on especially when others were interested in the league. He has done this before on other Football games.

He's pulled out already Viva

by **Hero** Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:36 pm

Yes we need another manager, if anyone sees Nadz he's more than welcome to take the spot. I actually had ITFL's team down as fave for our league as well!

by Marky Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:38 pm

TSC wrote:Is it ok if I award your default goals to your goalie?

If i'd have known this would happen i'd have signed Emile Heskey on loan and got the goals awarded to him Laugh

Falcao and Lamela with 3 each would do Whistle

by Fan Gilhaus Fri 09 Mar 2012, 2:38 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hi Fan have you missed me?

Guys whats happening with FastLane? He has not commented on our league since 28th Feb but he has been around on other leagues and posting there. That is just taking the urine and not on especially when others were interested in the league. He has done this before on other Football games.

Like a hole in my head

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