Wales U20s vs NZ U20s Junior Rugby World Cup Semi Final...

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Game over...!

sugarNspikes wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:Sugar - maybe that's because refereeing standards, everywhere, are pretty poor? Just a thought.

I wouldn't disagree that there is sometimes some poor refereeing, but to say that it makes more than a 20-point swing is a bit rich.

Firstly, nobody has said that and secondly that depends how bad it is.

This Kiwi centre partnership is absolutely sublime.. Very Bunce and Little.

With respect to Wales they are still defending the hearts out and getting some reward for it

6 - 30 to NZ 71:23 gone

it's their opinion, Maes, they're entitled to it even if I don't agree with it.

Sugar - no one has said that, please stop making things up.


Aha the commentary team just said: "since Wales early dominance in the scrums they've turned into a mess and to be fair it's not been entirely the players' fault"

and "NZ just got away with murder there"

When the commentary team are coming out with things like that, you know the ref has been bad.

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

yes but at worst we will finish 4th if we lose?
given up on this ref, hope he can be kept at reffing u20 level

This is beyond, i can't even feel angry im actually laughing at this,
you couldn't make stuff like this up! im a gasp at this ref.
Poor Wales them lads have done us proud

C'Mon Wales...

We have weathered a heavy storm and still want to get some points this half...

Grat spirit, even in the face of adversity.

Ref or not the tackling by Wales today has been terrible, far too many of them are not switched on.

where is the ref from?

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina.

mckay1402 wrote:where is the ref from?

Referee:
Lourens Van Der Merwe (South Africa)

the offloading and precision of the BBs under pressure is unequalled at this level.

Shifty wrote:

mckay1402 wrote:where is the ref from?

South Africa.

If he was biased, he would let Wales win in all honesty.

rugbydreamer wrote:it's their opinion, Maes, they're entitled to it even if I don't agree with it.

if we were referring to someone making an opinion on rugby I would agree with you.

We are not, this poster is referring to the contribution of other posters and that is very different....!!!

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina.

aha you've cottoned on to the fact that perhaps "people" would prefer a NZ v SA final?

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina South Africa.

Fixed that for you biltong

NZ player holding Walker down, and NZ make a 40metre run off it

rugbydreamer wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina.

aha you've cottoned on to the fact that perhaps "people" would prefer a NZ v SA final?

Not me, the Baby Blacks are too strong for us.

I really hope Argentina win this now

I wouldn't think so, Biltong. Their scrum isn't very good (if reffed correctly) although they are very clinical when they are on the attack. They are definitely beatable though

biltongbek wrote:

Shifty wrote:

mckay1402 wrote:where is the ref from?

South Africa.

If he was biased, he would let Wales win in all honesty.

Not sure if it's bias; incompetent and inconsistent at the very least.

wales606 wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina South Africa.

Fixed that for you biltong

Ha ha ha

Either are very good teams, I am looking forward to the next match as much as the roast lamb in the oven I am going to start tucking in to soon....


The game is turning into a very loose affaire. Mind you that takes the referees influence away from the game.

Amazed the ref didn't give a penalty for throwing the ball into touch there

wales606 wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina South Africa.

Fixed that for you biltong

Now why did you want to make me upset, have I not always only been nice to you?

Red_Dragon_Spirit wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

Shifty wrote:

mckay1402 wrote:where is the ref from?

South Africa.

If he was biased, he would let Wales win in all honesty.

Not sure if it's bias; incompetent and inconsistent at the very least.

In the first half I put it down to incompetence. Now im not so sure...

Some fantastic players in the ABs side, sure they will do well at senior level. West at ten and Emery at 13 are fantastic, as is the number eight.

biltongbek wrote:

Shifty wrote:

mckay1402 wrote:where is the ref from?

South Africa.

If he was biased, he would let Wales win in all honesty.

I dont think he's biased, I think he is clueless. He seems to favour which ever teams gives him a round of applause when he awards a penalty. New Zealand are smarter and have given him lots of clapping.

biltongbek wrote:

wales606 wrote:

biltongbek wrote:

rugbydreamer wrote:

welshy6 wrote:sorry RD, just getting frustrated and i know i shouldnt bite, but i was also being factual.

so i shall put a more positive slant on that

wales will be at least 4th, which is much better than last year!

Won't we go into a 3rd place play off match with who ever loses the 2nd SF?

Yes, you'll play Argentina South Africa.

Fixed that for you biltong

Now why did you want to make me upset, have I not always only been nice to you?

I just want to see Wales play South Africa

rugbydreamer wrote:I wouldn't think so, Biltong. Their scrum isn't very good (if reffed correctly) although they are very clinical when they are on the attack. They are definitely beatable though

i don't give us much chance against them RD.

biltongbek wrote: Not me, the Baby Blacks are too strong for us.

Well too strong or not, I hope they get reffed equally, and can lose or win with dignity.

Incompetent ref but we've also just not been at the races (although I don't know whether we've just become disheartened in the 2nd half, I think that wrongly disallowed try took it all out of us).

6 - 30 at FT.

Disappointed with our lineout too.

Game over...!

Well done Junior rugby. Some great players on display. A deserved victory to the young Kiwis.

walker and sam davies are rubbish.

good tries from NZ but argh ref

Well, I was rooting for Wales here, but sadly things didn't go their way in the second half.

Red_Dragon_Spirit wrote:

biltongbek wrote: Not me, the Baby Blacks are too strong for us.

Well too strong or not, I hope they get reffed equally, and can lose or win with dignity.

Red dragon, I agree with you, all I want is a fair contest, no Bruce Lawrebce thankfully.

rugbydreamer wrote:Incompetent ref but we've also just not been at the races (although I don't know whether we've just become disheartened in the 2nd half, I think that wrongly disallowed try took it all out of us).

6 - 30 at FT.

Disappointed with our lineout too.

Line out was excellent in the first half, won a few of theirs and all of ours... I think the influence of the ref around breakdown and set piece rattled Wales a lot. They were fighting a battle that wouldnt go their way.

Fair play to them keeping their heads up and tried to play rugby to the end.

biltongbek wrote:Well, I was rooting for Wales here, but sadly things didn't go their way in the second half.

Too scared to face us in the 3/4th then

Beaten fairly by the Baby Blacks, scoreline determined by the ref.

biltongbek wrote:Well, I was rooting for Wales here, but sadly things didn't go their way in the second half.

Cheers Bill

Next up is going to be a superb match. the Baby Bok look sublime, but this Argie team have a lot of conviction. I wouldnt fancy us playing either.

Really proud of the lads still. Hopefully we'll get third now.

Red_Dragon_Spirit wrote:Beaten fairly by the Baby Blacks, scoreline determined by the ref.

Can you get that put on a T-Shirt?

Best team won no complaints, our defense was awful at times. the players just were not switched on. For the first try none of the other players went to help Morgan against the New Zealand pod formed in front of him. Not switched on at all for that.

Prydie shut his eyes and hoped for the best in contact on the try line and totally missed his man.

Combined with poor reffing and silly mistakes in key areas and we get a big margin against us.

Well, if Wales won their semi, I would want us to win ours, now with NZ winning the match, erm... Yeas I still want us to win ours.

i think.

From twitter:

Stephen Ferris ‏@StephenFerris6
Referee has really screwed the wales U20's


Anyway, chuffed with the effort from the lads even if the execution wasn't there, and glad they kept going right to the end regardless.

BB's were very, very clinical though and we made too many errors against them, so fair play to them.

maestegmafia wrote:

biltongbek wrote:Well, I was rooting for Wales here, but sadly things didn't go their way in the second half.

Cheers Bill

Next up is going to be a superb match. the Baby Bok look sublime, but this Argie team have a lot of conviction. I wouldnt fancy us playing either.

We played them in a three match series as a warm up for this tournament, we won two and drew one, so Inwould expect the Baby Boks to be confident, but then this is a one off match.

biltongbek wrote:Well, if Wales won their semi, I would want us to win ours, now with NZ winning the match, erm... Yeas I still want us to win ours.

i think.

Good luck Biltong.

Still, i'll be supporting the plucky Argentinians...despite the whole Falklands thing.

Im very dissapointed with that game. Impessive attacking skills by the baby blacks however the game was destroyed as a competition by very very poor reffing. The welsh have only themselves to blame for mistakes at the lineout and that cost them big time.

The ref wasnt fit to umpire a game of mini rugby let alone this level.

welshy6 wrote:walker and sam davies are rubbish.

good tries from NZ but argh ref

Agree with your comments on Davies and Walker, the Ospreys should get shot of the pair of them, no bottle in the tackle area. This comment is not only from this game, how Walker is considered for the senior side is beyond me, yes he may be fast but nothing else.

The team did very well and looked good for 30mins, could do with G North and Robinson on the wings.

Sam Davies was shocking, no where near the quality of Morgan

glamorganalun wrote:

welshy6 wrote:walker and sam davies are rubbish.

good tries from NZ but argh ref

Agree with your comments on Davies and Walker, the Ospreys should get shot of the pair of them, no bottle in the tackle area. This comment is not only from this game, how Walker is considered for the senior side is beyond me, yes he may be fast but nothing else.

The team did very well and looked good for 30mins, could do with G North and Robinson on the wings.

Walker is fourth choice behind North Robinson, Prydie.

Though I would have rather seen Luke Morgan or Iolo Evans in his place. Sam Davies is good in bits and pieces but anyone would look average near Matthew Morgan, even in defeat he looked great...