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Post by spencerclarke Tue 06 Nov 2012, 9:34 pm

'Evening all'.

Thoughts please on you favourite and worst commentators.

For the worst I would go mainly with itv ones. Jim beglin and Andy Townsend being the most annoying I feel. David pleat is also in this bracket but recently I have been introduced to a drinking game for when he gets players names wrong so now I find him useless but amusing.

Whilst we are on it how about pundits. Southgate I feel was a terrible commentator but a very good pundit

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Post by Stella Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:47 am

I like Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Martin Keown and Lee Dixon as pundits.

Neville is also good as a co-commentator.

The worst commentators for me, are, Lawrenson and the other BBC guy, who commentated during the euro's. Both smug know it all's.

I don't actually mind Townsend or Tyldesley although the latter can be a tad biased.

I do miss Andy Gray though. He said the obvious at times but was always passionate.
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Post by wadey101 Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:57 am

Martin Tyler is clearly for me the best commentator at the moment. He is so much better than any of the play by play guys. Can't stand Alan Parry.

I also miss Andy Gray, his partnership with Tyler was the best out there. Gary Neville is alright but the likes of Quinn and Le Tissier aren't good enough.

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Post by super_realist Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:58 am

Without doubt the worst ever commentator is Archie McPherson. In fact any commentator from Scotland is rubbish.
Stuart Hall makes me laugh as a reporter.

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Post by John Cregan Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:01 pm

For a commentator , i often think knowledge of the game can be a hindrance. You want to leave all the "analysis" to a co-commentator or the studio guests.

Take John Motson, superb commentator, but any time ive heard him interviewed, i dont think he has a good knowledge of the game.

As for the studio pundits, Sky dont want their puindits to be good analysts at all, they prefer some fella who preferably played for both teams in action, or an injured player from one of the teams. Ryan Giggs was on for a Wales match once - his analysis was shocking. Dwight Yorke is another shocker.

There is also a tendancy on Sky not to highlight certain players poor performances, unless it is conduct related.
This can often be put down to ex or current players being hopelessly biased..........not a good starting point for a pundit. I recall Darren Fletcher being excused from answering any acquard Suarez questions last year........just what you want in a pundit!!

In ireland, John Giles is peerless.


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Post by super_realist Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:09 pm

Clive "1966" Tyldsely is dreadful

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Post by hampo17 Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:15 pm

Niall Quinn is awful, even if the ref makes a howler he says it was the right decision.

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Post by Stella Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:21 pm

Did anybofy see Freddie Llungberg on MOTD2? he was urine poor to say the least.
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Post by dancingweeman Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:28 pm

hampo171 wrote:Niall Quinn is awful, even if the ref makes a howler he says it was the right decision.

Couldn't agree more. By far the most annoying commentator I can remember.

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Post by monty junior Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:33 pm

Clive Tyldsely, John Motson, Andy Townsend are all atrocious one eyed morons. David Provan is also useless.

Agreed on Martin Tyler being the best, one i used to like but i don't know who he works for now was Peter Brackley. He was great back in the days of Football Italia.


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Post by Stella Wed 07 Nov 2012, 12:41 pm

Barry Davies was my all time favourite.
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Post by Crimey Wed 07 Nov 2012, 1:16 pm

I know a lot don't like him, but I quite like Jonathan Pearce as well as Martin Tyler.

The worst pundit has got to be Emmanuel Adebayor in BBC's world cup coverage.

To be honest, I've started to dislike most pundits.

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Post by westisbest Wed 07 Nov 2012, 1:45 pm

Cant stand Johnathan Pearce, so annoying.

Also John Motson.

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Post by westisbest Wed 07 Nov 2012, 1:53 pm

Was it Le Tissier commentating on the QPR-Reading game las sunday. Poor.

Quite like John Champion, Craig Burley and Chris Waddle on ESPN.

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Post by two_tone Wed 07 Nov 2012, 2:36 pm

Presenters - Linekar and Chiles in equal measure make my blood boil, can't stand the pair of them.

Pundits - Shearer, Souness, Crooks, Yorke and Le Tissier are awful. Do like Seedorf, Neville, Dixon, Wilkins among others.

Commentators - Motson drives me mental along with Townsend - always liked Pearce and Tyler. Thank god Gray is gone, he was the worst and most biased commentator / pundit I have ever seen, would literally salavate over 'Stevie G'. Good riddance.

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Post by nasisillmatic Wed 07 Nov 2012, 2:44 pm

Andy Gray always loved the top players. I get the feeling he thought he could relate to them, because he considered himself to be on their level back in his day

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Post by Guest Wed 07 Nov 2012, 5:10 pm

I couldn't stand Andy Gray. I watched a re-run of the 2005 League Cup final last week and he just didn't shut up. Sometimes it's best to let the action speak for itself, especially during the umpteenth replay. There is passion and there is overkill. If that guy was chocolate he'd eat himself.


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Post by spencerclarke Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:49 pm

Garth crooks is shocking. He is always so aggressive and when you watch match of the day after having seen final score you wonder what game he has been watching.

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Post by spencerclarke Wed 07 Nov 2012, 11:51 pm

Plus I love stats as much as the next person but when motty gets on to them he misses mostof the action. Lawrenson on five live is much better than when he is on tv. He's a lot funnier in the radio

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Post by westisbest Thu 08 Nov 2012, 8:33 am

spencerclarke wrote:Garth crooks is shocking. He is always so aggressive and when you watch match of the day after having seen final score you wonder what game he has been watching.

Agree.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 08 Nov 2012, 9:59 am

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9EMpaengQY

Chris Goreham is the best commentator. Period.
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Post by Fernando Thu 08 Nov 2012, 10:09 am

The guy who does the german league highlights on itv is abysmal OK

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Post by The Special Juan Thu 08 Nov 2012, 10:21 am

Fernando wrote:The guy who does the german league highlights on itv is abysmal OK

Laugh I know!! What tense does he speak in? He talks about the match in the past tense but reacts to seeing them live. Plus he has a stupid voice.

Other poor commentators include Niall Quinn, who I've noticed is a teensy bit biased at times, Jonathan Legard and Stephen Craigan.
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Post by spencerclarke Thu 08 Nov 2012, 12:58 pm

Roy Keane tends to be poor in the general sense of a pundit but gold in the comedy stakes as he usually starts debate, whether it being with a person in the room or someone on the pitch he has offended.

G Nev also seems to have swung a lot of peoples opinion of him around a fair bit. With the exception of the Torres orgasm he does come across as very clued up.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 14 Nov 2012, 3:44 pm

I love Clive Tyldesley and Andy Townsend when they commentate on England, their so biased towards England...just the way it should be! I can't stand Pearce and Lawrenson on the BBC. Overall, Martin Tyler is probably the best.

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Post by dummy_half Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:16 pm

Duty281 wrote:I love Clive Tyldesley and Andy Townsend when they commentate on England, their so biased towards England...just the way it should be! I can't stand Pearce and Lawrenson on the BBC. Overall, Martin Tyler is probably the best.

That would be former Republic of Ireland international Andy Townsend. Born in Maidstone and raised in Bexley (Irish granny).

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Post by Duty281 Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:26 pm

dummy_half wrote:
Duty281 wrote:I love Clive Tyldesley and Andy Townsend when they commentate on England, their so biased towards England...just the way it should be! I can't stand Pearce and Lawrenson on the BBC. Overall, Martin Tyler is probably the best.

That would be former Republic of Ireland international Andy Townsend. Born in Maidstone and raised in Bexley (Irish granny).

Yep. The same man that struggles to refer to England as 'they' and not 'we'.

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Post by spencerclarke Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:50 pm

I know hes not actually a commentator or pundit but I'm just going to through in Adrian Durham. The biggest cretin of a human being ever possibly. If he was on here he would be banned for his wummery

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:58 pm

spencerclarke wrote:I know hes not actually a commentator or pundit but I'm just going to through in Adrian Durham. The biggest cretin of a human being ever possibly. If he was on here he would be banned for his wummery

I haven't listened to Durham for a couple of years now. Is he still as annoying as ever? Drivetime was never the same after Mike Parry left. Legend that guy if not a little nuts!

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Post by spencerclarke Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:00 pm

He's just horrible. Never lets anyone else have an opinion, aggressive with callers and you just know he drags his missus round by her hair with a club shouting 'ug ug'

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Post by spencerclarke Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:01 pm

Allegedly

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:03 pm

spencerclarke wrote:He's just horrible. Never lets anyone else have an opinion, aggressive with callers and you just know he drags his missus round by her hair with a club shouting 'ug ug'

Laugh


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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Fri 16 Nov 2012, 12:55 am

super_realist wrote:Without doubt the worst ever commentator is Archie McPherson. In fact any commentator from Scotland is rubbish.
Stuart Hall makes me laugh as a reporter.

I've taken most of your critisims of the SPL in silence but you've gone too far this time SR mad

WOOOOOF!

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Post by Kay Fabe Fri 16 Nov 2012, 8:58 am

Far to far!!!!!

Paul Mitchell makes Archie look like the God of Med he truly is


WOOOOOOF

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