Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Robert Guerrero confirmed for May 4

Floyd Mayweather Jr has confirmed he will face Robert Guerrero on May 4.

Rather interestingly Mayweather has signed a 6 fight deal with ShowTime, rejecting HBO.

Guerrero and Saul Alvarez are set to be 2 of the 6 fights.

Will Khan get a shot at Mayweather as both are now on ShowTime?

Think Mayweather will lose his first fight....

Fathertime comes to everybody and he's up against a tricky, hungry guy who's roughhouse tactics might put mayweather off his game and out of his comfort zone...

Yep Guerrero by decision................

Are roughhouse tactics really Guerro's game? I know he mixed it properly with Berto but I've never had him down as that sort of fighter.

Easy win for Mayweather this, just a glorified tune up before he takes on Alvarez, a fight which he could lose.

Didn't think Mayweather would take this fight, credit to him as I think Guerrero has a style that can cause him plenty of problems. Floyd by a messy tight decision is what I'm thinking for this at the moment but I'll probably change my mind by fight time.

Floyd. Pretty easy.

6 fights?! Theres no way he'll fight six more times is there?!

ibarks250 wrote:6 fights?! Theres no way he'll fight six more times is there?!

Hopefully... But probably not.

Still shocked he's supposedly going to fight twice in one year

Floyd for me as Guerrero's more aggressive attitude of recent fights will play in to Floyd's hands. Also don't think he will lose to Alvarez either. I would hate to see it but if he fights on for too long he could be one of those greats that come unstuck to an unheralded fighter that they struggle to get up for

As many know i regard Floyd as the best boxer of his generation and a nailed on top 15 all timer by the time he is done with the sport. Do I think Guerrero is in the same league or fit enough to carry his jockstrap, hell no!!! But this could be all about timing! Some think that the Cotto fight showed signs of decline from Floyd, he certainly ate more leather than he has for years, but also lets not get this twisted that fight was tough but he beat the living daylights out of Cotto; Cotto will never recover form that, and he recovered from Magrarito's loaded gloves. However for the first time I felt that Floyds lack of mobility was not out of choice it was out of age!
Might be wrong but it might be a Cassisus Clay to Ali moment! I.e a transition in styles dictated by capabilities and not by choice. Now Ali was so good he beat some of the best ever with his new more static style, and I think Floyd is in the same vein. However Ali also became more fallible more human and more catchable! Will the same happen to Floyd, especially against a younger fighter, southpaw and throws a lot of leather with a strong mentality! Floyd has 6 fights to hold out! I have to back him..... But....

Absolutely Az!! Great post!!..........People forget you go to the well..go to the well. and then it ends up dry!!.

Mayweather of five years ago beats this guy easily..........But Guerrero is a warrior who's dirty tricks and awkward style just may beat an older Floyd....

Top 10 alltimer for me..........

azumah HOF wrote:As many know i regard Floyd as the best boxer of his generation and a nailed on top 15 all timer by the time he is done with the sport. Do I think Guerrero is in the same league or fit enough to carry his jockstrap, hell no!!! But this could be all about timing! Some think that the Cotto fight showed signs of decline from Floyd, he certainly ate more leather than he has for years, but also lets not get this twisted that fight was tough but he beat the living daylights out of Cotto; Cotto will never recover form that, and he recovered from Magrarito's loaded gloves. However for the first time I felt that Floyds lack of mobility was not out of choice it was out of age!
Might be wrong but it might be a Cassisus Clay to Ali moment! I.e a transition in styles dictated by capabilities and not by choice. Now Ali was so good he beat some of the best ever with his new more static style, and I think Floyd is in the same vein. However Ali also became more fallible more human and more catchable! Will the same happen to Floyd, especially against a younger fighter, southpaw and throws a lot of leather with a strong mentality! Floyd has 6 fights to hold out! I have to back him..... But....

I think Sugar Ray Leonard is a better exarmple for Floyd. When Leonard lost his legs he resorted to just roughing his opponants up ie Lalonde. Floyd is a little more forceful now with the action he aint waiting till the latter rounds to open up a lead.

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:

azumah HOF wrote:As many know i regard Floyd as the best boxer of his generation and a nailed on top 15 all timer by the time he is done with the sport. Do I think Guerrero is in the same league or fit enough to carry his jockstrap, hell no!!! But this could be all about timing! Some think that the Cotto fight showed signs of decline from Floyd, he certainly ate more leather than he has for years, but also lets not get this twisted that fight was tough but he beat the living daylights out of Cotto; Cotto will never recover form that, and he recovered from Magrarito's loaded gloves. However for the first time I felt that Floyds lack of mobility was not out of choice it was out of age!
Might be wrong but it might be a Cassisus Clay to Ali moment! I.e a transition in styles dictated by capabilities and not by choice. Now Ali was so good he beat some of the best ever with his new more static style, and I think Floyd is in the same vein. However Ali also became more fallible more human and more catchable! Will the same happen to Floyd, especially against a younger fighter, southpaw and throws a lot of leather with a strong mentality! Floyd has 6 fights to hold out! I have to back him..... But....

I think Sugar Ray Leonard is a better exarmple for Floyd. When Leonard lost his legs he resorted to just roughing his opponants up ie Lalonde. Floyd is a little more forceful now with the action he aint waiting till the latter rounds to open up a lead.

cant agree with Leonard as an example my old friend! Leonard was really a supreme athlete type in terms of his key attributes, added to this was a great mentality and a devilish streak. Floyd like Clay are more supreme technically and greater innovators. Hence Clay develops the rope a dope which when you look back at it was phenomenal, Clay/Ali also develops defensive prototypes like the ability to use the ropes defensively swaying back from being caught cleanly. I feel Floyd is developing a similar older fighter style, that is my take on it. I agree with Truss' view on Guerrero's threat, however i still see Floyd doing it, its just that these days i kinda have my heart in my mouth a bit more watching Floyd and I never ever had that, even when Oscar was trying to rip his head off!!!

As people have said already, one wonders how realistic a six-fight schedule can possibly be at this point of Floyd's career. At his current rate of activity, we're plotting a course some three years into the future, which is an uncertain thing to attempt at any time in boxing, leave alone when you're into your late 30s.

In the short-term, I have no problem with Guerrero as an opponent. He has constantly surprised me as he has moved up in weight, and I find it difficult to think of a welterweight who deserves a shot at Floyd more than him. In the light of everything we know, Mayweather must be the strong favourite and I still don't believe that Guerrero's style is necessarily best suited to solving the multiple problems that Floyd sets his opponent.

Down the track, yes, of course, one can envisage Floyd going to the well once too often - in many ways, it would be a surprise if he didn't, seeing as most boxers do. He will still remain somewhere between 10 and 15 in my all-time list, whatever befalls him now. I happen to believe that he doesn't have half a dozen more fights in him for one reason or another, but let's imagine that he at least fights Guerrero, Alvarez/Trout and maybe, finally, Pacquiao. It wouldn't be a bad note on which to finish one of the great careers.

Who will he face in these 6 fights providing he wins them all?

Thats the real question. Is Pac man in the mix, maybe Martinez or Canelo.

I can see Floyd's straight right landing pretty successfully on Guerrero. However Floyd has just been released from prison having served 3 months. has not fought in a year and will be 36 at the time of this fight. He may win this fight but if he goes ahead with the proposed 6 fight deal then he will lose 1 of those fights.

Does this mean Floyd is aiming to end his career a la Marciano e.g. 49-0 if he has a 6 fight TV deal?

Then again, it's more likely he intends to get to 49-0 on this TV contract and then create a HBO vs Showtime battle, where money will be thrown at him in bucket loads, to screen his attempt to go 50-0.

Guerrero, Alexander, Alvarez, Pacquiao, Khan and ending against Martinez.

I think.

mobilemaster8 wrote:Guerrero, Alexander, Alvarez, Pacquiao, Khan and ending against Martinez.

I think.

Martinez would be 91 then I think

Pretty pointless trying to decipher who Mayweather's contract will consist of fighting against; I doubt he'll box six more times in any case, and even if he does, by the time he gets round to fights three, four and so on the landscape of the 140 - 154 lb divisions will have changed, and names viable now won't be viable then, with the same applying in reverse.

As for the Guerrero fight, well I think the upset is a possibility given Mayweather's inactivity, age and drama-filled life outside of the ring. He was still in his mid thirties, fairly inactive and experiencing some aggro away from boxing for the Ortiz and Cotto fights as well, of course, but I never thought either of them were at the right stage of their careers, or were in possession of the right tools, to take advantage of this. Guerrero, on the other hand, just might be.

That said, my prediction right now would be that Mayweather will win a decision, but only a close one - and possibly even a midly contentious one - with some difficult moments along the way, ala Whitaker-Rivera I. Similarities between Whitaker and Floyd, similarities between Rivera and Guerrero and I think history might just be repeating itself somewhat. I see Mayweather now as a similar entity to the Whitaker of around 1996; still excellent, but not as dominant or primed as they used to be and starting to look vulnerable.

While I don't think Guerrero quite has enough to get the win, I do think he'll show that Mayweather is a little bit on the downside and give the younger generation some hope that they could be the man to usurp Floyd if they time their run correctly.

azumah HOF wrote:As many know i regard Floyd as the best boxer of his generation and a nailed on top 15 all timer by the time he is done with the sport. Do I think Guerrero is in the same league or fit enough to carry his jockstrap, hell no!!! But this could be all about timing! Some think that the Cotto fight showed signs of decline from Floyd, he certainly ate more leather than he has for years, but also lets not get this twisted that fight was tough but he beat the living daylights out of Cotto; Cotto will never recover form that, and he recovered from Magrarito's loaded gloves. However for the first time I felt that Floyds lack of mobility was not out of choice it was out of age!
Might be wrong but it might be a Cassisus Clay to Ali moment! I.e a transition in styles dictated by capabilities and not by choice. Now Ali was so good he beat some of the best ever with his new more static style, and I think Floyd is in the same vein. However Ali also became more fallible more human and more catchable! Will the same happen to Floyd, especially against a younger fighter, southpaw and throws a lot of leather with a strong mentality! Floyd has 6 fights to hold out! I have to back him..... But....

What laughable baloney. Wasn't a patch on Marg's (loaded) destruction. Cotto's biggest pyschological defeat was not the 'beating' he did/did not sustain, it was the horrendously biased calling of the fight and the one sided cards that were way to harsh on him from memory. He certainly never won the fight, but he took more rounds than he was given - hence his storming from ring.

What will Floyd do with all that money?

Thats the real ?

I can just about envisage Floyd's last fight being Broner for an amount of money that will make your eyes water. He's not called "Money" for nothing.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

azumah HOF wrote:As many know i regard Floyd as the best boxer of his generation and a nailed on top 15 all timer by the time he is done with the sport. Do I think Guerrero is in the same league or fit enough to carry his jockstrap, hell no!!! But this could be all about timing! Some think that the Cotto fight showed signs of decline from Floyd, he certainly ate more leather than he has for years, but also lets not get this twisted that fight was tough but he beat the living daylights out of Cotto; Cotto will never recover form that, and he recovered from Magrarito's loaded gloves. However for the first time I felt that Floyds lack of mobility was not out of choice it was out of age!
Might be wrong but it might be a Cassisus Clay to Ali moment! I.e a transition in styles dictated by capabilities and not by choice. Now Ali was so good he beat some of the best ever with his new more static style, and I think Floyd is in the same vein. However Ali also became more fallible more human and more catchable! Will the same happen to Floyd, especially against a younger fighter, southpaw and throws a lot of leather with a strong mentality! Floyd has 6 fights to hold out! I have to back him..... But....

What laughable baloney. Wasn't a patch on Marg's (loaded) destruction. Cotto's biggest pyschological defeat was not the 'beating' he did/did not sustain, it was the horrendously biased calling of the fight and the one sided cards that were way to harsh on him from memory. He certainly never won the fight, but he took more rounds than he was given - hence his storming from ring.

ODD!!!!

BTW if Cotto is ever the same fighter again i will happily buy u ur dream retirement home in the Seychelles! Same as happened to Hatton, career ending beating!!

Hatton's was defining because he took his '0'. That broke Hatton psychologically. Cotto was already past that and had built himself back up nicely after the injustice of his beating (actual beating, not the make-believe Poopie you saw v Mayweather) at Marg's plaster-wrapped hands.

Maybe he won't be back, but it won't because Floyd did anything to humiliate him.

agree with tophat. cotto was finished long before the mayweather fight, and has never been the same since the first margarito fight. to be honest it was a closer fight against mosley than many care to remember that gave cotto elite status.

against cotto was probably the first time i didnt turn off a mayweather fight spouting off about how awesome he boxed. he looked like half the boxer we saw against hatton. trout won very comfortably against cotto, and made cotto look extremely poor at times. i dont think guerrero will beat mayweather. his attitude will do him no favours when fighting mayweathers favourble refs and judges(not that hes needed them in the past) and i think hes likely to lose his head in a dirty and controversial fight.

alvarez or martinez would have a great chance against mayweather at the moment, and trout i think would beat him for sure.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Hatton's was defining because he took his '0'. That broke Hatton psychologically. Cotto was already past that and had built himself back up nicely after the injustice of his beating (actual beating, not the make-believe Poopie you saw v Mayweather) at Marg's plaster-wrapped hands.

Maybe he won't be back, but it won't because Floyd did anything to humiliate him.

I'm not talking about psychology, hasn't been mentioned once! I'm talking physically! There is a physical type of beating you tke from hot you don't see nd with a regularity that dull the reaction and senses! Let's put it this way have you watched Cotto's last outing since looking resilient against Floyd? Enough said!

Well if it's just physical beating you're talking about then it genuinely is absolute rubbish. Mayweather's was nothing compared to Marg who hits harder even without the wraps.

Margarito hits hard!!! Marg is a puncher !!!!! Lmaooooooooooooooo!!!! Ok I'll let you do the research go google and see who Cotto said hit him harder out of Manny and Floyd!!! Marg doesn't even come into to it! But if I am talking to someone who has Marg down as a puncher, this is the definition of futility I'm afraid!!! Good evening and goodnight!!!!!

oh dear somebody is getting a bit riled. flloyd ended cottos career? maybe trout was just too good for him? as was pacman and mayweather. no point trying to hide your fanboy attitude behind faintly disguised criticisms of flloyd and then blowing your wod at the suggestion cotto was finished before flloyd fought him.

azumah HOF wrote:Margarito hits hard!!! Marg is a puncher !!!!! Lmaooooooooooooooo!!!! Ok I'll let you do the research go google and see who Cotto said hit him harder out of Manny and Floyd!!! Marg doesn't even come into to it! But if I am talking to someone who has Marg down as a puncher, this is the definition of futility I'm afraid!!! Good evening and goodnight!!!!!

How did I forget about Pac! Another man that hits substantially harder than Floyd and produce a much more systematic destruction of Cotto than PBF did. Not even in the same league. Certainly more damaging than 'Mr UD unless it's a sucker-punch' Mayweather.