Tonights Fight Thread.

by **hampo17** Sat 06 Jul 2013, 8:29 am

First topic message reminder :

Redemption is here. David Price has the chance to gain revenge over Tony Thompson, and I have gone on record during this weeks podcast, saying Thompson will win again.

We also have Prizefighter: The Light Welterweights. Kevin Mitchell will also be appearing on the bill.

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by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 07 Jul 2013, 1:20 pm

Struggle to see where he goes

He's always has questions about his mentality and has looked like a rabbit in the headlines in his 2 biggest fights to date in his Olympic final and in a rematch which he needed to win

He demanded this fight and honestly thought that he could win, but that will hurt him even more and if he was distraught after the first one then this could finish him

Everyone will know that you can rush him and he may fold unde totes sure now and he will know himself that he isn't durable and can succum to pressure

He can continue, he's proven he can blast out domestic level fighters and is dangerous to EVERY heavyweight with that power in his right hand but he's very unlikely to become a world champion now

by J.Benson II Sun 07 Jul 2013, 1:43 pm

An immediate rematch was an awful idea to begin with as it put Price under enormous pressure to win.

Not sure where Price goes from here. He may be an experienced operator, but a +40 year old Thompson who was coming off a one sided beat-down defeat is not the type of opponent someone who has word title aspirations should be losing to once, let alone twice.
He can go back on the domestic scene, knock out some cans. But he'll still eventually need to step up and it remains to be seen if he can be successful the next time he does so.

He's a big guy with a great right hand. However, there is little else in terms of attributes. Being big and having power might be enough against guys like Audley, but it won't be enough against better opposition.
Trying to replicate Wlad's style is far easier said than done, otherwise every big guy would be HW champion material.

by Mayweathers cellmate Sun 07 Jul 2013, 2:07 pm

Where does he go from here - best of 5 with Thompson? Price is finished, expect to see him in the next Prizefighter.

by KingMonkey Sun 07 Jul 2013, 2:09 pm

Very little to add to what has been said already but I definitely agree with the points raised about him lacking energy due to nervous tension. That's fair enough but its also as much of a flaw as lacking technique, if anything its worse. You can correct technique to a point but if someone is going to work themselves up to the point where they can't box more than 4 rounds then they are screwed.

Whenever I see a boxer moving too much early on (a six foot eight man bouncing on his toes is just ludicrous) I worry for them. Keeping that up for 12 rounds would be tough if you weren't up against an opponent but to be punched about at the same time.... Its superhuman. And Price is not that.

Its a shame as he's likable but to come back from this, if possible, will take years and years. God only knows what he does in that time.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 07 Jul 2013, 2:15 pm

It's funny that people a calling him rubbish, telling him to retire etc... Why?

Other than Fury and Haye, who in Britain would beat him? Sensationalist clap trap if you ask me.

by KingMonkey Sun 07 Jul 2013, 2:31 pm

Chisora. But that's not the point because you're probably right. He needs to be brought on slowly now with his oppo carefully selected if he's to stand a chance.

by compelling and rich Sun 07 Jul 2013, 2:34 pm

not sure chisoras got the punch to trouble him. i think chisora is a good fight next durable enough to test price gas tank without having real knock out power. if he's getting beat by the likes of chisora then he realy does need a re-think

by eddyfightfan Sun 07 Jul 2013, 3:03 pm

chisora is all wrong for price, will just pressure him from the get go and push price into the later rounds, then stop him.

price needs to do some work in the gym before he is ready to compete at higher levels.

by compelling and rich Sun 07 Jul 2013, 3:07 pm

yeah but he plods forward and isnt exactly hard to miss, despite prices fault he does posses lots of power and chisora despite being durable wont be able to take too much for too long. would favor price but its no gimme, if he's serious about learning and wanting to challenge for world honours after the klits have gone i think this is the type of fight he needs. he's not going to learn anything from knocking out tin cans again

perhaps give him one gimme in between to build up a bit of confidence again

by tunes666 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:07 pm

Reflecting on the fight more and Ignoring all the clear hater comments I am not completely convinced he is over. He seemed to prove that his chin was not made of china like many liked to make out, but in the same fight showed he seemed to lack the conditioning to last in a competitive fight, and also the mental strength. At his age it is a worry yeah but by no means void of any hope.

I do think the idea of having two trainers is wrong. He needs to settle with one guy, and pick few easy fighters to shake off the hoodoo..

In hind sight, this rematch was always a disaster. Not because I think Thompson is too much of a challenge for Price but because it was too much of a mental obstacle for Price to take at this point in time. In fact taking the rematch, his look before the fight and the way he fought all rang of a lack of composure and patience.

If Price can get back on his feet, wins are always steps forward and if he can keep winning again then at some stage he will poke his nose back in the mix and get another shot to prove him self as a decent fighter.

by djlovesyou Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:10 pm

Bit too pragmatic and sensible there tunes. Not sure this is the place for you.

by tunes666 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:13 pm

djlovesyou wrote:Bit too pragmatic and sensible there tunes. Not sure this is the place for you.

lol will keep it in mind mate Wink

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:26 pm

Just imagine if it was Fury who got slapped silly by a fat old man twice. You muppets would be having a field day. The simple truth is that price lacks the basic fundamentals to make it. The warning signs were there when old man Skelton bum rushed him. He floundered like a fish out of water. A mire skilled operator would have taken him out.

Chisora would do him after price quits late on.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:30 pm

Thank god that Fury hasn't set the alarm bells ringing. He's handled all his opponents with relative ease.

by **seanmichaels** Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:45 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:It's funny that people a calling him rubbish, telling him to retire etc... Why.

You talking about mackem or price?

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:48 pm

If anything Fury should be fuming

Imagine how good a win over price (still not sure he wins as he's pretty chinny too) would look on his record but he ran from that fight and now the demand for that fight is non existent now

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 07 Jul 2013, 8:51 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:It's funny that people a calling him rubbish, telling him to retire etc... Why.

You talking about mackem or price?

Price...

Mackem is useless. An oxygen thief one might say...

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:14 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:If anything Fury should be fuming

Imagine how good a win over price (still not sure he wins as he's pretty chinny too) would look on his record but he ran from that fight and now the demand for that fight is non existent now

Err when the fight could have been made ie when they were both on sky Price turned it down. Only when it was impossible to make was the fight offerred. C5 would not allow Fury to fight Price on any channel other than C5. I suspect maloney jnew that and usef Fury to promote price.

Fact is Price ducked the initial offer.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:19 pm

by **hampo17** Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:32 pm

Didn't Price allow the fight to go to purse bids?

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:52 pm

Purse bids are irrelevant if tv won't allow the fight.

Jack when you surpasse neanderthal stage of evolution come back to me.

by **hampo17** Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:57 pm

Hardly a duck though was it. Price was signed to Sky just like Fury was signed to C5.

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 9:59 pm

When they were both on sky tean fury offered to fight price. Maloney rejected it. Duck?

by **hampo17** Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:18 pm

Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:21 pm

hampo171 wrote:Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

Not fair using irrefutable facts in your argument, Hampo.

by tunes666 Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:33 pm

azania wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:If anything Fury should be fuming

Imagine how good a win over price (still not sure he wins as he's pretty chinny too) would look on his record but he ran from that fight and now the demand for that fight is non existent now

Err when the fight could have been made ie when they were both on sky Price turned it down. Only when it was impossible to make was the fight offerred. C5 would not allow Fury to fight Price on any channel other than C5. I suspect maloney jnew that and usef Fury to promote price.

Fact is Price ducked the initial offer.

Channel 5 do not have that power, they would either be given the choice to air the fight or would be entitled to a share of profits from who ever does air the fight, particularly if it was a pay per view fight. with your argument then Haye and Fury wont be able to fight.

by Strongback Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:40 pm

Price can come back. He needs a new coach with a proven track record at world level.

Easy to say now but taking on Thompson really was a massive risk that blew up in Maloney's face.

Price has only had 15 fights, he should go back to knocking over British/Euro level fighters for the next 18 months and then mount a title shot or take on Haye or Fury if they are still big money fights.

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:53 pm

hampo171 wrote:Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

So what channel would have aired the fight?

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 10:57 pm

tunes666 wrote:
azania wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:If anything Fury should be fuming

Imagine how good a win over price (still not sure he wins as he's pretty chinny too) would look on his record but he ran from that fight and now the demand for that fight is non existent now

Err when the fight could have been made ie when they were both on sky Price turned it down. Only when it was impossible to make was the fight offerred. C5 would not allow Fury to fight Price on any channel other than C5. I suspect maloney jnew that and usef Fury to promote price.

Fact is Price ducked the initial offer.

Channel 5 do not have that power, they would either be given the choice to air the fight or would be entitled to a share of profits from who ever does air the fight, particularly if it was a pay per view fight. with your argument then Haye and Fury wont be able to fight.

So who would have aired the fight? It reminded me of the HBO Showtime standoff where it became near on impossible for rival fighters to fight.

The Haye fight is different as you say. C5 will have a share of the profits. The price fight was not worth it. But hey, you guys think boxing is full of noble people who put the sport and fans before profit.

by azania Sun 07 Jul 2013, 11:02 pm

Strongback wrote:Price can come back. He needs a new coach with a proven track record at world level.

Easy to say now but taking on Thompson really was a massive risk that blew up in Maloney's face.

Price has only had 15 fights, he should go back to knocking over British/Euro level fighters for the next 18 months and then mount a title shot or take on Haye or Fury if they are still big money fights.

Your right in that he should have been knocking over bums for the next 18 months. But ignorant fans wantef him and any prispect to run before they learn how to walk properly.

by manos de piedra Sun 07 Jul 2013, 11:53 pm

To be fair, its only with hindsight that Prices matchmaking looks bad. HE was knocking out the domestics with ease so a step up was always on the cards. Thompson was a risk but it was hardly a major risk given how Price had been dealing with his opponents and that Thompson was an aged fighter that was more or less finished as a title contender. I dont have any issue with the original match being made and there was near unanimous feeling Price would win. I think the wisdom of the rushing into a second fight can be questioned, as well as the bringing Lewis on board. Price looked awful in the second fight for a variety of reasons.

by KC Mon 08 Jul 2013, 4:55 am

You would have thought that at the very least Lewis would have taught him how to stick the jab, that was all I kept screaming @ TV screen - what was he doing waving his left hand in front of his face? Trying to hypnotise Thompson? At one stage they looked like they were going to join hands & dance out of the ring Hug

As previously mentioned I cannot believe he gassed after only 4 rounds - not like he was throwing 100 punches a round!

by **hampo17** Mon 08 Jul 2013, 8:35 am

azania wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

So what channel would have aired the fight?

As you said Az, they where both on Sky.

by bhb001 Mon 08 Jul 2013, 8:40 am

Agree with manos and the re-match should never have been made so hastely. Is this the end of his career? No, but anyone expecting him to challenge for the world title in the next 3 to 4 years should be questioning their sanity. At best, he is now consigned to European level and someone to get through on your way to better things. Still good money to be made though.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:27 am

Fury said and I quote "I am moving onto bigger and better things"....that is avoiding the Price fight.

To fight Martin Rogan after saying that is pure comedy gold!!!

by azania Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:36 am

hampo171 wrote:
azania wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

So what channel would have aired the fight?

As you said Az, they where both on Sky.

Fury was with C5 then. An offer was made to price when they were both with sky but team price turned it down.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:51 am

Team Price turning it down and the fight was ordered for purse bids.....Fury then gave up his belts to avoid the fight being made. What's so hard for you to understand about that Az? He has a mountain of a task against Martin Rogan to see too Laugh

by TopHat24/7 Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:52 am

azania wrote:After fury retires Haye you guys will come up with some new excuses. A fat and out of shape 41 year old man flattened price in two rounds and repeated the trick. Fury will beat Thompson with ease. A far more intelligent boxer with vastly superior stamina and skills.

Fury is like Floyd compared to the chump that is price.

You really are an epic chump-stain.

Should've known it'd take a Price thread/loss to get you back out from under your rock.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 08 Jul 2013, 9:58 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
azania wrote:After fury retires Haye you guys will come up with some new excuses. A fat and out of shape 41 year old man flattened price in two rounds and repeated the trick. Fury will beat Thompson with ease. A far more intelligent boxer with vastly superior stamina and skills.

Fury is like Floyd compared to the chump that is price.

You really are an epic chump-stain.

Should've known it'd take a Price thread/loss to get you back out from under your rock.

by TopHat24/7 Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:06 am

hampo171 wrote:Oh, wait. You mean the mean the time they allowed it to to purse bids and Tyson ditched the belts?

Which time was that? He's done it twice now.

Please do try be more specific Hampo.

by azania Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:12 am

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Team Price turning it down and the fight was ordered for purse bids.....Fury then gave up his belts to avoid the fight being made. What's so hard for you to understand about that Az? He has a mountain of a task against Martin Rogan to see too

Why ignore the elephant in the room? When the fight was easy to make it didn't happen. When it became impossible to make team price found their collective balls and put in a bid probably with the full knowledge that the fight couldn't happen because of conflicting tv interests.

by azania Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:13 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
azania wrote:After fury retires Haye you guys will come up with some new excuses. A fat and out of shape 41 year old man flattened price in two rounds and repeated the trick. Fury will beat Thompson with ease. A far more intelligent boxer with vastly superior stamina and skills.

Fury is like Floyd compared to the chump that is price.

You really are an epic chump-stain.

Should've known it'd take a Price thread/loss to get you back out from under your rock.

And I love you too xx

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:16 am

Why does the elephant have to be white? More racism from Az....I thought you had changed!!! Sad

by TopHat24/7 Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:21 am

azania wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Team Price turning it down and the fight was ordered for purse bids.....Fury then gave up his belts to avoid the fight being made. What's so hard for you to understand about that Az? He has a mountain of a task against Martin Rogan to see too

Why ignore the elephant in the room? When the fight was easy to make it didn't happen. When it became impossible to make team price found their collective balls and put in a bid probably with the full knowledge that the fight couldn't happen because of conflicting tv interests.

The TV situation was identical when Team Fury made its offer as it was when Team Price said purse bids.

No elephant there, just one you're inventing to carry on your WUM charade.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:27 am

Is the white elephant Mick Hennessy?

by tommyhearnsprodigalson Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:35 am

I couldn't believe what i was seeing, i've never had a problem with the fight being made or the rematch happening straight away, what i do have a problem with is the way Price gassed after 3rounds, it was a disgrace!!, i've no idea what happened in training, did he just think he'd turn up and roll Thompson over, just like the first fight............IF he had a decent engine he probably would of won the fight by stoppage around round 8, as the arm punches Thompson was throwing shouldn't of been having the effect they were,

It's going to be a long hard road back for Price

by azania Mon 08 Jul 2013, 10:49 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
azania wrote:
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Team Price turning it down and the fight was ordered for purse bids.....Fury then gave up his belts to avoid the fight being made. What's so hard for you to understand about that Az? He has a mountain of a task against Martin Rogan to see too

Why ignore the elephant in the room? When the fight was easy to make it didn't happen. When it became impossible to make team price found their collective balls and put in a bid probably with the full knowledge that the fight couldn't happen because of conflicting tv interests.

The TV situation was identical when Team Fury made its offer as it was when Team Price said purse bids.

No elephant there, just one you're inventing to carry on your WUM charade.

In that case why not accuse price of ducking? He could have come up to C5 and increased his fan base. Now he's a loser who no one knows. Fact is that the fight couldn't be made for boxing political reasons which is all too common. But muppets like to hate on the undefeated Fury.

by TopHat24/7 Mon 08 Jul 2013, 11:18 am

Ermmmmmmmmmmm maybe because he didn't duck? Maybe because he said, "Yes, let's fight, see you at purse bids". Maybe because he wasn't the one to chuck his titles in the bin rather than fight?

Keep clowning Az, if that's what turns you on, but everyone can see through it.

by azania Mon 08 Jul 2013, 11:27 am

Of course.

Pity your failed hero hasn't learned how to duck....a punch.

Bottom line is neither ducked. The fight was stalled because of conflicting tv interests. But keep banging the Fury ducked drum if it gives you a hard on.

by Strongback Mon 08 Jul 2013, 11:28 am

manos de piedra wrote:To be fair, its only with hindsight that Prices matchmaking looks bad. HE was knocking out the domestics with ease so a step up was always on the cards. Thompson was a risk but it was hardly a major risk given how Price had been dealing with his opponents and that Thompson was an aged fighter that was more or less finished as a title contender. I dont have any issue with the original match being made and there was near unanimous feeling Price would win. I think the wisdom of the rushing into a second fight can be questioned, as well as the bringing Lewis on board. Price looked awful in the second fight for a variety of reasons.

Price proved the old maxim again : "More is learned in defeat than in victory".

A fighter that can take a good shot has Price in trouble.

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