Tyson Fury - Still overweight

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This is his picture he posted today, I know the fight is still a few weeks away but you can't help but feel he still needs a kick up the a$$. He's got massive love handles despite saying he's training almost every day for the fight at the moment. Although he has improved the last 12-18 months, I still think that mentally he's not where he should be. With a more professional outlook he wouldn't be overweight like this. All the top guys keep themselves in good nick

Think we should not lose sight of the fact this is a boxing match and not Mr Universe. Bruno always turned up looking like he was carved out of marble but was hardly renowned for his stamina, on the other side of the coin Larry Holmes never exactly looked cut but you only need to watch him in with Norton to see he could fight a decent old lick for 15 rounds.

No excuse for carrying the amount of fat he is though Rowley. It isn't a tactic of his to look like a walking heart attack, it's because of his pure laziness and pizza addiction.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Sorry Strongy but that is a load of rubbish. Fury is fat, plain and simple. He has got bigger hips than a pregnant women, awful shape. And his belly is disgusting too, rolls of fat. Shambolic.

Fury has somewhere between 15 and 20 per cent body fat and I don't see rolls of fat on his stomach. The pose he is trying to hit, failing miserably in his attempt, is adding to how thick his waist looks around the obliques.

As I said if he cuts 4 or 5% body fat in the next 4 weeks he'll look ok. He has about a stone to lose. He has added muscle around his shoulders I reckon.

I'm with Strongy on this one, think there's a little over-kill on the weight derison here.

Maybe he has an underactive thyroid. 3 fatties at work suffer from this surprisingly common illness(?).

I'd say he looks more 25% but I guess it's all speculation at this stage. He certainly should be in better shape though.

You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

 Very good.

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Pedro147 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Thought it was DSS

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Thought it was DSS

Surely that's only 2?!

neilodonnell wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Thought it was DSS

Surely that's only 2?!

He was referring to the acronym that is in bold.

Can't remember ever seeing a six-pack on Wlad or Vitali ??

Pacing is so slow at heavy as long as he's in half decent shape I can't see the problem......

Like I said the ring was shaking when Witherspoon fought Tubbs but they went a sharp 15........

bhb001 wrote:

neilodonnell wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Thought it was DSS

Surely that's only 2?!

He was referring to the acronym that is in bold.

DSS is only 2 letters - D once and S twice.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

neilodonnell wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

Pedro147 wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:You'd have to believe he'd be trainign harder than ever for this fight and dieting correctly. This is his biggest challenge to date and a thumpingly massive fight, the hard graft is generally around now when they're training for fights so I imagine he's going to be seriously pushng it, otherwise he's heading for a very early KO.

Or a very early KFC

First three letters he was taught in the alphabet.

Thought it was DSS

Surely that's only 2?!

He was referring to the acronym that is in bold.

DSS is only 2 letters - D once and S twice.

No it's three letters...D is one letter, S is another letter and S is still another irrespective of whether or not it's been used before.

If you had 3 x £10 in you wallet, would you say you only had a tenner cos the others were duplicates?

If I had 3 x £10 in my wallet...I'd say I'd found the perfect hiding place for it..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:If I had 3 x £10 in my wallet...I'd say I'd found the perfect hiding place for it..

Too true, amazed how my wallet has now been sucked into the vortex known as "the joint account!"

Why would you teach someone the same letter twice?

Once it's taught it's taught. Therefore 'the first three letters he was taught' have to, by definition, be exclusive of eachother.

Perhaps he forgot S the first time.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Why would you teach someone the same letter twice?
Once it's taught it's taught.  Therefore 'the first three letters he was taught' have to, by definition, be exclusive of eachother.

Perhaps he's so thick he forgot and had to be re-taught...this is Fury we're talking about.

Gypsy John : What's this, Tyson?

Tyson : D

GJF : Very good, now what is this?

TF : S

GJF : Yes, now what is this?

TF : Don't know

GJF : It was S

TF : I forgot

GJF : Now what is this?

TF : S?

GJF : Yes, well done.

TF : Thanks Dad.

GJF : Now get back to training, the Haye fight is only a few weeks away now.

In fairness to him though.....We all went to University...and have to work in boring jobs...

This guy sneaks past a Cruiser...acts like a muppet and will be worth millions soon.........

If I were 6'9" and had a ridiculous name like Tyson Fury I'm sure I could've done the same.

Those two factors, each outside of his control, have more to do with his success than anything else.

David Price hasn't...You suggesting he should call himself Tyson Price ??

TopHat24/7 wrote:If I were 6'9" and had a ridiculous name like Tyson Fury I'm sure I could've done the same.

Those two factors, each outside of his control, have more to do with his success than anything else.

It is a silly name, the very first time I came across it I thought Mike was angry about something.

Nevertheless, there are plenty of tall people with silly names who are not millionaires, you have to give him a little bit of credit for his boxing ability TH?

His real name is Luke Fury.

Strongback wrote:His real name is Luke Fury.  

Urban myth.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=479205&cat=boxer

Ok, maybe I've gone back the other way with the harshness. But let's face it, he is not that good. And saying 'there are plenty of tall people' undersells it, I am tall (6'3") Fury is giant at 6'9", only a tiny tiny fraction of the population are that height.

Add in a ridiculous name with a nod to boxing greats like 'Rocky Bollockbuster' or 'Cassius Claypotsmasher' and you've got a lot of the breaking through hard work done.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:David Price hasn't...You suggesting he should call himself Tyson Price ??

If he had one of the aforementioned names his PR would be miles better and if he had Tyson's chin (again, a factor Tyson didn't pick/work-on) he'd be as successful if not more so.

There is a fighter in America currently called Ray Robinson, who to the best of my knowledge is not yet pulling in seven figure purses. I agree Fury's earnings and profile are in complete disproportion to his talents but he has to take some credit for himself. He is a master at self promotion.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:David Price hasn't...You suggesting he should call himself Tyson Price ??

If he had one of the aforementioned names his PR would be miles better and if he had Tyson's chin (again, a factor Tyson didn't pick/work-on) he'd be as successful if not more so.

Price problems were more to do with matchmaking...........Think Fury's charisma has something to do with it....

He's white as well which helps..

Rowley wrote:There is a fighter in America currently called Ray Robinson, who to the best of my knowledge is not yet pulling in seven figure purses. I agree Fury's earnings and profile are in complete disproportion to his talents but he has to take some credit for himself. He is a master at self promotion.

Is he a giant freak also??

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:David Price hasn't...You suggesting he should call himself Tyson Price ??

If he had one of the aforementioned names his PR would be miles better and if he had Tyson's chin (again, a factor Tyson didn't pick/work-on) he'd be as successful if not more so.

Price problems were more to do with matchmaking...........Think Fury's charisma has something to do with it....

He's white as well which helps..

1. Price and Fury are both white, so that's not a differentiating factor.

2. If we're talking more general, and bringing skin colour into this, I'd say quite the opposite. This isn't the 1910's, you've said yourself America is the boxing mealticket and I think America would LOVE a big black HW superstar to rival their past greats. It's just they've been serving up dross for a decade or so and NFL keeps stealing all the best physical specimins.

I think hearing the name Tyson stirs the imagination of the general public.  

Lets face it Ray Robinson never went to jail for r***, bit somebodies ear off and got a big tattoo on his face.  Tyson didn't burrow his way into our primeval subconscious, he smashed the doors in.

Strongback wrote:I think hearing the name Tyson stirs the imagination of the general public.  

Lets face it Ray Robinson never went to jail for r***, bit somebodies ear off and got a big tattoo on his face.  Tyson didn't burrow his way into our primeval subconscious, he smashed the doors in.

He may have smashed your back doors in. I nipped out to empty the bins and discovered he'd snuck in a stolen my telly

He has made a good wedge out his abilities, which we all consider to be limited. (Unless your name is Wi .. no I am not going there). I for one do not begrudge him that. I have far too many chips on my shoulder to add jealousy to it! Good luck to the guy.

i must have been away on the day we all turned into women, gossiping about weight without any real facts.

OasisBFC wrote:i must have been away on the day we all turned into women, gossiping about weight without any real facts.

Whilst I'm sure none of us are end-of-pier conartists who can tell a woman's weight by looking at her, it's pretty clear from the picture Fury tweeted that he's not in the condition you'd expect him to be with such a big fight looming. Some posters have suggested that Fury isn't overweight, he's just standing at a funny angle trying to pose. However, the vast majority of posters believe that he's a pretty poor excuse for an athlete.

Yes, there's no real corrolation between what you look like and how well you fight but having already seen Fury fight, it would be wise for him to work on his conditioning as he lacks the actually boxing ability to beat David Haye with that alone.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&q=wladimir+klitschko

look at these pictures. This is what you should look like to compete at the very highest level. Big frames, muscle bound arms, 6 packs and not fattness.

Strongback wrote:I think hearing the name Tyson stirs the imagination of the general public.  

Lets face it Ray Robinson never went to jail for r***, bit somebodies ear off and got a big tattoo on his face.  Tyson didn't burrow his way into our primeval subconscious, he smashed the doors in.

Barry George went to prison for murder.........Let's be honest it wasn't the greatest case against Tyson in the World.........If you don't like him he's a r***ist......If you're more openminded he was shockingly defended and his money was good enough for Miss washington after....

Not saying he didn't r*** her... but a black man in a conservative state..etc..........

He's only got about 8 weeks to make the weight limit.

The difference, in my opinion, is that Tyson hasn't come up against a stubborn and world class opponent like Tony Thompson.

Chisora was at his very worst when Tyson beat him. Johnson didn't come to fight at all.

You beat what is in front of you..

And you get the according amount of credit.

Knocking over a pile of useless washed up old nobodies gets you little to know credit, whether you 'beat whats in front of you' or not.

Fact is KM is right in that Tyson hasn't fought anyone of TT's calibre yet. All he's done is make hard night's works out of easy fights, conning some people into believing he's thought a decent level of opposition.

mobilemaster8 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&q=wladimir+klitschko

look at these pictures. This is what you should look like to compete at the very highest level. Big frames, muscle bound arms, 6 packs and not fattness.

i haven't looked at the link, but are you describing bruno?

calzaghe never had a 6 pack but could throw more punches for 12 rounds then his apparently in shape opponents.

OasisBFC wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=isch&q=wladimir+klitschko

look at these pictures. This is what you should look like to compete at the very highest level. Big frames, muscle bound arms, 6 packs and not fattness.

i haven't looked at the link, but are you describing bruno?

calzaghe never had a 6 pack but could throw more punches for 12 rounds then his apparently in shape opponents.

But if we're relating this back to Fury, Calzaghe never looked like he was carrying more than a few extra pounds. Also, those who visited Calzaghe at his gym were never in any doubt that he possessed the engine to go twelve hard rounds. It's not something many have said about Fury.

Has Fury been shown to have stamina problems?

Maybe in the first McDermott fight. He still kept on fighting though.

The funny thing is many people believe Fury's size advantage is his main weapon, yet on the flip side we are criticising him for being overweight , him being overweight may be a tactic.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:David Price hasn't...You suggesting he should call himself Tyson Price ??

If he had one of the aforementioned names his PR would be miles better and if he had Tyson's chin (again, a factor Tyson didn't pick/work-on) he'd be as successful if not more so.

I think he does have Fury's chin to be honest.

Anyway every bit of evidence in boxing points to maintaining something close to your optimum weight between fights is beneficial and spare fat does not help. Unless Fury gets cancer he will be bigger than Haye, regardless of how hard he trains.

How much of that mass will be dead weight he could do without is down to his training.