Ulster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors, 13 September

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Ulster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors
 
Friday 13th September 2013, KO 19:05
Ravenhill Stadium, Belfast
 
Referee: Ian Davies (WRU, 9th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Gary Conway, Kevin Beggs (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: John West (IRFU)
TMO: Peter Ferguson (IRFU)

Live on BBC NI and BBC ALBA
 
A. Teams:
 
1. Ulster  
 
15 J Payne
14 D McIlwaine
13 D Cave
12 L Marshall
11 M Allen
10 P Jackson
09 I Porter
 
01. C Black
02 R Herring
03 D Fitzpatrick
04 J Muller (Captain)
05 D Tuohy
06 R Wilson
07 S Doyle
08 N Williams
 
16. N Annett
17. T Court
18. R Lutton
19. I Henderson
20. C Henry
21. P Marshall
22. J McKinney
23.  R Andrew

 
2. Glasgow  
 
15. Stuart Hogg
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Sean Lamont
12. Mark Bennett
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Ruaridh Jackson
9. Henry Pyrgos (Captain)
 
01. Ryan Grant  
02. Pat MacArthur
03. Ed Kalman
04. Tim Swinson
05. Jonny Gray
06. Rob Harley
07. Tyrone Holmes
08. Josh Strauss
 
16. Dougie Hall
17. Gordon Reid
18. Moray Low
19. James Eddie  
20. Chris Fusaro
21. Richie Vernon
22. Chris Cusiter
23. Gabriel Ascarate
 
B. Form - head to head:
 
27 Played 27
15 Wins 11
11 Losses 15
1 Draws 1
49 Tries 43
31 Conversions 29
71 Penalties 64
2 Drop Goals 7
526 Points 486
26 Avg. Age 26
 
C. Form - last season:
 
Friday 31 August 2012, 19:05: Ravenhill
Ulster Rugby 18 - 10 Glasgow Warriors
 
Friday 22 February 2013, 19:35: Scotstoun
Glasgow Warriors 20 - 14 Ulster Rugby
 
D. Glasgow fans lexicon:
 
Time on these boards has demonstrated that Glasgow fans use an uncommonly broad selection of nicknames and slang to describe the various members of their team.
 
For those unfamiliar with this gibberish:
 
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/   - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)

If the ball hits the flag is it still in? Genuinely wondering?

Yeah it's still in

Terrible kick from Jackson.
And terrible yellow card call from the ref. we've hardly conceded a penalty this half, and a yellow card?

I don't know actually.

I know you ignore it when a player hits it so...

You really don't think that was a YC?

Tbh no. Stupid play yes. But not in a dangerous place. Our discipline has been very good this half, with a low count, especially considering how one sided the game has been. Seemed unwarranted.

It was cynical play.

Ref! Why would we want to collapse that scrum????

MrsP wrote:It was cynical play.

Not as cynical as a high tackle, less then a metre out from the try line...

GLove39 wrote:Ref! Why would we want to collapse that scrum????

Extraordinary decision - one side had blatantly turned that in, one side remained straight

Wow

 

What

James Eddie for MOTM.

How in the name of all that is wonderful did we lose that?

 

Well done Glasgow.

Defended like trojans.

 

I cannot think of a better riposte to the earlier booing

I can't believe it. Awful, awful stuff.

True warrior spirit shown there!    

MrsP wrote:How in the name of all that is wonderful did we lose that?

 

Well done Glasgow.

Defended like trojans.

 

Indeed, MrsP, like Spartans even, altho both were eventually overrun! Nonetheless, the Weege had to, with a far more bullish and direct game from Ulster

I feel the need to apologise to the Ulster fans for that win

We came we defended, we defended, we defended we rode our luck and we won the game. 

cakeordeath wrote:I feel the need to apologise to the Ulster fans for that win

 

Congratulations to Glasgow, although we had the possession stats, you certainly deserved it. Great defence, and fought hard for the win.

Just phoned the PSNI to report a robbery!

Wow, what a crazy ending! I think Gordon Reid deserves a big mention for that try, he consistently impresses me when he plays for Glasgow and his mini break at the end there set up the try. But great hands by Jackson and DTH did a bloody good job to break tackles in his break. Epic 27 mins of defence only for Paddy jackson to miss the penalty.

Bad luck Ulster, this game felt like Scotland vs Ireland in the 6N all over again. Ulster players dropping the ball for certain try's, Glasgow defending for a full 27 mins.. weird game, but exciting none the less.

Congrats, Glasgow  

Gutted. We played the better rugby on the night, but some poor finishing, silly errors, and weak defence for the try, cost us. Fair play to Glasgow's great defence, and fighting spirit through to the winning try.

I tell you what. I would not want to be one of those Ulster players in the same room as Mark Anscombe right now.

I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments. That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try. I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.  Hopefully he will take the challenge and improve though.

Great win for us but as I alluded to last week, must be done serious questions being asked as to why Barclay was not offered a new contract. Would swap him for Holmes and Vernon right now.

Well done Jedi on the try. Glasgow through and through!

cakeordeath wrote:I feel the need to apologise to the Ulster fans for that win

No need to apologise.

A couple of seasons ago we seemed to do that in most of our matches.

If you live by the "last minute Pienaar pen" you can't really complain when you die by the last second "Sweatie try!"

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments.  That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try.  I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.

I think Michael Allen and Luke Marshall will be pretty lucky to be seen in an Ulster shirt anytime remotely soon.

A vital try at the end. Hardly an 8 pointer at this stage of the season. But that is 3 extra away points that we don't have to earn elsewhere!

Artful_Dodger wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments.  That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try.  I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.

I think Michael Allen and Luke Marshall will be pretty lucky to be seen in an Ulster shirt anytime remotely soon.

Yep. The irritating thing is, they both played well aside from that.

Great! And now our top guys from the lions tour are backdown to earth and should know its back to the daily grind and they have to produce- day in day out , no mercy.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Artful_Dodger wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments.  That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try.  I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.

I think Michael Allen and Luke Marshall will be pretty lucky to be seen in an Ulster shirt anytime remotely soon.

Yep.  The irritating thing is, they both played well aside from that.

They did. As disappointed as I am in the missed opportunities, Marshall, and Allen, played some good rugby, but for the errors. Allen's fumble has nothing to excuse it, but Luke's was a bit trickier to gain control. I think it actually rebounded off a Glasgow player back to him, and that's were it was lost. Not really sure though.

Munchkin wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Artful_Dodger wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments.  That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try.  I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.

I think Michael Allen and Luke Marshall will be pretty lucky to be seen in an Ulster shirt anytime remotely soon.

Yep.  The irritating thing is, they both played well aside from that.

They did. As disappointed as I am in the missed opportunities, Marshall, and Allen, played some good rugby, but for the errors. Allen's fumble has nothing to excuse it, but Luke's was a bit trickier to gain control. I think it actually rebounded off a Glasgow player back to him, and that's were it was lost. Not really sure though.

Craig Gilroy, Andrew Trimble or Tommy Bowe on that wing and it was try time. Shocking from Allen. I suppose what we have to remember is this is still very much second string Ulster teams and whilst our opponents might not be quite full strength either we have some very big players to come back including our entire first choice front row of Court, Best and Afoa. But this result really has to draw a line because we need momentum now and straight wins until Tigers come to Ravenhill.

That's an unbelievable result really. Astonishingly dreadful.

Given the territory, possession and clear cut try chances we had- I would have been furious and devastated had Glasgow got a losing bonus point out of the game. The final result is just- beyond belief.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:I cannot think of a better riposte to the earlier booing

That was entirely due to yer man sneaking an extra five yards when the referees back is turned. Maximum respect for the kicker, but personally have no problem with fans booing for foul play. He won't be complaining- he knows what he did the rascal!

Ah ha!

Well that explains it.

I thought something must have happened off camera!

Cheeky weedgie!

 

Artful_Dodger wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Artful_Dodger wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I was especially disappointed with Luke Marshall tonight.  Shown glimpses of why he is so highly rated, but messed up at key moments.  That dropped ball.. he was nearly in for a certain try.  I hate to say it, as I rate Luke so highly, but Olding deserves the shirt when he is back.

I think Michael Allen and Luke Marshall will be pretty lucky to be seen in an Ulster shirt anytime remotely soon.

Yep.  The irritating thing is, they both played well aside from that.

They did. As disappointed as I am in the missed opportunities, Marshall, and Allen, played some good rugby, but for the errors. Allen's fumble has nothing to excuse it, but Luke's was a bit trickier to gain control. I think it actually rebounded off a Glasgow player back to him, and that's were it was lost. Not really sure though.

Craig Gilroy, Andrew Trimble or Tommy Bowe on that wing and it was try time.  Shocking from Allen.  I suppose what we have to remember is this is still very much second string Ulster teams and whilst our opponents might not be quite full strength either we have some very big players to come back including our entire first choice front row of Court, Best and Afoa.  But this result really has to draw a line because we need momentum now and straight wins until Tigers come to Ravenhill.

True, and possibly more opportunities would have came with any of those 3 on the wing. Trimbs is out for up to another 5 weeks though. Thought big Nick, and Wilson played well. I'm also impressed with Porter. Needs to work a bit on his passes though, but hopefully that will come. Having said that, we can look forward to the return of RP. Herring also had a good game.
Onwards, and upwards to the Tigers. SUFTUM.

Firstly, we threw away that game, and thats very bad, and ultimately, the scoreline is all that matters. Boo Ulster, yadda yadda...

Now, does nobody else agree that ignoring the dropped balls at crucial times, we played reasonably well?

In terms of general play I thought Allen and Wilson were great, and that Herring, Doyle, Porter and McIlwaine were a lot more solid than I previously thought.

We dominated.

But we didnt win, and that's not good enough on nights like tonight.

But its not like its a team falling apart.

Its a team which was a few silly drops away from a comfortable win.

No?

Well we certainly better than last week.

Notch wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:I cannot think of a better riposte to the earlier booing

That was entirely due to yer man sneaking an extra five yards when the referees back is turned. Maximum respect for the kicker, but personally have no problem with fans booing for foul play. He won't be complaining- he knows what he did the rascal!

Totally agree!

Ulster fans showed their class when DTH went into the post. Proper applause when he got up unharmed. One thing those guys know is how to behave at Rugby match.

Thank you Dot!

We have the odd eejit like everywhere but it really is not the done thing to make any noise at Ravenhill when any kicker is kicking.

MrsP wrote:Thank you Dot!

We have the odd eejit like everywhere but it really is not the done thing to make any noise at Ravenhill when any kicker is kicking.

No need for thanks. Been to Ravenhill numerous times and win or (usually) lose I have always held you lot in the highest regard. That said if you don't win a game before Halloween I won't be too upset  

Was not there tonight, but could tell from the reaction to the DTH incident that the concern from the "opposition" crowd was properly meant!

It looks like my team are doing their utmost to oblige Dot!

Anyone got any idea where I'd find stats from tonight's game? Be great to see individual tackle stats etc

They may appear on ESPN?

Hopefully! Although they're often a bit patchy when it comes to covering the Rabo.

Was at the Edinburgh game so couldn't watch the Glasgow v Ulster game, got it recorded is it worth watching?

Well done Glasgow