Wouldn't a Fury win be better for British Boxing ???

Haye is a part time boxer that is 33 years old and prefers the acting profession to the noble art these days.....He is also a classless jerk If we are honest..........Not much mileage in a Haye victory!!  He has been found out at the highest level and the chances of fighting Vitali are slim and none because of his ego and the fact he thinks he's still a Superfighter....

He'll get 5 million for Fury but less than half for Vitali and it won't happen !!

However ingratiating or irritating Fury is to the fan.............He is  charismatic...unbeaten and with the future ahead of him...........Have no doubts fights could be made with either Klit brother or... he has the time to wait each of them out and as there is little talent about take over the Heavyweight title..No one better than these two out there..

Price is a non starter............Haye will always be sullied by toe-gate and his non-effort against Wlad....

Fury should he beat Haye has a real prospect of putting Britain on the map and ruling at least one alphabet title If not more !!!

Timing is everything.........and If I was British I'd be really pulling for Fury...

Could have the World and Haye at his feet............I hope so for one..

No. Just no. That's mainly because i hate fury!

Also, whilst he will probably pick up an alphabet strap against some poor opposition (after the brothers go), he has genuinely no talent apart from his mouth.

Haye will hopefully spark him cold. And i mean really spark him.

A Fury win probably is the best thing for British boxing. He is younger and v good at publicising himself. But it won't happen.

mobilemaster8 wrote:No. Just no. That's mainly because i hate fury!

Also, whilst he will probably pick up an alphabet strap against some poor opposition (after the brothers go), he has genuinely no talent apart from his mouth.

Haye will hopefully spark him cold. And i mean really spark him.

Why do you hate him and surely If Fury lands Haye goes....

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:No. Just no. That's mainly because i hate fury!

Also, whilst he will probably pick up an alphabet strap against some poor opposition (after the brothers go), he has genuinely no talent apart from his mouth.

Haye will hopefully spark him cold. And i mean really spark him.

Why do you hate him and surely If Fury lands Haye goes....

I wouldn't be so sure of that. I thought if Wlad landed Haye would go but from memory he took a couple of decent shots and there's no way Fury hits like Wlad. Really cant see Fury stopping Haye outright.

I agree with you that it would be better if Fury won. Like you said Haye's coming to the end of his career, boxes once a year and I see no reason to think that him or Wlad would be any different if they fought again. While I wouldn't give Fury much hope against Wlad at least it would be something new and he at least has the size to give Wlad a different challenge.

did you all see haye's message to fury? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SFKE3Yo-CwU

look how small he looks compared to the other 3. he looks like a super middle compared to those 3.

if you were looking as a non fan you'd expect them to crush haye with ease, it's crazy. it's also impressive that haye hits much harder than wach and towers. all about timing, speed and explosiveness.

Haye stood up to Wlad's punches when nearly every man and his dog was betting that he'd go as soon as Wlad landed so why should Fury, a man with a fraction of the ability, be able to do any better?

Someone, not dissimilar to yourself, claimed that ring rust and inactivity could be the undoing of Mayweather and yet we've seen precious little of it over the years.

No, Haye doesn't have the natural ability that Mayweather has but let's face it, if we're being honest and all things being equal, Fury will only win if he gets a lucky shot in and, with a possible World title shot on the line and only a few fights left before he retires properly, I can't see Haye being sloppy enough to allow the big lad that opportunity.

Horses for course but I don't believe Fury should be representative of British HW boxing...we've had enough jokes/jokers in the past and he's simply the next clown in line. You talk about Haye being classless and yet you seem to find Fury endearing.

Strange world we live in eh?

I personally think it is Truss. I have two reasons for this. Firstly having watched the Wlad fight, which must be the endgame for both guys, I saw nothing in the Haye fight to suggest things would be different next time around. Whilst I don’t think Fury beats Wlad at least we have not seen that yet so you never know.

Also my second reason for pulling for a Fury win is I personally struggle to get too excited about a heavyweight who in terms of activity makes Mayweather look like Harry Greb. At least Fury seems willing to fight on a regular basis.

Not sure fury will land truss if im honest. Don't get me wrong, if he does catch him clean then yeh its probably game over. Although Wlad never caught him clean and he is on another planet compared with Fury.

I hate him due to his actions in and out the ring along with his big mouth. Does the Ali shuffle, states he is the best EVER, acts a complete clown, sings in the ring, cheats in his fights (see Cunningham) and has a stinking attitude on his twitter thingy.

I just don't like the guy really mate. He has no talent and should be a stand up comedian.

DAVe you watched a different fight to me...He had a t-shirt with both their heads in his hands and then ran like a thief...

I don't know how anybody could dislike Tyson..........Just a lovable clown for me.......

I imagine If you met them in the street..Fury would take the pee but still stand for a photo or give an autograph etc etc If that is what you desired..

Haye would be too busy I reckon..

I would probably punch Fury if i saw him.

He has a really punchable personality

He wants to be loved..

Hope Fury wins for the same reasons a Jeff mentioned. However Haye wins for me, everyone mentions Hayes explosiveness but he's defence is one of the best in game in my opinion, rarely gets caught cleanly, nip and tuck early on with Haye getting the job done on Pts , not many have went for that prediction , but I can see big Fury taking his lumps.

Cheers Rodders

Interesting call..........

I see either winning in the first five..........

Haye has been more active than Floyd in the last 5 years. Funny that you call haye for it but not Floyd.

Paranoia is a terrible thing..

Lumbering, if Fury is getting dropped by Pranjick and Cunningham, Haye knocks him out.

Fury win would be a bit better. I think his ambitions and self confidence go further than how much money can he make. Haye is just a prize fighter and he has been for a long time. Im not condemning him for it, if his fans still want to pay to see him fight then good luck to him. but im sure if he beats Fury he will just wait around for the next easy to sell fight against an opponent he thinks hes got the beating of. Haye never believed he was the best, that's why he took as little risks as he could whilst trying to secure the best possible terms for his biggest fight. Fury will at least try and continue going forwards if he wins. Doesn't look great for british boxing if hes considered our best heavyweight though. but at least he wont go missing from the ring for a year while he awaits the next high earning soap opera to sell to box office

Think Fury respects the sport more.............

You can't knock Haye for being classless as a reason for Fury being better for British boxing!!

A loudmouth mediocrely talented gypsy freakshow is not any kind of messiah for the sport in Britain. At least Haye looks the part.

If there was a way for them both to lose then THAT would be what's best for British boxing.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Think Fury respects the sport more.............

Could happen Truss, don't think Fury knocks Haye out. If Tyson can keep it long he could pull this off as Haye can't counter the jab he doesn't have the balance to do that, Haye is not a gung ho fighter and will adopt the same tactics as norm, waiting for Fury to become brave and  nail with the bombs. Fury can win only by keeping it long in my opinion.

Cheers Rodders

Just one of the reasons...read the thread...............

Then again don't..........read someone elses..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Think Fury respects the sport more.............

at this stage in his career he certainly does. there was a time when a younger less wealthy david haye was great for british boxing. but his motives and priorities have changed over the years, and im sure furys will too in time. but at the moment hes the hungry guy on the up

Problem I have giving Fury too much of a chance...certainly give him a chance...

Is he is careless.........and Haye can bang.........

Fury has great reach and height advantages but will he use them ??????

He can think Peter Fury will make sure he does, but not for the full 12. Expect Haye to win but those suggesting a 2-3 round blast out mismatch are under selling Fury.

Hayes record at heavyweight is hardly petrifying

Cheers Rodders

Ive only seen Fury box well twice. against chisora and johnson, probably the 2 biggest fights hes had. I think we will see Fury at his best, boxing sensibly and using his jab effectively.

I predict Haye on points

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Think Fury respects the sport more.............

Tend to agree Truss, whilst I doubt his capabilites think Fury is genuinely willing to face anyone. Get the impression Haye is concerned with one thing and that is how much a fight will pay him. Think if Haye genuinely thought he could get paid enough for facing Audley again he would.

'willing the face anyone'??????? Short memories. Had zero interest in facing his mandatory a short while ago.

I agree Rowley.......Fury seems to love the sport.........and let's face it no one knows why Fury-Price fell down........

Just like Manny-Mayweather these things aren't black and white..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:DAVe you watched a different fight to me...He had a t-shirt with both their heads in his hands and then ran like a thief...

I don't know how anybody could dislike Tyson..........Just a lovable clown for me.......

I imagine If you met them in the street..Fury would take the pee but still stand for a photo or give an autograph etc etc If that is what you desired..

Haye would be too busy I reckon..

I've seen Fury at fight cards spend an age posing for pictures with fans (the modern day autograph). He spent hours with fans at the Froch-Dirrell card and he actually (believe it or not) seems a humble guy (the TV persona is a ruse to sell tickets). He was visibly nervous about announcing a fight with Martin Rogan prior to taking to the ring but as soon as the cameras were on him he clicked into character.

hazharrison wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:DAVe you watched a different fight to me...He had a t-shirt with both their heads in his hands and then ran like a thief...

I don't know how anybody could dislike Tyson..........Just a lovable clown for me.......

I imagine If you met them in the street..Fury would take the pee but still stand for a photo or give an autograph etc etc If that is what you desired..

Haye would be too busy I reckon..

I've seen Fury at fight cards spend an age posing for pictures with fans (the modern day autograph). He spent hours with fans at the Froch-Dirrell card and he actually (believe it or not) seems a humble guy (the TV persona is an ruse to sell tickets). He was visibly nervous about announcing a fight with Martin Rogan prior to taking to the ring but as soon as the cameras were on him he clicked into character.

In fairness, he did come across well in the podcast a while back.

TopHat24/7 wrote:'willing the face anyone'??????? Short memories.  Had zero interest in facing his mandatory a short while ago.

If Haye wasn't on the table, do you think that he would have not faced the mandatory?

Although this isn't an eliminator, all likelyhood is that the winner will get a shot at one of the belts.

Fury is better for the sport. If he wins, then he deserves credit for beating (and facing) the guy that most people have in their top 3 heavies at this time.

Like I said Haz he's an amaible idiot.........Hard to dislike him.......

Wants to be loved..Hope he bangs Haye out..

Rowley wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Think Fury respects the sport more.............

Tend to agree Truss, whilst I doubt his capabilites think Fury is genuinely willing to face anyone. Get the impression Haye is concerned with one thing and that is how much a fight will pay him. Think if Haye genuinely thought he could get paid enough for facing Audley again he would.

rumour is that Haye is gonna have a bust up with Richie Towers at a press conference next spring. Chance to get himself and Hatton back on box office

Adam D wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:'willing the face anyone'??????? Short memories.  Had zero interest in facing his mandatory a short while ago.

If Haye wasn't on the table, do you think that he would have not faced the mandatory?

Although this isn't an eliminator, all likelyhood is that the winner will get a shot at one of the belts.

Fury is better for the sport. If he wins, then he deserves credit for beating (and facing) the guy that most people have in their top 3 heavies at this time.

Eh?

Think you're missing what I'm getting at Ad. Haye was never on the table, not even within shouting range on the table, when Fury ditched the belts rather than face his mandatory.

I think you mean Pulev, and on that point I've always said I hold nothing against Fury dropping out for the more lucrative Haye fight. Simple business decision.

BUM fight between a HUSTLER and a NO TALENT FOOL.

RIP OFF!

Agree with the poster above who looks dumbfounded at TRUSS's suggestion Fury will fight anyone. Dumps a winnable fight and guarenteed shot at Wlad for a massive pay rise and a possible hiding and THIS guy respects the sport more than Haye?

Think you're spending too long in the company of STRONGBACK

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like I said Haz he's an amaible idiot.........Hard to dislike him.......

Wants to be loved..Hope he bangs Haye out..

He's a hell of a talker -- most of it pretty amusing. Haye had to sit like a stuffed dummy during their presser. He even put Chisora back in his box.
 
Haye is aloof in comparison. How does a Haye win help British boxing? Wlad is unlikely to fight him again but he'd take a Fury fight tomorrow.

YDKSAB wrote:BUM fight between a HUSTLER and a NO TALENT FOOL.

RIP OFF!

Don't buy it then and while you're at it, shut up and go away

YDKSASAG (You don't know sheet about spelling and grammar)

YDKSAB wrote:BUM fight between a HUSTLER and a NO TALENT FOOL.

RIP OFF!

I THOUGHT you would have GONE by now. your BROS fight was 2 days aGO. talking of hustlers isn't there more of your type to communicate with on TWITter rather than WASTING our time. pASS

This is what happens when idiot kids the comment on youtube videos find this site....

hazharrison wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like I said Haz he's an amaible idiot.........Hard to dislike him.......

Wants to be loved..Hope he bangs Haye out..

He's a hell of a talker -- most of it pretty amusing. Haye had to sit like a stuffed dummy during their presser. He even put Chisora back in his box.
 
Haye is aloof in comparison. How does a Haye win help British boxing? Wlad is unlikely to fight him again but he'd take a Fury fight tomorrow.

ROWLEY is forever praising Wlad for his willingness to take on his mandatories. Therefore IF Haye wins and puts himself in a position for another shot then surely Wlad will be as good as his word. After all, Tony Thompson got another shot after working his way back into contention.

Oh and the reason he'd fight Fury tomorrow is that he'd win at a canter.

TopHat24/7 wrote:This is what happens when idiot kids the comment on youtube videos find this site....

hes actually about 45ish. just got the brain of a kid

TopHat24/7 wrote:This is what happens when idiot kids the comment on youtube videos find this site....

casual reflection of your posting suggests there is not a lot of difference Mate....

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:This is what happens when idiot kids the comment on youtube videos find this site....

casual reflection of your posting suggests there is not a lot of difference Mate....

right back at ya big boy

I'm being serious...You stalk and wum something this guy doesn't do...

He's just trying to act big..

Not sure which is the worst crime..

Sorry, I'll stick to regurgitating the same threads ad nauseum, refusing to acknowledge any opinion either than my own, out right hypocrisy and general oafish behaviour like swearing at people then.

You know what they say, impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery, or something like that.

I've never used the foe button............but I'm seriously thinking about it....

Sick to death of writing stuff just for you to p**S all over it ad nauseum....

Just ..... off..

Hahahahahaha thank-you for proving my point.

So much easier when you commit hari-kari.