Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October

by **George Carlin** Mon 30 Sep 2013, 10:36 am

First topic message reminder :

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby

Sunday 6 October 2013, KO 14:05
The Arms Park, Cardiff

Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 56th competition game) picard

Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Neil Perkins (both WRU
Citing Commissioner: Denis Jones (WRU)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)

LIVE on BBC Wales/BBC ALBA

A. Teams:

I. Cardiff Blues
Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Cardif10

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Cardif10

15 Leigh Halfpenny
14 Alex Cuthbert
13 Owen Williams
12 Cory Allen
11 Harry Robinson
10 Rhys Patchell
9 Lloyd Williams

8 Andries Pretorius
7 Sam Warburton
6 Josh Navidi
5 Filo Paulo
4 Bradley Davies
3 Taufa’ao Filise
2 Matthew Rees (c)
1 Gethin Jenkins

16 Kristian Dacey
17 Scott Andrews
18 Sam Hobbs
19 Lou Reed
20 Robin Copeland
21 Lewis Jones
22 Gareth Davies
23 Dafydd Hewitt

II. Edinburgh Rugby
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Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Edinbu10

15 Jack Cuthbert
14 Dougie Fife
13 Joaquin Dominguez
12 Ben Atiga
11 Tim Visser
10 Harry Leonard
9 Greig Laidlaw (c)

1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford
3 Willem Nel
4 Sean Cox
5 Izak van der Westhuizen
6 Dimitri Basilaia
7 Tomas Leonardi
8 David Denton

16 James Hilterbrand
17 Wicus Blaauw
18 Geoff Cross
19 Ollie Atkins
20 Cornell Du Preez
21 Sean Kennedy
22 Matt Scott
23 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

B. Form - head to head:

25 Played
14 Wins 11
11 Losses 14
0 Draws 0
61 Tries 40
43 Conversions 30
57 Penalties 44
2 Drop Goals 8
568 Points 416
24 Avg. Age 25

C. Form - last season:

Friday 7 September 2012, 19:05: Cardiff Arms Park
Cardiff Blues 19 - 21 Edinburgh Rugby

Friday 15 February, 19:30: Murrayfield
Edinburgh Rugby 16 - 17 Cardiff Blues

by **George Carlin** Tue 01 Oct 2013, 6:46 pm

The gift that keeps giving, Mr George Clownshoes Clancy is officiating. picard

In other news, the official Rabo preview has some truly baffling statistics:

The Scotsmen have won just one of their last ten away games in all competitions: 9-7 over Zebre in Parma in March. Edinburgh's only win in Wales on their last sixteen visits since December 2009 was 21-19 in this equivalent fixture at the Arms Park last season.

Cardiff Blues have won five of their last six encounters with Edinburgh in the PRO12, however the Scotsmen have been victorious on five of their last six visits to the Arms Park.

by GLove39 Tue 01 Oct 2013, 6:53 pm

Clueless Clancy? Ohhh dear, ohhh deary dear. Can't stand the man. I'm all for equality & equall opportunities but I think the IRB went a step too far when they appointed a partially blind ref to their elite pannel... thumbsdown

by **RDW** Wed 02 Oct 2013, 2:57 pm

I've got a worry that Dave Denton will be rested this game - he's pretty much played every minute of every game so far (including friendlies) and is probably due a rest before the HK games.

He's generally been one of our better players so far (not much competition!), and is one of the few players who has actually given us go forward.

I know we're short of a 6/8 until the new signings come in but can see him putting Cox at 6 and Basalaia at 8.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 02 Oct 2013, 3:27 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I've got a worry that Dave Denton will be rested this game - he's pretty much played every minute of every game so far (including friendlies) and is probably due a rest before the HK games.

He's generally been one of our better players so far (not much competition!), and is one of the few players who has actually given us go forward.

I know we're short of a 6/8 until the new signings come in but can see him putting Cox at 6 and Basalaia at 8.

If Denton is to be rested then that's probably the right solution, with Hamish Watson on the bench. A shame that McInally has stalled his career. I would personally throw the kitchen sink at Cardiff - this is a winnable away game.

by flyhalffactory Wed 02 Oct 2013, 7:10 pm

Looks like Matt Scott will be on the bench at least, maybe even a starter, I think that this match is a very possible win so would be surprised if Denton doesn't play at least the first 50 mins.

by funnyExiledScot Wed 02 Oct 2013, 7:22 pm

I really do hope Matt Scott returns. We really do need his abilities in that back line.

Imagine having a back both able to run and pass accurately at the same time!!

by **RDW** Wed 02 Oct 2013, 9:18 pm

Where's the confidence in Matt Scott being available come from?

by flyhalffactory Wed 02 Oct 2013, 9:54 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Where's the confidence in Matt Scott being available come from?

I was having a chat to couple of the back room boys last Friday night, and they seem to think that he has been up to speed training wise and believed he will be back in the squad for the Cardiff game, I think they mentioned Laidlaw could be fit for the weekend as well.

by **RDW** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 7:30 am

Hope they aren't rushing them back

by munkian Thu 03 Oct 2013, 9:13 am

C'mon Embra ! Braveheart

by tigertattie Thu 03 Oct 2013, 10:50 am

Edinburgh rugby picard

by funnyExiledScot Thu 03 Oct 2013, 10:51 am

tigertattie wrote:Edinburgh rugby

GC has a useful emoticon (banging head against brick wall).

by **RDW** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 10:54 am

Has there been any specific instances of despair recently or is this just a random outburst regarding the general state of Edinburgh rugby?

by **George Carlin** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 10:56 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Edinburgh rugby
GC has a useful emoticon (banging head against brick wall).

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin11

by **George Carlin** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 3:02 pm

Just a reminder, everyone, of the rules of the George Clancy Drinking Game. Drink every time George (a) makes a completely inexplicable decision, (b) shows contempt to a Scottish team captain and (c) ruins the game as a spectacle.

Call the ambulance ready to arrive at half time.

by tigertattie Thu 03 Oct 2013, 3:08 pm

so does it go

Edinburgh rugby Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin11

oow

sore head

by **George Carlin** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 4:31 pm

tigertattie wrote:so does it go

Edinburgh rugby

oow

sore head

Or:
1. Beat Australia Yahoo

2. Have two players celebrate Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin12

by tigertattie Thu 03 Oct 2013, 4:46 pm

Sean Lineen "Dear Edinburgh, I've found a scots qualified winger playing in the super 15. He's great. Would you like him, the SRU will pay his wages

Edinburgh Rugby "Dear Mr Lineen. You can ram yer alleged great winger. We have Lee Jones"

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin12

by tigertattie Thu 03 Oct 2013, 4:47 pm

Sorry, I digress! (again)

Blues to win by 7 or 8

by **RDW** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 4:49 pm

tigertattie wrote:Sean Lineen "Dear Edinburgh, I've found a scots qualified winger playing in the super 15. He's great. Would you like him, the SRU will pay his wages

Edinburgh Rugby "Dear Mr Lineen. You can ram yer alleged great winger. We have Lee Jones"

That literally has to be one of the worst decisions ever in the history of rugby.

Screw that - in the history of the world!

by funnyExiledScot Thu 03 Oct 2013, 5:05 pm

George Carlin wrote:Just a reminder, everyone, of the rules of the George Clancy Drinking Game. Drink every time George (a) makes a completely inexplicable decision, (b) shows contempt to a Scottish team captain and (c) ruins the game as a spectacle.

Call the ambulance ready to arrive at half time.

That is an irresponsible suggestion. You'd be dead by the 20 minute mark.

I'd have thought the better game in the UAE would be to drink every time he makes a good decision.....

by **George Carlin** Thu 03 Oct 2013, 5:38 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Just a reminder, everyone, of the rules of the George Clancy Drinking Game. Drink every time George (a) makes a completely inexplicable decision, (b) shows contempt to a Scottish team captain and (c) ruins the game as a spectacle.

Call the ambulance ready to arrive at half time.
That is an irresponsible suggestion. You'd be dead by the 20 minute mark.

I'd have thought the better game in the UAE would be to drink every time he makes a good decision.....

That is definitely the more Sharia'a compliant version.

by tigertattie Fri 04 Oct 2013, 8:56 am

RDW, as a mod, you should impose a rule that all posts made in relation to Edinburgh need to end with Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin12

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 8:57 am

That would be most appropriate

Cardiff Blues v Edinburgh Rugby, 6 October - Page 2 Bangin11

by wales606 Fri 04 Oct 2013, 12:11 pm

Blues team!

15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Owen Williams, 12 Cory Allen, 11 Harry Robinson, 10 Rhys Patchell, 9 Lloyd Williams

8 Andries Pretorius, 7 Sam Warburton, 6 Josh Navidi, 5 Filo Paulo, 4 Bradley Davies, 3 Taufa’ao Filise, 2 Matthew Rees (c), 1 Gethin Jenkins

16 Kristian Dacey, 17 Scott Andrews, 18 Sam Hobbs, 19 Lou Reed, 20 Robin Copeland, 21 Lewis Jones, 22 Gareth Davies, 23 Dafydd Hewitt

.............................................................

Cory Allen starts!

That is pretty much our starting team with the exception of Scott Andrew and Robin Copeland who are on the bench.

If we lose this game then we might as well not show up to our HC games.

by funnyExiledScot Fri 04 Oct 2013, 12:16 pm

Oh great - first choice Blues team in Cardiff. We are going to struggle here.

by XR Fri 04 Oct 2013, 12:39 pm

Copeland on the bench picard

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 1:50 pm

Edinburgh Rugby team to play Cardiff Blues at Cardiff Arms Park on Sunday 6 October (kick-off 2.05pm)

15 Jack Cuthbert; 14 Dougie Fife, 13 Joaquin Dominguez, 12 Ben Atiga, 11 Tim Visser; 10 Harry Leonard, 9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN;

1 Alasdair Dickinson, 2 Ross Ford, 3 Willem Nel, 4 Sean Cox, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 6 Dimitri Basilaia, 7 Tomas Leonardi, 8 David Denton.

Substitutes:16 James Hilterbrand, 17 Wicus Blaauw, 18 Geoff Cross, 19 Ollie Atkins, 20 Cornell Du Preez, 21 Sean Kennedy, 22 Matt Scott, 23 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

Strong pack, dodgy backs - particularly in the midfield. Great to see Laidlaw and Matt Scott back and interesting that Du Preez is straight on the bench having only arrived in the country a couple of day ago.

Didn't realise Leonardi was a 7, and I fear a roasting at the breakdown with Warbuton in the team.

by justified sinner Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:26 pm

Looks like Solomons is still in let's have a look at all the squad mode.

by tigertattie Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:28 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Didn't realise Leonardi was a 7, and I fear a roasting at the breakdown with Warbuton in the team.

One of the most over-hyped players since Gavin Henson!

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 2:47 pm

tigertattie wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Didn't realise Leonardi was a 7, and I fear a roasting at the breakdown with Warbuton in the team.
One of the most over-hyped players since Gavin Henson!

He's no Thomas Leonardi that's for sure!

by tigertattie Fri 04 Oct 2013, 3:05 pm

Listening to the old ipod (other listening devices are available) at work, a rather apt lyric for Edinburgh, a pat on the back for anyone who can tell me what song this comes from (without using google etc)

"Don't try to fix me, I'm not broken. Hello, I'm your mind, giving you someone to talk to"

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:35 pm

tigertattie wrote:Listening to the old ipod (other listening devices are available) at work, a rather apt lyric for Edinburgh, a pat on the back for anyone who can tell me what song this comes from (without using google etc)

"Don't try to fix me, I'm not broken. Hello, I'm your mind, giving you someone to talk to"

I did Google it, and am now judging you! Very Happy

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:37 pm

Just noticed that only 3 of the starting pack are Scottish - not the best situation that!

by funnyExiledScot Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:40 pm

Very much an experimental looking team, and I agree with the comment above that Solomons is still having a look at his options.

Great to see Greg Laidlaw back, and hopefully Matt Scott is ready to come back into the side.

Good run in the team for Harry Leonard. He's being given a real chance here.

by **RDW** Fri 04 Oct 2013, 5:45 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:

Good run in the team for Harry Leonard. He's being given a real chance here.

There's hee haw else to pick from!

by GLove39 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 1:51 pm

Ahhh, time for a relaxing Sunday afternoon in front of the TV...

by cakeordeath Sun 06 Oct 2013, 1:56 pm

Come on Edinburgh. Let's see if we can got a decent performance

by TJ Sun 06 Oct 2013, 1:59 pm

by **George Carlin** Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:00 pm

Hopefully the Mad Georgian will be yanked by the end of the first half so we can see the considerable stuff that all reports indicate Du Preez has got.

Have got a sad, sad, sinking feeling that we're going to kick the ball to the Lilliputian and Cuthbert all day which means that it should be asbestos underpants time fairly early. Comparing the speed of Cory Allen to the trundling, runaway sofa that is Ben Atiga also does not make me moist with confidence.

by wales606 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:04 pm

Been looking forward to this game

I really hope they are still fighting from that loss to Zebre.

This is such a strong team, I really hope they perform.

Weather looks good too

by wales606 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:09 pm

Good start for the Blues

Patient, and good recycling with the flankers all over the place

by TJ Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:10 pm

Or very soft edinburgh defense - no line speed / big hits. Just too passive

by **George Carlin** Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:13 pm

It's taken 4 minutes for the Lilliputian to get points on the board.
Tsk. Slack. What did they do for the first 3 minutes? picard

by GLove39 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:14 pm

Lovely break there by Laidlaw, great to see. Shame there wasn't more support.

by wales606 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:15 pm

Sam Warburton is really firing for the Blues since his return

He must finally be properly fit for once - which is very good news for Wales

by Steffan Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:15 pm

Come on Edinburgh sort it out

by wales606 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:15 pm

How on earth did Halfpenny miss that!

I'm amazed

by GLove39 Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:16 pm

Wowzers, what a hit. Second row on second row

by VinceWLB Sun 06 Oct 2013, 2:18 pm

GLove39 wrote:Wowzers, what a hit. Second row on second row

Those are the best hits, remember McCarthy on Etzebeth!

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