Haka Furore

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Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

stub wrote:What a good natured thread - everyone's just so civilised... What's going on? Does this happen often?

Usually starts with something so puerile from GE that we have to rescue it for him by introducing humour.

I always preferred it when the brain donors were banging on about NZ pillaging the Pacific Islands.

tigerleghorn wrote:

stub wrote:What a good natured thread - everyone's just so civilised... What's going on? Does this happen often?

Usually starts with something so puerile from GE that we have to rescue it for him by introducing humour.

I'm still waiting for some wit from you tiger. You seem like an intense grumpy old sort who gives short shrift to a humorous take on life. I think you need to relax and not let that anxiety build up. Ever tried yoga?

GloriousEmpire wrote:I had a Freddo bar that I stole from a sugared out kid on Halloween. It had pop rocks in it. I thought my root canal had gone wrong. Awful stuff.

That's right, pop rocks were about as synthetic the upcoming DM 'Furore'... if there is one.

I'm sure 'pop rocks' used to be called something else when I was a nipper.

Cyril wrote:I'm sure 'pop rocks' used to be called something else when I was a nipper.

If Pop Rocks was the Coca Cola of the popping candy world, then Space Dust was it's Pepsi like nemesis.

GloriousEmpire wrote:

tigerleghorn wrote:

stub wrote:What a good natured thread - everyone's just so civilised... What's going on? Does this happen often?

Usually starts with something so puerile from GE that we have to rescue it for him by introducing humour.

I'm still waiting for some wit from you tiger. You seem like an intense grumpy old sort who gives short shrift to a humorous take on life. I think you need to relax and not let that anxiety build up. Ever tried yoga?

Oooh, get you!, touchy touchy.

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Speaking of dodgy lollies. Did you guys up north get Spaceman Candy Sticks in the 80s? Probably something similar anyway. White sugar sticks with the tip dipped in red food colouring to to make them look like a lit smoke. Great for trying to be badass when you're 5 yo.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Wipe out the ABs with muskets, that'd work, bit girly mind.

Metal Tiger wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Or in a 19th century upper class British accent; "what say you savage?"

How about offering up a vial of pox?

ebop wrote:How about offering up a vial of pox?

Probably a bit over the top. It seems a slightly undercooked korma or a touch of the sniffles is enough to cripple the once mighty All Black these days.

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Metal Tiger wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Or in a  19th century upper class British accent; "what say you savage?"

Or even raise an eyebrow like prince philip and ask politely "Do you still eat each other?"

Apologies, not very traditional either, maybe musket fire is a more appropriate challenge afterall.

Metal Tiger wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Metal Tiger wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Or in a  19th century upper class British accent; "what say you savage?"

Or even raise an eyebrow like prince philip and ask politely "Do you still eat each other?"

Anyone on here a member of the Prince Philip Movement I wonder?

Metal Tiger wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Yawn. Bring it on. For one thing if the Brits hadn't been totally outclassed by the fortified pa and the stealth ops of the Maori they wouldn't have begged for a treaty when they did.

Do the Morris Dance (yawn), take the hanky off your head, blow your nose into it, walk up to the haka and rub the hanky into the ABs faces. They'll come down with the flu and spend the next week in bed. You'll lose the game. But at least it'll give the next team a slim chance.

I could be wrong but isn't it likely that a fair few of the current population of NZ are descendants of the nasty colonial Brits he keeps talking about?

True, but no one will admit to it though

That's tongue in cheek by the way:)

Heaf wrote:I could be wrong but isn't it likely that a fair few of the current population of NZ are descendants of the nasty colonial Brits he keeps talking about?

It is a fact often overlooked that the majority of the NZders have British (Scots, Irish, English & Welsh) descendancy in the mix.... apologies to the Irish for this but at the time of the colonisation of the antipodes you were in the club too... before you handed in your club card and changed the locks.

Gotta admit Tiger, if I trace my roots back about 160 years (and further) I end up in Ireland, but I got a big telling off during the Lions tour for referring to the Irish as British.

I remember reading in that thread that England isn't a country, confused the heck out of me. Maybe I read it wrong or I missed that geography lesson in school.

Metal Tiger wrote:

Heaf wrote:I could be wrong but isn't it likely that a fair few of the current population of NZ are descendants of the nasty colonial Brits he keeps talking about?

It is a fact often overlooked that the majority of the NZders have British (Scots, Irish, English & Welsh) descendancy in the mix.... apologies to the Irish for this but at the time of the colonisation of the antipodes you were in the club too... before you handed in your club card and changed the locks.

Well Metal maybe then you should call yourself French because of the Normans until you changed or maybe German from the Angles/Saxons or maybe....don't be so facetious and lazy.

Wow. S.o.h failure. Jeez...

Some things just aren't funny Bv.

The point I was trying to make ME was that GE talks about how the colonial Brits treated his country badly in the past when surely many of the current population (possibly even him) are descended from those Brits rather than true natives. As you rightly point out many countries are made up of a diverse mix of descendants so his historical grudge holding just seems daft ... Of course it gives him another way of being anti British.

Cyril wrote:GE, as a loyal subscriber to The Daily Mail (you tend to quote it in most of your ramblings) I'm sure you'll be up to arms about it too.

Yours in disgust

Cyril

I read the showbiz section of the daily mail, some great pics of Kim Kardashian back side.

doesnt really affect me if he is anti British (albeit maybe a little immature of him)......as Muhammad Ali said about going to Vietnam..."aint no Vietcong called me...." (you surely can remember the rest).

Heaf wrote:The point I was trying to make ME was that GE talks about how the colonial Brits treated his country badly in the past when surely many of the current population (possibly even him) are descended from those Brits rather than true natives.  As you rightly point out many countries are made up of a diverse mix of descendants so his historical grudge holding just seems daft ... Of course it gives him another way of being anti British.

We all trace common ancestors back to one or two original emergences of humanity. But we still form tribes, societies, civilizations. Grow, change, evolve and fight.

There's a difference between having British heritage and maintaining British ideals.

I appreciate that ME, it was more really about him taking up a position that seemed illogical. A bit like him saying how people shouldn't blame the ref when the result of a match doesn't suit them and then dedicating all his time to saying how bad Clancy was on Saturday because England won.

GloriousEmpire wrote:

Heaf wrote:The point I was trying to make ME was that GE talks about how the colonial Brits treated his country badly in the past when surely many of the current population (possibly even him) are descended from those Brits rather than true natives.  As you rightly point out many countries are made up of a diverse mix of descendants so his historical grudge holding just seems daft ... Of course it gives him another way of being anti British.

We all trace common ancestors back to one or two original emergences of humanity. But we still form tribes, societies, civilizations. Grow, change, evolve and fight.

There's a difference between having British heritage and maintaining British ideals.

Still salute the British flag thou;) 
Also read once that the EX Empire nations all finish every sentence with a higher pitch "up speak" because they seek approval from the mother land!
True think about it.

Which fits in with my theory that British culture is essentially self centric and deluded. Which is true if you think about it.

GloriousEmpire wrote:

Heaf wrote:The point I was trying to make ME was that GE talks about how the colonial Brits treated his country badly in the past when surely many of the current population (possibly even him) are descended from those Brits rather than true natives.  As you rightly point out many countries are made up of a diverse mix of descendants so his historical grudge holding just seems daft ... Of course it gives him another way of being anti British.

We all trace common ancestors back to one or two original emergences of humanity. But we still form tribes, societies, civilizations. Grow, change, evolve and fight.

There's a difference between having British heritage and maintaining British ideals.

Don't really understand that as have neither British heritage nor had anything in the line of British ideals (whatever that is). Why not just try to be a good New Zealander and look forward...I cant understand the inferiority complex that is just completely emanating from your posts which seem even more ridiculous considering you do this on a rugby forum when your team is No.1 in the world.

So which British ideals are at odds with NZ ideals as a matter of interest?

GloriousEmpire wrote:Which fits in with my theory that British culture is essentially self centric and deluded. Which is true if you think about it.

It is! most certainly is. But when measured by success,kind of have every right to be self centric  Guess thats why NZ try so hard in rugby? seeking approval.

ME-109 wrote:doesnt really affect me if he is anti British (albeit maybe a little immature of him)......as Muhammad Ali said about going to Vietnam..."aint no Vietcong called me...." (you surely can remember the rest).

white?

ME-109 wrote:doesnt really affect me if he is anti British (albeit maybe a little immature of him)......as Muhammad Ali said about going to Vietnam..."aint no Vietcong called me...." (you surely can remember the rest).

funny though because "Viet" is probably derived from a Chinese word about the various peoples of Southern China in ancient times and the name "Vietnam" was decided on my the Chinese Emperor some time ago AND Chinese poeple (and Japanese poeple) and my guess is most of Asia don't really like African people considering them to have not taken advantage of Darwinian theory sufficently.

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

Letter to the Editor, Daily Mail, on Monday 18 November 2013



Sir

Disgusted to see that a bunch of foreign hooligans violated England's green and pleasant land on Saturday and abused the hospitality of our great nation by disgracing themselves on the rugby field.   Firstly, they indulged in criminally threatening behaviour and then very unsportingly kept the ball almost entirely to themselves for the whole game and refused to give it to England.  This shouldn't be allowed.  Don't they know who invented the game?

They also came here and stayed in our hotels (probably claiming housing benefit), thus depriving hardworking British citizens of much needed accommodation, and during the game committed violent acts of something called 'tackling' on several England players which meant Our Brave Boys had to have treatment which no doubt cost the NHS a fortune.   I don't pay my taxes so Johnny foreigner can inflict waste on our precious resources in this way.

These hooligans, who will probably claim asylum and sponge off the welfare state should be sent back to where they come from where they can run around in the jungle and eat each other as much as they like.  

I am going to write to my MP and demand they be thrown into jail and are hanged at dawn every day for a fortnight.  That'll teach them.  It's the only thing they understand.


Yours,
Disgusted of Witney

Metal Tiger wrote:

aucklandlaurie wrote:

Metal Tiger wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

I think NZ should perform the traditional Haka.

Thus allowing the traditional response to the Haka.

With a round of musket fire.

Or in a  19th century upper class British accent; "what say you savage?"

Or even raise an eyebrow like prince philip and ask politely "Do you still eat each other?"

Well this did cause a tummy upset last year.

They better get the insulting display over with quickly as that's the same date that the Daily Mail have down for an alien invasion of East Sussex, secretly planned by Prince Philip to take control of the Monarchy for himself.

A half Haka may have to do.

The Fourth Lion wrote:

GloriousEmpire wrote:Just 5 days to go until the Daily Mail will discover that NZ propose to make an insulting display of tongue waggling and throat slitting at twickenham.

Boy, I bet that kicks off.

Letter to the Editor, Daily Mail, on Monday 18 November 2013



Sir

Disgusted to see that a bunch of foreign hooligans violated England's green and pleasant land on Saturday and abused the hospitality of our great nation by disgracing themselves on the rugby field.   Firstly, they indulged in criminally threatening behaviour and then very unsportingly kept the ball almost entirely to themselves for the whole game and refused to give it to England.  This shouldn't be allowed.  Don't they know who invented the game?

They also came here and stayed in our hotels (probably claiming housing benefit), thus depriving hardworking British citizens of much needed accommodation, and during the game committed violent acts of something called 'tackling' on several England players which meant Our Brave Boys had to have treatment which no doubt cost the NHS a fortune.   I don't pay my taxes so Johnny foreigner can inflict waste on our precious resources in this way.

These hooligans, who will probably claim asylum and sponge off the welfare state should be sent back to where they come from where they can run around in the jungle and eat each other as much as they like.  

I am going to write to my MP and demand they be thrown into jail and are hanged at dawn every day for a fortnight.  That'll teach them.  It's the only thing they understand.


Yours,
Disgusted of Witney

 Reasonably worded missive.

GE given your feelings about the role of the colonials in the disposession and oppression of the native New Zealanders (which continues very much to this day) I was wondering what your opinion was of the same colonial group appropriating the native culture to their white mans sport - I'm thinking that maybe a comparator would be a South African team coming onto the pitch and doing a Zulu or Xhosa dance.

 
Do London Reading 'Irish' still open up procedings with the 'River Dance' ?
And what is it with those wolfhounds in emerald jackets ? I love a spot of culture.

One pop from a Challenger 2 tank ought to sort the upstarts out. It would also instantly move us up to 2nd in the irb world rankings.

englandglory4ever wrote:One pop from a Challenger 2 tank ought to sort the upstarts out. It would also instantly move us up to 2nd in the irb world rankings.

Unless the crew had enjoyed one too many 'herbals' and inadvertently swung the gun around on their own squad.

But it would only wipe out at best the 22 players of the day. It could be that NZ has some other players at home or around the world who could step in. Maori ABs for example just beat Canada so that suggest they could be ranked around 12/13.

ebop wrote:I remember reading in that thread that England isn't a country, confused the heck out of me. Maybe I read it wrong or I missed that geography lesson in school.

England is a country, but in the same way that California is a State.

England is a constituent part of the sovereign territory of the United Kingdom. The State of California is a part of the United States of America. Same sort of thing, only with different political structures.

Irish Londoner wrote:GE given your feelings about the role of the colonials in the disposession and oppression of the native New Zealanders (which continues very much to this day) I was wondering what your opinion was of the same colonial group appropriating the native culture to their white mans sport - I'm thinking that maybe a comparator would be a South African team coming onto the pitch and doing a Zulu or Xhosa dance.

No idea what your point is.