Aviva Premiership - Round 19

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Table:

Pos	Team	__Pld__	__Won__	_Drawn_	_Lost_	__For__	_Against_	__TF__	__TA__	__TBP__	__LBP__	__Pts__
1	Saracens	18	16	0	2	507	260	53	27	8	0	72
2	Northampton Saints	18	14	1	3	451	269	52	22	5	2	65
3	Leicester Tigers	18	12	2	4	422	342	43	30	4	2	58
4	Bath Rugby	18	12	1	5	410	313	40	32	3	2	55
5	Sale Sharks	18	11	0	7	323	296	31	25	2	5	51
6	Harlequins	18	11	0	7	337	288	32	26	2	3	49
7	London Wasps	18	7	0	11	341	364	33	33	2	9	39
8	Gloucester Rugby	18	7	0	11	328	425	33	46	2	6	36
9	Exeter Chiefs	18	7	0	11	324	349	28	34	1	6	35
10	London Irish	18	5	0	13	283	390	24	37	0	6	26
11	Newcastle Falcons	18	3	0	15	200	414	15	45	1	6	19
12	Worcester Warriors	18	1	0	17	224	440	18	45	0	6	10

Fixtures:

Fri 11th Apr 14
19:45 Sale Sharks  v   Harlequins BT Sport

Sat 12th Apr 14
15:00 Leicester Tigers  v   London Wasps
15:00        Worcester Warriors  v   Exeter Chiefs
15:15 Gloucester Rugby  v   Bath Rugby BT Sport

Sun 13th Apr 14
14:00 Saracens  v   Northampton Saints BT Sport
15:00 London Irish  v   Newcastle Falcons

I thought Allen was a done deal but Bowden was being offered silly money from Bristol.

A Pohe/Manu midfield. The thought makes me smile. Combined weight of 35 ish stone. Both mobile with decent if not great handling skills. That'll draw in a lot of defences leaving room for the outside backs.

Imagine if goneva stays as well.

 you could have a attacking wise off a lineout crash balling choice between Mulipola, Pohe and Manu combined weight of 55 stone. and with goneva that's like 71 stone and some magic feet. Wouldn't want to defend that.

 Add in Peace the 18.9 stone 6ft 4 bulldozing number 8 from Rotherham (qho gets raves reviews from there supporters says he is better than Dickerson at saints).

Match Officials:

Sale v Quins
Referee: Wayne Barnes (136th Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Paul Dix & Robin Goodliffe. TMO: Geoff Warren.

Tigers v Wasps
Referee: Andrew Small (102nd Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Ross Campbell & Kelvin Stewart. TMO: David Grashoff.

Worcester v Chiefs
Referee: JP Doyle (75th Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Roger Baileff & Ashley Rowden. TMO: Graham Hughes.

Glaws v Barf
Referee: Tim Wigglesworth (82nd Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Andrew Pearce & Gareth Copsey. TMO: David Sainsbury.

Sarries v Saints
Referee: Greg Garner (64th Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Peter Huckle & Andy Watson. TMO: Rowan Kitt.

Irish v Falcons
Referee: Luke Pearce (25th Premiership game).
Assistant Referees: Simon McConnell & Paul Burton. TMO: Keith Lewis.

Harlequins Team
15. Mike Brown
14. Ollie Lindsay-Hague
13. Tim Molenaar
12. Jordan Turner-Hall
11. Sam Smith
10 Nick Evans
9. Danny Care

1. Joe Marler
2. Dave Ward
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Charlie Matthews
5. George Robson
6. Luke Wallace
7. Chris Robshaw (C)
8. Nick Easter

16. Rob Buchanan
17. Mark Lambert
18. Paul Doran Jones
19. Tom Guest
20. Maurie Fa'asavalu
21. Karl Dickson
22. Ben Botica
23. Ross Chisholm

15 - Tom Arscott, 14 - Tom Brady, 13 - Jonny Leota, 12 - Sammy Tuitupou, 11 - Mark Cueto, 10 - Danny Cipriani, 9 - Dwayne Peel, 1 - Eifion Lewis-Roberts, 2 - Marc Jones, 3- Vadim Cobilas, 4 - Jonathan Mills, 5 - Michael Paterson, 6 - Dan Braid, 7 - David Seymour, 8 - James Gaskell

Replacements 16 - Tommy Taylor, 17 - Ross Harrison, 18 - Henry Thomas, 19 - Andrei Ostrikov, 20 - Mark Easter, 21 - Will Cliff, 22 - Nick Macleod, 23 - Rob Miller

Two very physical pairs of centres.

Welly wrote:Imagine if goneva stays as well.

 you could have a attacking wise off a lineout crash balling choice between Mulipola, Pohe and Manu combined weight of 55 stone. and with goneva that's like 71 stone and some magic feet. Wouldn't want to defend that.

 Add in Peace the 18.9 stone 6ft 4 bulldozing number 8 from Rotherham (qho gets raves reviews from there supporters says he is better than Dickerson at saints).

Shame you won't win the lineout with Tom Youngs throwing

Bathite wrote:

Welly wrote:Imagine if goneva stays as well.

 you could have a attacking wise off a lineout crash balling choice between Mulipola, Pohe and Manu combined weight of 55 stone. and with goneva that's like 71 stone and some magic feet. Wouldn't want to defend that.

 Add in Peace the 18.9 stone 6ft 4 bulldozing number 8 from Rotherham (qho gets raves reviews from there supporters says he is better than Dickerson at saints).

Shame you won't win the lineout with Tom Youngs throwing

true - real shame we do not have the most accurate thrower in this seasons HEC.


Oh wait..... we have.

Bathite wrote:

Welly wrote:Imagine if goneva stays as well.

 you could have a attacking wise off a lineout crash balling choice between Mulipola, Pohe and Manu combined weight of 55 stone. and with goneva that's like 71 stone and some magic feet. Wouldn't want to defend that.

 Add in Peace the 18.9 stone 6ft 4 bulldozing number 8 from Rotherham (qho gets raves reviews from there supporters says he is better than Dickerson at saints).

Shame you won't win the lineout with Tom Youngs throwing

Funny how Leicester Tigers are third in the league with one of the best lineout percentages in the AP with such awful throwing isn't it?   

Bathite, We will "worry about TY poor throwing" you worry about stopping the result esp as rumour that Niki signed a 2 year deal

Bathite wrote:
Shame you won't win the lineout with Tom Youngs throwing

 Well TY one of the most consistent throwers in the league and then we will also have one of the most consistent lineout throwers in the 6 Nations in Ghiraldini.

Man that was tooooooo easy, wasn't expecting so many bites so quickly. I should give this Wumming a go more often

Bathite wrote:Man that was tooooooo easy, wasn't expecting so many bites so quickly. I should give this Wumming a go more often

Probably better if you just get back to your X Box sonny.

Bathite wrote:Man that was tooooooo easy, wasn't expecting so many bites so quickly. I should give this Wumming a go more often

Perhaps it was. Certainly easier than fixing Baths throwing woes

It did make the laugh during the Saints game. All that build up over Youngs line out work and it was Hartley that struggled and then left the field early after a poor attempted clear out.

At least one Tigers fan has a sense of humour!  

Bathite wrote:At least one Tigers fan has a sense of humour!  

 
I know, we can be an uptight bunch. Unlike Bath supporters who are born with good humour (you need a good sense of humour if you're trying to convince visiting supporters that The Rec is a ground worthy of Premiership status...   )
 
 

You skipped lunch fella? Have a snickers, you're a right diva when you're hungry

Bathite wrote:You skipped lunch fella? Have a snickers, you're a right diva when you're hungry

Nice.... did you hear that noise? It was the sound of your Tom Youngs dig backfiring...

On the contrary, as WUM's go, you've proven my one to be very effective.

So lets get this straight. All you need for a WUM to be considered effective is a response?

I would like to immediately retire from my 1 WUM career and wish to focus discussion back on rugby.

Ross Chisholm!!!!!!!! Good to see him back, just in time to do enough to get picked for the tour to NZ...

Oh and yes two very large pairs of centre's. Might get a little messy up there in Sale.

I think there are plenty of options for England Yappy, young Chrisholm isn't that good. Yarde, May, Ashton, Nowell, Wade (if fit) and maybe Tait are all options.

formerly known as Sam wrote:I think there are plenty of options for England Yappy, young Chrisholm isn't that good. Yarde, May, Ashton, Nowell, Wade (if fit) and maybe Tait are all options.

I'll take exception at "isn't that good", Sam. He's looked very good when he's played but he's had two lengthy periods out injured, courtesy of Dan Cole sitting on his ankle and the Allianz Park pitch. But I'll agree that those players are definitely ahead of him on the list of possible tourists, especially as only Ashton and Tait are likely to be involved at the pointy end of the season.

For the future, though, if Chis can stay fit and get a run of games he's like a quicker Mike Brown who is comfortable playing wing or fullback. He even has the same haircut. [tongue||cheek] It's like a bit like all Bomber's Christmas wishes came true at once... if only Sharples could maintain fitness and form he could pick all three of them and bamboozle the opposition with the Attack of the Clones [/tongue]

Poorfour wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:I think there are plenty of options for England Yappy, young Chrisholm isn't that good. Yarde, May, Ashton, Nowell, Wade (if fit) and maybe Tait are all options.

I'll take exception at "isn't that good", Sam. He's looked very good when he's played but he's had two lengthy periods out injured, courtesy of Dan Cole sitting on his ankle and the Allianz Park pitch. But I'll agree that those players are definitely ahead of him on the list of possible tourists, especially as only Ashton and Tait are likely to be involved at the pointy end of the season.

For the future, though, if Chis can stay fit and get a run of games he's like a quicker Mike Brown who is comfortable playing wing or fullback. He even has the same haircut. [tongue||cheek] It's like a bit like all Bomber's Christmas wishes came true at once... if only Sharples could maintain fitness and form he could pick all three of them and bamboozle the opposition with the Attack of the Clones [/tongue]

On a sunny day they could be devastating!

formerly known as Sam wrote:I think there are plenty of options for England Yappy, young Chrisholm isn't that good. Yarde, May, Ashton, Nowell, Wade (if fit) and maybe Tait are all options.

And Watson, who trained with the EPS this year

I meant he isn't that good that in four/five games he's going to shred Lancaster's pecking order and go to NZ. Whether he is good enough to play for England in the future is an entirely different matter.

Watson, knew I'd forgotten one. Cheers, Bathite.

Nobody knows how good Chis might be as he's been so bloody injured

Chisholm won't go to NZ and that's great. We need a FB who's not involved in England for when MB is away and his time will come

LondonTiger wrote:Harlequins Team
15. Mike Brown
14. Ollie Lindsay-Hague
13. Tim Molenaar
12. Jordan Turner-Hall
11. Sam Smith
10 Nick Evans
9. Danny Care

1. Joe Marler
2. Dave Ward
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Charlie Matthews
5. George Robson
6. Luke Wallace
7. Chris Robshaw (C)
8. Nick Easter

16. Rob Buchanan
17. Mark Lambert
18. Paul Doran Jones
19. Tom Guest
20. Maurie Fa'asavalu
21. Karl Dickson
22. Ben Botica
23. Ross Chisholm

Happy to see continuity, no more injuries and Chis and Mo back. If the spine plays to their ability, as good as Sale's form is, we should have too much

Yea it was said with tongue firmly in cheak. Just pleased to see him back and hopefully staying fit for a long time now!

That try he scored against Glos was legendary. In fact it was so good it was Legend- wait for it... -no I can't do it.

Leicester Tigers (v London Wasps, Welford Road, Saturday 3pm)
15 Mathew Tait
14 Vereniki Goneva
13 Matt Smith
12 Manusamoa Tuilagi
11 Blaine Scully
10 Owen Williams
9 Ben Youngs
1 Boris Stankovich
2 Tom Youngs
3 Fraser Balmain
4 Ed Slater (c)
5 Graham Kitchener
6 Jamie Gibson
7 Julian Salvi
8 Jordan Crane

Replacements
16 Rob Hawkins
17 Marcos Ayerza
18 Logovi'i Mulipola
19 Geoff Parling
20 Pablo Matera
21 David Mele
22 Toby Flood
23 Niall Morris

That bench is so so so strong.

 Manu @ 12,

Falcons v Irish

Shiells finally back and starts...Barrow back and on the bench. Lee Smith starts at 12??
And with Helluer and Sinoti in there, theres a bit oomph aswell.

1 Shiells,
2 Thompson,
3 Tomaszczyk,
4 MacLeod,
5 McKenzie,
6 Welch(c),
7 Saull,
8 M.Wilson

9 Fury
10 Clegg
11 Sinoti
12 Lee Smith
13 Helleur
14 Shortland
15 Cato

Bench: McGuigan, Strain, S. Wilson, Barrow, Mayhew, Blair, Hodgson, Fitzpatrick

Sh1te, riddled by injuries in the forwards:

CHIEFS SIDE TO FACE WORCESTER WARRIORS

15 Phil Dollman
14 Fetu’u Vainikolo
13 Ian Whitten
12 Sam Hill
11 Matt Jess
10 Gareth Steenson
9 Dave Lewis
1 Ben Moon
2 Jack Yeandle
3 Alex Brown
4 Don Armand
5 Damian Welch
6 Dave Ewers
7 Dean Mumm
8 Kai Horstmann

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie
17 Carl Rimmer
18 Craig Mitchell
19 James Phillips
20 James Scaysbrook
21 Haydn Thomas
22 Henry Slade
23 Luke Arscott

A mobile pack, but not the fastest backrow in the world by a long chalk. Oh well

Wuss Warriors:

15 Chris Pennell
14 Josh Drauniniu
13 Alex Grove
12 Ravai Fatiaki
11 David Lemi
10 Ryan Lamb
9 Jonny Arr
1 Ofa Fainga'anuku
2 Agustin Creevy
3 Euan Murray
4 James Percival
5 Mariano Galarza
6 Mike Williams
7 Sam Betty
8 Jonathan Thomas (C)

Replacements
16 Ed Shervington
17 Paul Andrew
18 Rob O'Donnell
19 Semisi Taulava
20 Richard de Carpentier
21 Paul Hodgson
22 Paul Warwick
23 Andy Symons

Welly wrote:That bench is so so so strong.

 Manu @ 12,

Wasps have had to make several changes. I can't see them getting anywhere near parity. Can see a large winning margin for Tigers on Saturday.

London Irish team to face Newcastle Falcons:

15. James O’Connor*; 14. Topsy Ojo*; 13. Fergus Mulchrone; 12. Eamonn Sheridan; 11. Andrew Fenby ; 10. Shane Geraghty*; 9. Tomás O’Leary*; 1. Matt Parr; 2. Mike Mayhew; 3. Leo Halavatau; 4. George Skivington (Captain); 5. Nic Rouse; 6. Blair Cowan; 7. Gerard Ellis; 8. Ofisa Treviranus*

Replacements: 16. Jimmy Stevens; 17. John Yapp*; 18. Jamie Hagan*; 19. Ian Gough*; 20. Bryn Evans*; 21. Alex Lewington; 22. Myles Dorrian; 23. Darren Allinson


Interesting selection. Really pleased to see Gerard Ellis get his first Premiership start, but gutted that Tom Fowlie isn't in the 23. No Marland Yarde either. I wonder whether we will actually see him in a London Irish jersey again now.

Aw aye ASBO...Exeter giving your local chums Wuss an easy chance to claw us back   

They dont need any help, we're doing a good enough job helping them as it is!

Ozzy,

We could see a clash of the Mayhew brothers.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Aw aye ASBO...Exeter giving your local chums Wuss an easy chance to claw us back   

They dont need any help, we're doing a good enough job helping them as it is!

I hope not, GF, we've got to get that 7th place at a minimum. And if we win tomorrow, you won't need to care about our visit to you in the last game of the season!

Just make sure you put a cricket score on them and ill be happy...  

Saints team up for Sunday's game at Allianz. Strongest line up for a long time, 13 of the first choice 15 by my reckoning including the full first choice back line and back five forwards. Relieved Myler is back after injury and hopefully he's one of those players who doesn't take any time to regain form.

NORTHAMPTON SAINTS TEAM TO PLAY SARACENS
Aviva Premiership Round 19
Allianz Park
Sunday, April 13th, 2014
Kick off 2:00pm
15 Ben FODEN
14 Jamie ELLIOTT
13 George PISI
12 Luther BURRELL
11 George NORTH
10 Stephen MYLER
9 Lee DICKSON
1 Alex WALLER
2 Ross MCMILLAN
3 Salesi MA’AFU
4 Courtney LAWES
5 Christian DAY
6 Calum CLARK
7 Tom WOOD
8 Samu MANOA

Replacements
16 Mike HAYWOOD
17 Ethan WALLER
18 Gareth DENMAN
19 Sam DICKINSON
20 Phil DOWSON
21 Kahn FOTUALI’I
22 Will HOOLEY
23 James WILSON

Saracens team-

Saracens: Wyles; Ashton, Bosch, Barritt, Strettle; Farrell, De Kock; M Vunipola, Brits, Johnston; Borthwick (capt), Botha; Wray, Brown, B Vunipola.
Replacements: George, Barrington, Stevens, Sheriff, Burger, Wigglesworth, Hodgson, Streather.

Had already read that Goode would not be risked after last week but still a strong line up. Surprised to see no Joubert - underrated player in my opinion.

Like the look of that Tigers team. Plenty of carrying options and a bench which could make a massive impact if required. Big game for Balmain who will want to show the coaches he's ready for more first team game time after another solid season as a back up.

Good news also that the wife got tickets so I will be in attendance for this one. Weather should be nice as well. Running rugby in the Welford Rd sunshine.   

Joubert is out for the season

Best possible night from Quins. Maybe this is doable...

The bath glaws ref is destroying this game!